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Is using the Cube wizard in SSAS where it is decided to use UDM - or where? Can't really find any tutorials on using UDM - just many discussions about how great it is if/when it can be used. |
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Don't qujite understand your question. In SQL BOL, under SQL Server Analysis Service, you can find "Unified Dimensional Model". Does that help? If not, please let us know what we can do to improve it. There's also an MSDN article by Paul Sanders talking about UDM here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...IntrotoUDM.asp HTH, Chu Joe wrote: Is using the Cube wizard in SSAS where it is decided to use UDM - or where? Can't really find any tutorials on using UDM - just many discussions about how great it is if/when it can be used. |
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Yes - I have seen these articles. My question goes how to implement it. The adventure works tutorials have you point to AdventureWorksDW - where the Fact and Dimension tables are already created. Isn't the purpose of UDM to create Fact and Dimension tables via a connection with an OLTP (or other) system? So my question is "how can I practice say using AdventureWorks OLTP DB and by using UDM methodology create a cube?" "Chu Xu (MSFT)" <iloveseahawks (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:1160545045.355669.147160 (AT) m73g2000cwd (DOT) googlegroups.com... Don't qujite understand your question. In SQL BOL, under SQL Server Analysis Service, you can find "Unified Dimensional Model". Does that help? If not, please let us know what we can do to improve it. There's also an MSDN article by Paul Sanders talking about UDM here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...IntrotoUDM.asp HTH, Chu Joe wrote: Is using the Cube wizard in SSAS where it is decided to use UDM - or where? Can't really find any tutorials on using UDM - just many discussions about how great it is if/when it can be used. |
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SSAS is not designed to be used in front of an OLTP database, but is more powerfull against datamarts and datawarehouse databases. Like the adventure works sample. You have the OLTP database, the SSIS packages to convert this database into datamarts (DW database) and finally there is the SSAS cubes. If your source database use a simple design, maybe you can create views on it and then use these views in SSAS to create your cubes. This option is good for realtime scenario too. But due to the impact on the source DB system, its not a recommanded option. Using a DW or Datamart allow you to have a better control on what you do with your data. You can transform data, synchronize multiple sources, do some cleansing and isolate the access from the OLTP database, so the impact for the end user is small. Standard transformations are: creating slow changing dimensions; adding business rules; grouping members (like creating some groups of products for reporting purpose not existing in the source OLTP)... "Joe" <hortoristic@gmail dot com> wrote in message news:uJay2tW7GHA.4404 (AT) TK2MSFTNGP04 (DOT) phx.gbl... Yes - I have seen these articles. My question goes how to implement it. The adventure works tutorials have you point to AdventureWorksDW - where the Fact and Dimension tables are already created. Isn't the purpose of UDM to create Fact and Dimension tables via a connection with an OLTP (or other) system? So my question is "how can I practice say using AdventureWorks OLTP DB and by using UDM methodology create a cube?" "Chu Xu (MSFT)" <iloveseahawks (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:1160545045.355669.147160 (AT) m73g2000cwd (DOT) googlegroups.com... Don't qujite understand your question. In SQL BOL, under SQL Server Analysis Service, you can find "Unified Dimensional Model". Does that help? If not, please let us know what we can do to improve it. There's also an MSDN article by Paul Sanders talking about UDM here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...IntrotoUDM.asp HTH, Chu Joe wrote: Is using the Cube wizard in SSAS where it is decided to use UDM - or where? Can't really find any tutorials on using UDM - just many discussions about how great it is if/when it can be used. |
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I still really appreciate everyones comments - but I'm still getting reasons why NOT to use UDM - not how to use it or implement it. I understand using the typical data mart is still best sometimes but still want to try UDM. "Jeje" <willgart (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:%233RXBxa7GHA.1256 (AT) TK2MSFTNGP04 (DOT) phx.gbl... SSAS is not designed to be used in front of an OLTP database, but is more powerfull against datamarts and datawarehouse databases. Like the adventure works sample. You have the OLTP database, the SSIS packages to convert this database into datamarts (DW database) and finally there is the SSAS cubes. If your source database use a simple design, maybe you can create views on it and then use these views in SSAS to create your cubes. This option is good for realtime scenario too. But due to the impact on the source DB system, its not a recommanded option. Using a DW or Datamart allow you to have a better control on what you do with your data. You can transform data, synchronize multiple sources, do some cleansing and isolate the access from the OLTP database, so the impact for the end user is small. Standard transformations are: creating slow changing dimensions; adding business rules; grouping members (like creating some groups of products for reporting purpose not existing in the source OLTP)... "Joe" <hortoristic@gmail dot com> wrote in message news:uJay2tW7GHA.4404 (AT) TK2MSFTNGP04 (DOT) phx.gbl... Yes - I have seen these articles. My question goes how to implement it. The adventure works tutorials have you point to AdventureWorksDW - where the Fact and Dimension tables are already created. Isn't the purpose of UDM to create Fact and Dimension tables via a connection with an OLTP (or other) system? So my question is "how can I practice say using AdventureWorks OLTP DB and by using UDM methodology create a cube?" "Chu Xu (MSFT)" <iloveseahawks (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:1160545045.355669.147160 (AT) m73g2000cwd (DOT) googlegroups.com... Don't qujite understand your question. In SQL BOL, under SQL Server Analysis Service, you can find "Unified Dimensional Model". Does that help? If not, please let us know what we can do to improve it. There's also an MSDN article by Paul Sanders talking about UDM here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...IntrotoUDM.asp HTH, Chu Joe wrote: Is using the Cube wizard in SSAS where it is decided to use UDM - or where? Can't really find any tutorials on using UDM - just many discussions about how great it is if/when it can be used. |
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