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Default Processing an OLAP database on a 64-bit server - 10-05-2005 , 01:52 PM






We are currently testing AS2K on a 64-bit 4 CPU Win2003 machine with 16GB of
RAM. A complete process of one of our databases takes 140 minutes almost
identical to the time taken on the 32-bit production server. An incremental
update of the database takes 45 minutes on the 64 bit machine compared to 23
minutes on the 32-bit production server. The (32-bit) machine that launches
the incremental process on the 64-bit machine is at a remote site connected
by a fast pipe. We have turned off logging of the OLAP process.

Any ideas why an incremental OLAP database update should be slower on a
64-bit server than a 32-bit server when a complete process takes the same
time?

TIA
P Taylor

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Default Re: Processing an OLAP database on a 64-bit server - 10-05-2005 , 04:17 PM






Have you taken the SQL queries executed from each and execute them
interactively? That would be my first test.
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"ptaylor" <ptaylor (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote

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We are currently testing AS2K on a 64-bit 4 CPU Win2003 machine with 16GB
of
RAM. A complete process of one of our databases takes 140 minutes almost
identical to the time taken on the 32-bit production server. An
incremental
update of the database takes 45 minutes on the 64 bit machine compared to
23
minutes on the 32-bit production server. The (32-bit) machine that
launches
the incremental process on the 64-bit machine is at a remote site
connected
by a fast pipe. We have turned off logging of the OLAP process.

Any ideas why an incremental OLAP database update should be slower on a
64-bit server than a 32-bit server when a complete process takes the same
time?

TIA
P Taylor



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Default Re: Processing an OLAP database on a 64-bit server - 10-06-2005 , 02:34 PM



Thank you Dave.
On further examination it appears that there is a 30 second delay in
connecting from the administrating server (which is at a remote site) to the
64-bit server. In the case of the incremental OLAP DTS package, there are
around 40 separate steps each with its own connection and that seems to
account for the time difference. In the case of the 32-bit production
machine, the OLAP DTS package runs on a local machine so there is no
connection delay. Hence the 32-bit production set up appears faster for
incremental updates.

"Dave Wickert [MSFT]" wrote:

Quote:
Have you taken the SQL queries executed from each and execute them
interactively? That would be my first test.
--
Dave Wickert [MSFT]
dwickert (AT) online (DOT) microsoft.com
Program Manager
BI Systems Team
SQL BI Product Unit (Analysis Services)
--
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


"ptaylor" <ptaylor (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote in message
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We are currently testing AS2K on a 64-bit 4 CPU Win2003 machine with 16GB
of
RAM. A complete process of one of our databases takes 140 minutes almost
identical to the time taken on the 32-bit production server. An
incremental
update of the database takes 45 minutes on the 64 bit machine compared to
23
minutes on the 32-bit production server. The (32-bit) machine that
launches
the incremental process on the 64-bit machine is at a remote site
connected
by a fast pipe. We have turned off logging of the OLAP process.

Any ideas why an incremental OLAP database update should be slower on a
64-bit server than a 32-bit server when a complete process takes the same
time?

TIA
P Taylor




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Dave Wickert [MSFT]
 
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Default Re: Processing an OLAP database on a 64-bit server - 10-07-2005 , 12:23 AM



Hmmm... Might that 30 second delay be a domain account authentication? Check
your domain architecture. Many times this hits AS because we only support
Windows authentication and many remote slow WAN architectures use SQL
logins -- and it might appear to be an AS issue when it is really a domain
architecture issue. Just a thought.
--
Dave Wickert [MSFT]
dwickert (AT) online (DOT) microsoft.com
Program Manager
BI Systems Team
SQL BI Product Unit (Analysis Services)
--
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


"ptaylor" <ptaylor (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote

Quote:
Thank you Dave.
On further examination it appears that there is a 30 second delay in
connecting from the administrating server (which is at a remote site) to
the
64-bit server. In the case of the incremental OLAP DTS package, there are
around 40 separate steps each with its own connection and that seems to
account for the time difference. In the case of the 32-bit production
machine, the OLAP DTS package runs on a local machine so there is no
connection delay. Hence the 32-bit production set up appears faster for
incremental updates.

"Dave Wickert [MSFT]" wrote:

Have you taken the SQL queries executed from each and execute them
interactively? That would be my first test.
--
Dave Wickert [MSFT]
dwickert (AT) online (DOT) microsoft.com
Program Manager
BI Systems Team
SQL BI Product Unit (Analysis Services)
--
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.


"ptaylor" <ptaylor (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7B785D45-A0D4-492A-8F6F-0CC675EA664D (AT) microsoft (DOT) com...
We are currently testing AS2K on a 64-bit 4 CPU Win2003 machine with
16GB
of
RAM. A complete process of one of our databases takes 140 minutes
almost
identical to the time taken on the 32-bit production server. An
incremental
update of the database takes 45 minutes on the 64 bit machine compared
to
23
minutes on the 32-bit production server. The (32-bit) machine that
launches
the incremental process on the 64-bit machine is at a remote site
connected
by a fast pipe. We have turned off logging of the OLAP process.

Any ideas why an incremental OLAP database update should be slower on a
64-bit server than a 32-bit server when a complete process takes the
same
time?

TIA
P Taylor






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