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Default Re: Tracking Table/Schema changes ?Sys<what>? - 07-03-2003 , 07:35 AM






Thanks. I had heard of the RedGate tool at a local
SQLServer user's group meeting. Have you used it? Is it
expensive? We have used a high end general 'diff' tool,
Araxis. That's pretty nice, but requires scripting
everything out to do the compare at a semi smart line by
line compare. Each of these methods requires having a
baseline db to compare to. What I'm really looking for is
change tracking against a specific DB. I am seeing some
things suggesting that the SQLServer dev tools may soon be
more fully integrated with Visual Source Safe. Do you
know, is that part of Yukon?

Thanks,

Glenn Froemming
MCAD


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There is currently no way to do that natively in sql
server other than
constant monitoring with tools like profiler. You can
use a tool from
www.red-gate.com to compare 2 db's and find difference
real easy. There is
also a free tool from www.lumigent.com that does some
tracking of schema
changes.

--

Andrew J. Kelly
SQL Server MVP


"glennf" <gfroemming (AT) primewire (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:032801c340e4$2b5d93e0$a501280a (AT) phx (DOT) gbl...
Probably old news to most of you, but I am new to this
DBA
role. Trying to identify a way, perhaps through the
system tables (sysobjects) to track changes to table
definitions <you know how those developers can try to
sneak stuff in>. I see crdate, and rfdate fields, but
crdate appears to be object creation, not sure if rfdate
ever changes. When changes are made through ALTER type
statements, theses dates do not change for type "U"
objects.

I can track stored proc, User Defined Func changes OK,
just have not been able to locate a LastModified stamp
at
the table level. Any suggestions?

Glenn Froemming
Primewire Inc


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Andrew J. Kelly
 
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Default Re: Tracking Table/Schema changes ?Sys<what>? - 07-03-2003 , 08:13 AM






Yes I use Red-gate all the time and it is an excellent tool for finding the
differences. It does it all visually and then gives you the option to
generate change scripts if you want. It is only a few hundred dollars for a
single user license and for the amount of time it saves it is worth every
penny. I wouldn't count on any tools from Yukon since it is going to be a
while before it is released.

--

Andrew J. Kelly
SQL Server MVP


"glennf" <gfroemming (AT) primewire (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Thanks. I had heard of the RedGate tool at a local
SQLServer user's group meeting. Have you used it? Is it
expensive? We have used a high end general 'diff' tool,
Araxis. That's pretty nice, but requires scripting
everything out to do the compare at a semi smart line by
line compare. Each of these methods requires having a
baseline db to compare to. What I'm really looking for is
change tracking against a specific DB. I am seeing some
things suggesting that the SQLServer dev tools may soon be
more fully integrated with Visual Source Safe. Do you
know, is that part of Yukon?

Thanks,

Glenn Froemming
MCAD


-----Original Message-----
There is currently no way to do that natively in sql
server other than
constant monitoring with tools like profiler. You can
use a tool from
www.red-gate.com to compare 2 db's and find difference
real easy. There is
also a free tool from www.lumigent.com that does some
tracking of schema
changes.

--

Andrew J. Kelly
SQL Server MVP


"glennf" <gfroemming (AT) primewire (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:032801c340e4$2b5d93e0$a501280a (AT) phx (DOT) gbl...
Probably old news to most of you, but I am new to this
DBA
role. Trying to identify a way, perhaps through the
system tables (sysobjects) to track changes to table
definitions <you know how those developers can try to
sneak stuff in>. I see crdate, and rfdate fields, but
crdate appears to be object creation, not sure if rfdate
ever changes. When changes are made through ALTER type
statements, theses dates do not change for type "U"
objects.

I can track stored proc, User Defined Func changes OK,
just have not been able to locate a LastModified stamp
at
the table level. Any suggestions?

Glenn Froemming
Primewire Inc


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Richard Ding
 
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Default Re: Tracking Table/Schema changes ?Sys<what>? - 07-08-2003 , 11:53 AM



Take a look at Lumigent Schema Alert. It is a free software from
www.Lumigent.com.

It does log on all schema changes and can send email alert to a distribution
list.


Richard

"glennf" <gfroemming (AT) primewire (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Probably old news to most of you, but I am new to this DBA
role. Trying to identify a way, perhaps through the
system tables (sysobjects) to track changes to table
definitions <you know how those developers can try to
sneak stuff in>. I see crdate, and rfdate fields, but
crdate appears to be object creation, not sure if rfdate
ever changes. When changes are made through ALTER type
statements, theses dates do not change for type "U"
objects.

I can track stored proc, User Defined Func changes OK,
just have not been able to locate a LastModified stamp at
the table level. Any suggestions?

Glenn Froemming
Primewire Inc



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