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Default data mining accuracy chart won't let me select mining model based onTime Series Algortihm - 05-23-2008 , 06:48 PM






Hello,
I'm not sure if I'm posting to the correct group, but I don't see
a microsoft group explicitly for data minig and I would think SSAS
falls under the category of a "tool" for SQL server.

I have a mining structure set up with the intent of predicting
sales by product category per month. I have structured the data such
that I have the input, predictive, key and keytime values supplied. I
have also set the periodicity hint to 12. The model processes the
training data without issue. However, when I want to analyze the
accuracy of that data using the test data (a random set containing 10%
of the original rows), I am not able to select my Time Series mining
model on the "Select Predictable mining model columns to show in the
lift chart" section of the "Column Mapping" tab in the "Mining
Accuracy Chart" tab.

When I attempt to select the mining model, I get this message:

"A mining accuracy chart cannot be displayed for a mining model using
this algorithm type."

Which I take to mean you can't have a lift chart for a time series
algorithm. However, this seems ridiculous. What good is the algorithm,
if I can't verify the accuracy of the results? I have googled this
message to no avail. Does anyone have any idea why this would not
work?

Thanks,
Dave

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Default Re: data mining accuracy chart won't let me select mining model basedon Time Series Algortihm - 05-23-2008 , 06:53 PM






On May 23, 4:48*pm, drolaw <dr... (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote:
Quote:
Hello,
* * I'm not sure if I'm posting to the correct group, but I don't see
a microsoft group explicitly for data minig and I would think SSAS
falls under the category of a "tool" for SQL server.

* * I have a mining structure set up with the intent of predicting
sales by product category per month. I have structured the data such
that I have the input, predictive, key and keytime values supplied. I
have also set the periodicity hint to 12. The model processes the
training data without issue. However, when I want to analyze the
accuracy of that data using the test data (a random set containing 10%
of the original rows), I am not able to select my Time Series mining
model on the "Select Predictable mining model columns to show in the
lift chart" section of the "Column Mapping" tab in the "Mining
Accuracy Chart" tab.

* * When I attempt to select the mining model, I get this message:

"A mining accuracy chart cannot be displayed for a mining model using
this algorithm type."

* * Which I take to mean you can't have a lift chart for a time series
algorithm. However, this seems ridiculous. What good is the algorithm,
if I can't verify the accuracy of the results? I have googled this
message to no avail. Does anyone have any idea why this would not
work?

Thanks,
Dave
OK, never mind, it turns out that you can't use the mining accuracy
chart with this algorithm.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...(SQL.100).aspx


From the link above:
"Note The Mining Accuracy Chart tab cannot be used with time series
models or with models that have continuous predictable attributes."





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Default Re: data mining accuracy chart won't let me select mining model basedon Time Series Algortihm - 05-23-2008 , 06:53 PM



On May 23, 4:48*pm, drolaw <dr... (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote:
Quote:
Hello,
* * I'm not sure if I'm posting to the correct group, but I don't see
a microsoft group explicitly for data minig and I would think SSAS
falls under the category of a "tool" for SQL server.

* * I have a mining structure set up with the intent of predicting
sales by product category per month. I have structured the data such
that I have the input, predictive, key and keytime values supplied. I
have also set the periodicity hint to 12. The model processes the
training data without issue. However, when I want to analyze the
accuracy of that data using the test data (a random set containing 10%
of the original rows), I am not able to select my Time Series mining
model on the "Select Predictable mining model columns to show in the
lift chart" section of the "Column Mapping" tab in the "Mining
Accuracy Chart" tab.

* * When I attempt to select the mining model, I get this message:

"A mining accuracy chart cannot be displayed for a mining model using
this algorithm type."

* * Which I take to mean you can't have a lift chart for a time series
algorithm. However, this seems ridiculous. What good is the algorithm,
if I can't verify the accuracy of the results? I have googled this
message to no avail. Does anyone have any idea why this would not
work?

Thanks,
Dave
OK, never mind, it turns out that you can't use the mining accuracy
chart with this algorithm.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...(SQL.100).aspx


From the link above:
"Note The Mining Accuracy Chart tab cannot be used with time series
models or with models that have continuous predictable attributes."





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Default Re: data mining accuracy chart won't let me select mining model basedon Time Series Algortihm - 05-23-2008 , 06:53 PM



On May 23, 4:48*pm, drolaw <dr... (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote:
Quote:
Hello,
* * I'm not sure if I'm posting to the correct group, but I don't see
a microsoft group explicitly for data minig and I would think SSAS
falls under the category of a "tool" for SQL server.

* * I have a mining structure set up with the intent of predicting
sales by product category per month. I have structured the data such
that I have the input, predictive, key and keytime values supplied. I
have also set the periodicity hint to 12. The model processes the
training data without issue. However, when I want to analyze the
accuracy of that data using the test data (a random set containing 10%
of the original rows), I am not able to select my Time Series mining
model on the "Select Predictable mining model columns to show in the
lift chart" section of the "Column Mapping" tab in the "Mining
Accuracy Chart" tab.

* * When I attempt to select the mining model, I get this message:

"A mining accuracy chart cannot be displayed for a mining model using
this algorithm type."

* * Which I take to mean you can't have a lift chart for a time series
algorithm. However, this seems ridiculous. What good is the algorithm,
if I can't verify the accuracy of the results? I have googled this
message to no avail. Does anyone have any idea why this would not
work?

Thanks,
Dave
OK, never mind, it turns out that you can't use the mining accuracy
chart with this algorithm.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...(SQL.100).aspx


From the link above:
"Note The Mining Accuracy Chart tab cannot be used with time series
models or with models that have continuous predictable attributes."





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drolaw
 
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Default Re: data mining accuracy chart won't let me select mining model basedon Time Series Algortihm - 05-23-2008 , 06:53 PM



On May 23, 4:48*pm, drolaw <dr... (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote:
Quote:
Hello,
* * I'm not sure if I'm posting to the correct group, but I don't see
a microsoft group explicitly for data minig and I would think SSAS
falls under the category of a "tool" for SQL server.

* * I have a mining structure set up with the intent of predicting
sales by product category per month. I have structured the data such
that I have the input, predictive, key and keytime values supplied. I
have also set the periodicity hint to 12. The model processes the
training data without issue. However, when I want to analyze the
accuracy of that data using the test data (a random set containing 10%
of the original rows), I am not able to select my Time Series mining
model on the "Select Predictable mining model columns to show in the
lift chart" section of the "Column Mapping" tab in the "Mining
Accuracy Chart" tab.

* * When I attempt to select the mining model, I get this message:

"A mining accuracy chart cannot be displayed for a mining model using
this algorithm type."

* * Which I take to mean you can't have a lift chart for a time series
algorithm. However, this seems ridiculous. What good is the algorithm,
if I can't verify the accuracy of the results? I have googled this
message to no avail. Does anyone have any idea why this would not
work?

Thanks,
Dave
OK, never mind, it turns out that you can't use the mining accuracy
chart with this algorithm.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...(SQL.100).aspx


From the link above:
"Note The Mining Accuracy Chart tab cannot be used with time series
models or with models that have continuous predictable attributes."





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drolaw
 
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Default Re: data mining accuracy chart won't let me select mining model basedon Time Series Algortihm - 05-23-2008 , 06:53 PM



On May 23, 4:48*pm, drolaw <dr... (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote:
Quote:
Hello,
* * I'm not sure if I'm posting to the correct group, but I don't see
a microsoft group explicitly for data minig and I would think SSAS
falls under the category of a "tool" for SQL server.

* * I have a mining structure set up with the intent of predicting
sales by product category per month. I have structured the data such
that I have the input, predictive, key and keytime values supplied. I
have also set the periodicity hint to 12. The model processes the
training data without issue. However, when I want to analyze the
accuracy of that data using the test data (a random set containing 10%
of the original rows), I am not able to select my Time Series mining
model on the "Select Predictable mining model columns to show in the
lift chart" section of the "Column Mapping" tab in the "Mining
Accuracy Chart" tab.

* * When I attempt to select the mining model, I get this message:

"A mining accuracy chart cannot be displayed for a mining model using
this algorithm type."

* * Which I take to mean you can't have a lift chart for a time series
algorithm. However, this seems ridiculous. What good is the algorithm,
if I can't verify the accuracy of the results? I have googled this
message to no avail. Does anyone have any idea why this would not
work?

Thanks,
Dave
OK, never mind, it turns out that you can't use the mining accuracy
chart with this algorithm.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...(SQL.100).aspx


From the link above:
"Note The Mining Accuracy Chart tab cannot be used with time series
models or with models that have continuous predictable attributes."





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drolaw
 
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Default Re: data mining accuracy chart won't let me select mining model basedon Time Series Algortihm - 05-23-2008 , 06:53 PM



On May 23, 4:48*pm, drolaw <dr... (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote:
Quote:
Hello,
* * I'm not sure if I'm posting to the correct group, but I don't see
a microsoft group explicitly for data minig and I would think SSAS
falls under the category of a "tool" for SQL server.

* * I have a mining structure set up with the intent of predicting
sales by product category per month. I have structured the data such
that I have the input, predictive, key and keytime values supplied. I
have also set the periodicity hint to 12. The model processes the
training data without issue. However, when I want to analyze the
accuracy of that data using the test data (a random set containing 10%
of the original rows), I am not able to select my Time Series mining
model on the "Select Predictable mining model columns to show in the
lift chart" section of the "Column Mapping" tab in the "Mining
Accuracy Chart" tab.

* * When I attempt to select the mining model, I get this message:

"A mining accuracy chart cannot be displayed for a mining model using
this algorithm type."

* * Which I take to mean you can't have a lift chart for a time series
algorithm. However, this seems ridiculous. What good is the algorithm,
if I can't verify the accuracy of the results? I have googled this
message to no avail. Does anyone have any idea why this would not
work?

Thanks,
Dave
OK, never mind, it turns out that you can't use the mining accuracy
chart with this algorithm.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...(SQL.100).aspx


From the link above:
"Note The Mining Accuracy Chart tab cannot be used with time series
models or with models that have continuous predictable attributes."





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drolaw
 
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Default Re: data mining accuracy chart won't let me select mining model basedon Time Series Algortihm - 05-23-2008 , 06:53 PM



On May 23, 4:48*pm, drolaw <dr... (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote:
Quote:
Hello,
* * I'm not sure if I'm posting to the correct group, but I don't see
a microsoft group explicitly for data minig and I would think SSAS
falls under the category of a "tool" for SQL server.

* * I have a mining structure set up with the intent of predicting
sales by product category per month. I have structured the data such
that I have the input, predictive, key and keytime values supplied. I
have also set the periodicity hint to 12. The model processes the
training data without issue. However, when I want to analyze the
accuracy of that data using the test data (a random set containing 10%
of the original rows), I am not able to select my Time Series mining
model on the "Select Predictable mining model columns to show in the
lift chart" section of the "Column Mapping" tab in the "Mining
Accuracy Chart" tab.

* * When I attempt to select the mining model, I get this message:

"A mining accuracy chart cannot be displayed for a mining model using
this algorithm type."

* * Which I take to mean you can't have a lift chart for a time series
algorithm. However, this seems ridiculous. What good is the algorithm,
if I can't verify the accuracy of the results? I have googled this
message to no avail. Does anyone have any idea why this would not
work?

Thanks,
Dave
OK, never mind, it turns out that you can't use the mining accuracy
chart with this algorithm.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...(SQL.100).aspx


From the link above:
"Note The Mining Accuracy Chart tab cannot be used with time series
models or with models that have continuous predictable attributes."





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drolaw
 
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Default Re: data mining accuracy chart won't let me select mining model basedon Time Series Algortihm - 05-23-2008 , 06:53 PM



On May 23, 4:48*pm, drolaw <dr... (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote:
Quote:
Hello,
* * I'm not sure if I'm posting to the correct group, but I don't see
a microsoft group explicitly for data minig and I would think SSAS
falls under the category of a "tool" for SQL server.

* * I have a mining structure set up with the intent of predicting
sales by product category per month. I have structured the data such
that I have the input, predictive, key and keytime values supplied. I
have also set the periodicity hint to 12. The model processes the
training data without issue. However, when I want to analyze the
accuracy of that data using the test data (a random set containing 10%
of the original rows), I am not able to select my Time Series mining
model on the "Select Predictable mining model columns to show in the
lift chart" section of the "Column Mapping" tab in the "Mining
Accuracy Chart" tab.

* * When I attempt to select the mining model, I get this message:

"A mining accuracy chart cannot be displayed for a mining model using
this algorithm type."

* * Which I take to mean you can't have a lift chart for a time series
algorithm. However, this seems ridiculous. What good is the algorithm,
if I can't verify the accuracy of the results? I have googled this
message to no avail. Does anyone have any idea why this would not
work?

Thanks,
Dave
OK, never mind, it turns out that you can't use the mining accuracy
chart with this algorithm.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...(SQL.100).aspx


From the link above:
"Note The Mining Accuracy Chart tab cannot be used with time series
models or with models that have continuous predictable attributes."





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Default Re: data mining accuracy chart won't let me select mining model basedon Time Series Algortihm - 05-23-2008 , 06:53 PM



On May 23, 4:48*pm, drolaw <dr... (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote:
Quote:
Hello,
* * I'm not sure if I'm posting to the correct group, but I don't see
a microsoft group explicitly for data minig and I would think SSAS
falls under the category of a "tool" for SQL server.

* * I have a mining structure set up with the intent of predicting
sales by product category per month. I have structured the data such
that I have the input, predictive, key and keytime values supplied. I
have also set the periodicity hint to 12. The model processes the
training data without issue. However, when I want to analyze the
accuracy of that data using the test data (a random set containing 10%
of the original rows), I am not able to select my Time Series mining
model on the "Select Predictable mining model columns to show in the
lift chart" section of the "Column Mapping" tab in the "Mining
Accuracy Chart" tab.

* * When I attempt to select the mining model, I get this message:

"A mining accuracy chart cannot be displayed for a mining model using
this algorithm type."

* * Which I take to mean you can't have a lift chart for a time series
algorithm. However, this seems ridiculous. What good is the algorithm,
if I can't verify the accuracy of the results? I have googled this
message to no avail. Does anyone have any idea why this would not
work?

Thanks,
Dave
OK, never mind, it turns out that you can't use the mining accuracy
chart with this algorithm.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...(SQL.100).aspx


From the link above:
"Note The Mining Accuracy Chart tab cannot be used with time series
models or with models that have continuous predictable attributes."





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