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How can I get the Management Studio
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Re: How can I get the Management Studio -
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Hi again, Ekrem, I know there is no such a license SQL Server Tools license =) I know you know that. I was merely trying to convey how I read/interpret that text. It seems we are talking past each other today... ;-) Here's a "seperate" machine if this is the keyword. It's not going to be a SQL Server server; however, a SQL Server Tool is going to be used on it. According to this Q & A, I'll need another SQL Server license because I'll be using a SQL Server Tool on it? No, you would need a *client* license. I.e., the "permission" to access your SQL Server. Vague, I know, but being a layman, I'm using layman's terms and express how I understand it. So, I agree that there is a degree of vagueness in the MS text, probably because the topic per se is a bit strange. Consider below: "any device that has SQL Server tools or technologies installed must have a valid license" First, the "license" they refer vaguely to here is a type of client license. But: One now can think that exactly constitutes a license? Especially when we are talking about per processor licensing. It would basically mean we can buy one per processor SQL Server and install SSMS on all the machines in the world? Or in our company? Perhaps it is time to do some feedback on that web-page (bottom of page)? My experience is that MS are in general very responsive to feedback on web pages and such. -- Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp http://sqlblog.com/blogs/tibor_karaszi "Ekrem Önsoy" <ekrem (AT) compecta (DOT) com> wrote in message news:F560571A-B4F5-4017-B9EA-0E057D91CD03 (AT) microsoft (DOT) com... Tibor, I know there is no such a license SQL Server Tools license =) As it says "any device that has SQL Server tools or technologies installed must have a valid license" in the Q & A, I end up with a question mark: "I have a SQL Server server which has SQL Server database engine and tools installed on it and have a license for that particular SQL Server server (processor or server + CAL whatever), however I want to use the SQL Server tool SSMS on another server in my environment, according to that Q & A, I'm using a SQL Server tool on another device other than that licensed SQL Server server and as it says 'you need a valid license for SQL Server tools' do I need any other SQL Server license for the other unlicensed server which I'd like to install only SSMS?"... This is the point I wonder. Here's a "seperate" machine if this is the keyword. It's not going to be a SQL Server server; however, a SQL Server Tool is going to be used on it. According to this Q & A, I'll need another SQL Server license because I'll be using a SQL Server Tool on it? I think this Q & A could be clearer. Here its link: http://www.microsoft.com/sql/howtobuy/faq.mspx -- Ekrem Önsoy "Tibor Karaszi" <tibor_please.no.email_karaszi (AT) hotmail (DOT) nomail.com> wrote in message news:25C21DFB-21A9-4363-87D8-E689C450B72D (AT) microsoft (DOT) com... Ekrem, I'd say that the key word here is "separate". There's no "SQL Server tools" license you can buy. I.e., if you are licensed to connect to the database instance, you are also licensed to use the tools. At least this is how I read it. :-) -- Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp http://sqlblog.com/blogs/tibor_karaszi "Ekrem Önsoy" <ekrem (AT) compecta (DOT) com> wrote in message news:%23D4hyfKwIHA.4560 (AT) TK2MSFTNGP03 (DOT) phx.gbl... I just want to share something weird with you guys on SQL Server Tools' licensing. Here' s Q & A about licensing of SQL Server Tools: Q. Do I need a separate license to run the SQL Server tools and analysis services? A. No, a separate license is not required. However, any device that has SQL Server tools or technologies installed must have a valid SQL Server license. Even though it says a separate license is not required to run the SQL Server tools, in the second sentence it says any device that has SQL Server tools (SSMS is one of them) will need a SQL Server license. Isn't this a contradiction? Or do I get it wrong somehow? -- Ekrem Önsoy "Russell Fields" <russellfields (AT) nomail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:OE1d0G3vIHA.2188 (AT) TK2MSFTNGP04 (DOT) phx.gbl... Clara, It looks like you may not have selected the "Workstation components, Books Online and Development Tools" when you installed SQL Server. If that is the case, just follow the instructions at http://support.microsoft.com/kb/913967 Of course, on a desktop you can install those tools, which include Management Studio, without installing the SQL Server engine. RLF "clara" <clara (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote in message news:9EEA3E9B-8A08-4451-8E66-BFA8BD662FB2 (AT) microsoft (DOT) com... Hi all, I don't know why there is no Management Studio after I install SQL Server 2005 Developer Edition. Is something wrong during the installation? If not, where can I get the Management Studio? Clara -- thank you so much for your help |
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Hi again, Ekrem, I know there is no such a license SQL Server Tools license =) I know you know that. I was merely trying to convey how I read/interpret that text. It seems we are talking past each other today... ;-) Here's a "seperate" machine if this is the keyword. It's not going to be a SQL Server server; however, a SQL Server Tool is going to be used on it. According to this Q & A, I'll need another SQL Server license because I'll be using a SQL Server Tool on it? No, you would need a *client* license. I.e., the "permission" to access your SQL Server. Vague, I know, but being a layman, I'm using layman's terms and express how I understand it. So, I agree that there is a degree of vagueness in the MS text, probably because the topic per se is a bit strange. Consider below: "any device that has SQL Server tools or technologies installed must have a valid license" First, the "license" they refer vaguely to here is a type of client license. But: One now can think that exactly constitutes a license? Especially when we are talking about per processor licensing. It would basically mean we can buy one per processor SQL Server and install SSMS on all the machines in the world? Or in our company? Perhaps it is time to do some feedback on that web-page (bottom of page)? My experience is that MS are in general very responsive to feedback on web pages and such. -- Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp http://sqlblog.com/blogs/tibor_karaszi "Ekrem Önsoy" <ekrem (AT) compecta (DOT) com> wrote in message news:F560571A-B4F5-4017-B9EA-0E057D91CD03 (AT) microsoft (DOT) com... Tibor, I know there is no such a license SQL Server Tools license =) As it says "any device that has SQL Server tools or technologies installed must have a valid license" in the Q & A, I end up with a question mark: "I have a SQL Server server which has SQL Server database engine and tools installed on it and have a license for that particular SQL Server server (processor or server + CAL whatever), however I want to use the SQL Server tool SSMS on another server in my environment, according to that Q & A, I'm using a SQL Server tool on another device other than that licensed SQL Server server and as it says 'you need a valid license for SQL Server tools' do I need any other SQL Server license for the other unlicensed server which I'd like to install only SSMS?"... This is the point I wonder. Here's a "seperate" machine if this is the keyword. It's not going to be a SQL Server server; however, a SQL Server Tool is going to be used on it. According to this Q & A, I'll need another SQL Server license because I'll be using a SQL Server Tool on it? I think this Q & A could be clearer. Here its link: http://www.microsoft.com/sql/howtobuy/faq.mspx -- Ekrem Önsoy "Tibor Karaszi" <tibor_please.no.email_karaszi (AT) hotmail (DOT) nomail.com> wrote in message news:25C21DFB-21A9-4363-87D8-E689C450B72D (AT) microsoft (DOT) com... Ekrem, I'd say that the key word here is "separate". There's no "SQL Server tools" license you can buy. I.e., if you are licensed to connect to the database instance, you are also licensed to use the tools. At least this is how I read it. :-) -- Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp http://sqlblog.com/blogs/tibor_karaszi "Ekrem Önsoy" <ekrem (AT) compecta (DOT) com> wrote in message news:%23D4hyfKwIHA.4560 (AT) TK2MSFTNGP03 (DOT) phx.gbl... I just want to share something weird with you guys on SQL Server Tools' licensing. Here' s Q & A about licensing of SQL Server Tools: Q. Do I need a separate license to run the SQL Server tools and analysis services? A. No, a separate license is not required. However, any device that has SQL Server tools or technologies installed must have a valid SQL Server license. Even though it says a separate license is not required to run the SQL Server tools, in the second sentence it says any device that has SQL Server tools (SSMS is one of them) will need a SQL Server license. Isn't this a contradiction? Or do I get it wrong somehow? -- Ekrem Önsoy "Russell Fields" <russellfields (AT) nomail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:OE1d0G3vIHA.2188 (AT) TK2MSFTNGP04 (DOT) phx.gbl... Clara, It looks like you may not have selected the "Workstation components, Books Online and Development Tools" when you installed SQL Server. If that is the case, just follow the instructions at http://support.microsoft.com/kb/913967 Of course, on a desktop you can install those tools, which include Management Studio, without installing the SQL Server engine. RLF "clara" <clara (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote in message news:9EEA3E9B-8A08-4451-8E66-BFA8BD662FB2 (AT) microsoft (DOT) com... Hi all, I don't know why there is no Management Studio after I install SQL Server 2005 Developer Edition. Is something wrong during the installation? If not, where can I get the Management Studio? Clara -- thank you so much for your help |
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Hi again, Ekrem, I know there is no such a license SQL Server Tools license =) I know you know that. I was merely trying to convey how I read/interpret that text. It seems we are talking past each other today... ;-) Here's a "seperate" machine if this is the keyword. It's not going to be a SQL Server server; however, a SQL Server Tool is going to be used on it. According to this Q & A, I'll need another SQL Server license because I'll be using a SQL Server Tool on it? No, you would need a *client* license. I.e., the "permission" to access your SQL Server. Vague, I know, but being a layman, I'm using layman's terms and express how I understand it. So, I agree that there is a degree of vagueness in the MS text, probably because the topic per se is a bit strange. Consider below: "any device that has SQL Server tools or technologies installed must have a valid license" First, the "license" they refer vaguely to here is a type of client license. But: One now can think that exactly constitutes a license? Especially when we are talking about per processor licensing. It would basically mean we can buy one per processor SQL Server and install SSMS on all the machines in the world? Or in our company? Perhaps it is time to do some feedback on that web-page (bottom of page)? My experience is that MS are in general very responsive to feedback on web pages and such. -- Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp http://sqlblog.com/blogs/tibor_karaszi "Ekrem Önsoy" <ekrem (AT) compecta (DOT) com> wrote in message news:F560571A-B4F5-4017-B9EA-0E057D91CD03 (AT) microsoft (DOT) com... Tibor, I know there is no such a license SQL Server Tools license =) As it says "any device that has SQL Server tools or technologies installed must have a valid license" in the Q & A, I end up with a question mark: "I have a SQL Server server which has SQL Server database engine and tools installed on it and have a license for that particular SQL Server server (processor or server + CAL whatever), however I want to use the SQL Server tool SSMS on another server in my environment, according to that Q & A, I'm using a SQL Server tool on another device other than that licensed SQL Server server and as it says 'you need a valid license for SQL Server tools' do I need any other SQL Server license for the other unlicensed server which I'd like to install only SSMS?"... This is the point I wonder. Here's a "seperate" machine if this is the keyword. It's not going to be a SQL Server server; however, a SQL Server Tool is going to be used on it. According to this Q & A, I'll need another SQL Server license because I'll be using a SQL Server Tool on it? I think this Q & A could be clearer. Here its link: http://www.microsoft.com/sql/howtobuy/faq.mspx -- Ekrem Önsoy "Tibor Karaszi" <tibor_please.no.email_karaszi (AT) hotmail (DOT) nomail.com> wrote in message news:25C21DFB-21A9-4363-87D8-E689C450B72D (AT) microsoft (DOT) com... Ekrem, I'd say that the key word here is "separate". There's no "SQL Server tools" license you can buy. I.e., if you are licensed to connect to the database instance, you are also licensed to use the tools. At least this is how I read it. :-) -- Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp http://sqlblog.com/blogs/tibor_karaszi "Ekrem Önsoy" <ekrem (AT) compecta (DOT) com> wrote in message news:%23D4hyfKwIHA.4560 (AT) TK2MSFTNGP03 (DOT) phx.gbl... I just want to share something weird with you guys on SQL Server Tools' licensing. Here' s Q & A about licensing of SQL Server Tools: Q. Do I need a separate license to run the SQL Server tools and analysis services? A. No, a separate license is not required. However, any device that has SQL Server tools or technologies installed must have a valid SQL Server license. Even though it says a separate license is not required to run the SQL Server tools, in the second sentence it says any device that has SQL Server tools (SSMS is one of them) will need a SQL Server license. Isn't this a contradiction? Or do I get it wrong somehow? -- Ekrem Önsoy "Russell Fields" <russellfields (AT) nomail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:OE1d0G3vIHA.2188 (AT) TK2MSFTNGP04 (DOT) phx.gbl... Clara, It looks like you may not have selected the "Workstation components, Books Online and Development Tools" when you installed SQL Server. If that is the case, just follow the instructions at http://support.microsoft.com/kb/913967 Of course, on a desktop you can install those tools, which include Management Studio, without installing the SQL Server engine. RLF "clara" <clara (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote in message news:9EEA3E9B-8A08-4451-8E66-BFA8BD662FB2 (AT) microsoft (DOT) com... Hi all, I don't know why there is no Management Studio after I install SQL Server 2005 Developer Edition. Is something wrong during the installation? If not, where can I get the Management Studio? Clara -- thank you so much for your help |
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Hi again, Ekrem, I know there is no such a license SQL Server Tools license =) I know you know that. I was merely trying to convey how I read/interpret that text. It seems we are talking past each other today... ;-) Here's a "seperate" machine if this is the keyword. It's not going to be a SQL Server server; however, a SQL Server Tool is going to be used on it. According to this Q & A, I'll need another SQL Server license because I'll be using a SQL Server Tool on it? No, you would need a *client* license. I.e., the "permission" to access your SQL Server. Vague, I know, but being a layman, I'm using layman's terms and express how I understand it. So, I agree that there is a degree of vagueness in the MS text, probably because the topic per se is a bit strange. Consider below: "any device that has SQL Server tools or technologies installed must have a valid license" First, the "license" they refer vaguely to here is a type of client license. But: One now can think that exactly constitutes a license? Especially when we are talking about per processor licensing. It would basically mean we can buy one per processor SQL Server and install SSMS on all the machines in the world? Or in our company? Perhaps it is time to do some feedback on that web-page (bottom of page)? My experience is that MS are in general very responsive to feedback on web pages and such. -- Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp http://sqlblog.com/blogs/tibor_karaszi "Ekrem Önsoy" <ekrem (AT) compecta (DOT) com> wrote in message news:F560571A-B4F5-4017-B9EA-0E057D91CD03 (AT) microsoft (DOT) com... Tibor, I know there is no such a license SQL Server Tools license =) As it says "any device that has SQL Server tools or technologies installed must have a valid license" in the Q & A, I end up with a question mark: "I have a SQL Server server which has SQL Server database engine and tools installed on it and have a license for that particular SQL Server server (processor or server + CAL whatever), however I want to use the SQL Server tool SSMS on another server in my environment, according to that Q & A, I'm using a SQL Server tool on another device other than that licensed SQL Server server and as it says 'you need a valid license for SQL Server tools' do I need any other SQL Server license for the other unlicensed server which I'd like to install only SSMS?"... This is the point I wonder. Here's a "seperate" machine if this is the keyword. It's not going to be a SQL Server server; however, a SQL Server Tool is going to be used on it. According to this Q & A, I'll need another SQL Server license because I'll be using a SQL Server Tool on it? I think this Q & A could be clearer. Here its link: http://www.microsoft.com/sql/howtobuy/faq.mspx -- Ekrem Önsoy "Tibor Karaszi" <tibor_please.no.email_karaszi (AT) hotmail (DOT) nomail.com> wrote in message news:25C21DFB-21A9-4363-87D8-E689C450B72D (AT) microsoft (DOT) com... Ekrem, I'd say that the key word here is "separate". There's no "SQL Server tools" license you can buy. I.e., if you are licensed to connect to the database instance, you are also licensed to use the tools. At least this is how I read it. :-) -- Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp http://sqlblog.com/blogs/tibor_karaszi "Ekrem Önsoy" <ekrem (AT) compecta (DOT) com> wrote in message news:%23D4hyfKwIHA.4560 (AT) TK2MSFTNGP03 (DOT) phx.gbl... I just want to share something weird with you guys on SQL Server Tools' licensing. Here' s Q & A about licensing of SQL Server Tools: Q. Do I need a separate license to run the SQL Server tools and analysis services? A. No, a separate license is not required. However, any device that has SQL Server tools or technologies installed must have a valid SQL Server license. Even though it says a separate license is not required to run the SQL Server tools, in the second sentence it says any device that has SQL Server tools (SSMS is one of them) will need a SQL Server license. Isn't this a contradiction? Or do I get it wrong somehow? -- Ekrem Önsoy "Russell Fields" <russellfields (AT) nomail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:OE1d0G3vIHA.2188 (AT) TK2MSFTNGP04 (DOT) phx.gbl... Clara, It looks like you may not have selected the "Workstation components, Books Online and Development Tools" when you installed SQL Server. If that is the case, just follow the instructions at http://support.microsoft.com/kb/913967 Of course, on a desktop you can install those tools, which include Management Studio, without installing the SQL Server engine. RLF "clara" <clara (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote in message news:9EEA3E9B-8A08-4451-8E66-BFA8BD662FB2 (AT) microsoft (DOT) com... Hi all, I don't know why there is no Management Studio after I install SQL Server 2005 Developer Edition. Is something wrong during the installation? If not, where can I get the Management Studio? Clara -- thank you so much for your help |
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Hi again, Ekrem, I know there is no such a license SQL Server Tools license =) I know you know that. I was merely trying to convey how I read/interpret that text. It seems we are talking past each other today... ;-) Here's a "seperate" machine if this is the keyword. It's not going to be a SQL Server server; however, a SQL Server Tool is going to be used on it. According to this Q & A, I'll need another SQL Server license because I'll be using a SQL Server Tool on it? No, you would need a *client* license. I.e., the "permission" to access your SQL Server. Vague, I know, but being a layman, I'm using layman's terms and express how I understand it. So, I agree that there is a degree of vagueness in the MS text, probably because the topic per se is a bit strange. Consider below: "any device that has SQL Server tools or technologies installed must have a valid license" First, the "license" they refer vaguely to here is a type of client license. But: One now can think that exactly constitutes a license? Especially when we are talking about per processor licensing. It would basically mean we can buy one per processor SQL Server and install SSMS on all the machines in the world? Or in our company? Perhaps it is time to do some feedback on that web-page (bottom of page)? My experience is that MS are in general very responsive to feedback on web pages and such. -- Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp http://sqlblog.com/blogs/tibor_karaszi "Ekrem Önsoy" <ekrem (AT) compecta (DOT) com> wrote in message news:F560571A-B4F5-4017-B9EA-0E057D91CD03 (AT) microsoft (DOT) com... Tibor, I know there is no such a license SQL Server Tools license =) As it says "any device that has SQL Server tools or technologies installed must have a valid license" in the Q & A, I end up with a question mark: "I have a SQL Server server which has SQL Server database engine and tools installed on it and have a license for that particular SQL Server server (processor or server + CAL whatever), however I want to use the SQL Server tool SSMS on another server in my environment, according to that Q & A, I'm using a SQL Server tool on another device other than that licensed SQL Server server and as it says 'you need a valid license for SQL Server tools' do I need any other SQL Server license for the other unlicensed server which I'd like to install only SSMS?"... This is the point I wonder. Here's a "seperate" machine if this is the keyword. It's not going to be a SQL Server server; however, a SQL Server Tool is going to be used on it. According to this Q & A, I'll need another SQL Server license because I'll be using a SQL Server Tool on it? I think this Q & A could be clearer. Here its link: http://www.microsoft.com/sql/howtobuy/faq.mspx -- Ekrem Önsoy "Tibor Karaszi" <tibor_please.no.email_karaszi (AT) hotmail (DOT) nomail.com> wrote in message news:25C21DFB-21A9-4363-87D8-E689C450B72D (AT) microsoft (DOT) com... Ekrem, I'd say that the key word here is "separate". There's no "SQL Server tools" license you can buy. I.e., if you are licensed to connect to the database instance, you are also licensed to use the tools. At least this is how I read it. :-) -- Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp http://sqlblog.com/blogs/tibor_karaszi "Ekrem Önsoy" <ekrem (AT) compecta (DOT) com> wrote in message news:%23D4hyfKwIHA.4560 (AT) TK2MSFTNGP03 (DOT) phx.gbl... I just want to share something weird with you guys on SQL Server Tools' licensing. Here' s Q & A about licensing of SQL Server Tools: Q. Do I need a separate license to run the SQL Server tools and analysis services? A. No, a separate license is not required. However, any device that has SQL Server tools or technologies installed must have a valid SQL Server license. Even though it says a separate license is not required to run the SQL Server tools, in the second sentence it says any device that has SQL Server tools (SSMS is one of them) will need a SQL Server license. Isn't this a contradiction? Or do I get it wrong somehow? -- Ekrem Önsoy "Russell Fields" <russellfields (AT) nomail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:OE1d0G3vIHA.2188 (AT) TK2MSFTNGP04 (DOT) phx.gbl... Clara, It looks like you may not have selected the "Workstation components, Books Online and Development Tools" when you installed SQL Server. If that is the case, just follow the instructions at http://support.microsoft.com/kb/913967 Of course, on a desktop you can install those tools, which include Management Studio, without installing the SQL Server engine. RLF "clara" <clara (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote in message news:9EEA3E9B-8A08-4451-8E66-BFA8BD662FB2 (AT) microsoft (DOT) com... Hi all, I don't know why there is no Management Studio after I install SQL Server 2005 Developer Edition. Is something wrong during the installation? If not, where can I get the Management Studio? Clara -- thank you so much for your help |
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