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The OLAP Surveys are the largest independent surveys of BI usage worldwide. Unlike most surveys, they are not vendor sponsored or influenced and have been in operation since 2000, so they provide a unique record of not only the current picture, but also medium term trends. In order for the results to be as statistically accurate as possible, each year we invite large numbers of users and implementers to provide feedback on their experiences online. Participants receive a summary of the findings plus they are entered into a draw to win one of a number of $100 Amazon vouchers. Some of the products we are particularly interested in are Applix TM1, Business Objects, Cartesis Magnitude, Cognos, Essbase, WebFOCUS, Microsoft Analysis Services, MicroStrategy, Mondrian, Oracle Discoverer, Express, OLAP Option or Siebel Analytics, OutlookSoft, QlikView, SAP BW and SAS OLAP -- but if you use any other similar products, you are welcome to participate. Click on http://www.survey.com/olap6sur12.html if you would like to participate. |
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Hi Nigel. I haven't seen a copy of your report for a while now. Does it distinguish between servers (i.e. OLAP engines - few and far between these days), clients (i.e. the generic slice-and-dice type) and applications (i.e. functional applications that actually use, and rely on, an OLAP data source)? Tony Proctor "Nigel Pendse" <nigelp.nospam (AT) compuserve (DOT) com> wrote in message news:1151438183.13789.0 (AT) proxy02 (DOT) news.clara.net... The OLAP Surveys are the largest independent surveys of BI usage worldwide. Unlike most surveys, they are not vendor sponsored or influenced and have been in operation since 2000, so they provide a unique record of not only the current picture, but also medium term trends. In order for the results to be as statistically accurate as possible, each year we invite large numbers of users and implementers to provide feedback on their experiences online. Participants receive a summary of the findings plus they are entered into a draw to win one of a number of $100 Amazon vouchers. Some of the products we are particularly interested in are Applix TM1, Business Objects, Cartesis Magnitude, Cognos, Essbase, WebFOCUS, Microsoft Analysis Services, MicroStrategy, Mondrian, Oracle Discoverer, Express, OLAP Option or Siebel Analytics, OutlookSoft, QlikView, SAP BW and SAS OLAP -- but if you use any other similar products, you are welcome to participate. Click on http://www.survey.com/olap6sur12.html if you would like to participate. |
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Tony, It's hard to make clear distinctions any more, as all the major products overlap too much. Even MOLAP vs ROLAP or client/server vs Web distinctions are hard to make now with the major products. For example, how would you classify MicroStrategy? It includes a ROLAP engine, a Q&A client (Web or client/server), application building tools, formal reporting, etc. You can use it as a client with Analysis Services or SAP BW, or use Excel as a client to the MicroStrategy engine. Apart from its ROLAP engine, it also has a form of RAM-based cubes. Much the same could be said of Cognos 8 or Business Objects XI (though, of course, since the demise of your Holos, BO doesn't have a distinct OLAP engine as such). And while Essbase is and was a distinct MOLAP engine, Hyperion now markets it as part of the System 9 bundle which includes front-end tools, and the Essbase name has been partly dropped. Equally, Hyperion Planning includes a bundled version of Essbase, while HFM does not even use Essbase. So, a few years ago, from The OLAP Survey 2, we switched to concentrating on business benefits rather than trying to classify products based on their features -- after all, *all* BI tools are intended to deliver business benefits, regardless of their architecture or detailed features. We also use the BBI (business benefits index) as a KPI to calibrate every other aspect of deployments. That does allow us to compare products as diverse as OutlookSoft and MicroStrategy. And the results are very revealing and have produced a range of surprising, but consistent, insights. Nigel "Tony Proctor" <tony_proctor (AT) aimtechnology_NoMoreSPAM_ (DOT) com> wrote in message news:e8lbl3$j05$1 (AT) reader01 (DOT) news.esat.net Hi Nigel. I haven't seen a copy of your report for a while now. Does it distinguish between servers (i.e. OLAP engines - few and far between these days), clients (i.e. the generic slice-and-dice type) and applications (i.e. functional applications that actually use, and rely on, an OLAP data source)? Tony Proctor "Nigel Pendse" <nigelp.nospam (AT) compuserve (DOT) com> wrote in message news:1151438183.13789.0 (AT) proxy02 (DOT) news.clara.net... The OLAP Surveys are the largest independent surveys of BI usage worldwide. Unlike most surveys, they are not vendor sponsored or influenced and have been in operation since 2000, so they provide a unique record of not only the current picture, but also medium term trends. In order for the results to be as statistically accurate as possible, each year we invite large numbers of users and implementers to provide feedback on their experiences online. Participants receive a summary of the findings plus they are entered into a draw to win one of a number of $100 Amazon vouchers. Some of the products we are particularly interested in are Applix TM1, Business Objects, Cartesis Magnitude, Cognos, Essbase, WebFOCUS, Microsoft Analysis Services, MicroStrategy, Mondrian, Oracle Discoverer, Express, OLAP Option or Siebel Analytics, OutlookSoft, QlikView, SAP BW and SAS OLAP -- but if you use any other similar products, you are welcome to participate. Click on http://www.survey.com/olap6sur12.html if you would like to participate. |
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I guess that blurring of distinctions has always been true to some extent Nigel. :-) However, do companies still have to be classified as a "vendor" of an OLAP product to be included in the report? My specific interest here concerns applications that make real-life use of OLAP, as opposed to the providing the underlying engine or providing some type of viewer or reporting tool. The take-up of OLAP in the industry is still disappointingly low with many companies (& individuals) missing the point, and believing that only SQL matters. I'd be pretty interested myself to see how many products have used OLAP to deliver a real-life solution. Tony Proctor "Nigel Pendse" <nigelp.nospam (AT) compuserve (DOT) com> wrote in message news:QtKdnXUhAbSP2zPZRVnygw (AT) bt (DOT) com... Tony, It's hard to make clear distinctions any more, as all the major products overlap too much. Even MOLAP vs ROLAP or client/server vs Web distinctions are hard to make now with the major products. For example, how would you classify MicroStrategy? It includes a ROLAP engine, a Q&A client (Web or client/server), application building tools, formal reporting, etc. You can use it as a client with Analysis Services or SAP BW, or use Excel as a client to the MicroStrategy engine. Apart from its ROLAP engine, it also has a form of RAM-based cubes. Much the same could be said of Cognos 8 or Business Objects XI (though, of course, since the demise of your Holos, BO doesn't have a distinct OLAP engine as such). And while Essbase is and was a distinct MOLAP engine, Hyperion now markets it as part of the System 9 bundle which includes front-end tools, and the Essbase name has been partly dropped. Equally, Hyperion Planning includes a bundled version of Essbase, while HFM does not even use Essbase. So, a few years ago, from The OLAP Survey 2, we switched to concentrating on business benefits rather than trying to classify products based on their features -- after all, *all* BI tools are intended to deliver business benefits, regardless of their architecture or detailed features. We also use the BBI (business benefits index) as a KPI to calibrate every other aspect of deployments. That does allow us to compare products as diverse as OutlookSoft and MicroStrategy. And the results are very revealing and have produced a range of surprising, but consistent, insights. Nigel "Tony Proctor" <tony_proctor (AT) aimtechnology_NoMoreSPAM_ (DOT) com> wrote in message news:e8lbl3$j05$1 (AT) reader01 (DOT) news.esat.net Hi Nigel. I haven't seen a copy of your report for a while now. Does it distinguish between servers (i.e. OLAP engines - few and far between these days), clients (i.e. the generic slice-and-dice type) and applications (i.e. functional applications that actually use, and rely on, an OLAP data source)? Tony Proctor "Nigel Pendse" <nigelp.nospam (AT) compuserve (DOT) com> wrote in message news:1151438183.13789.0 (AT) proxy02 (DOT) news.clara.net... The OLAP Surveys are the largest independent surveys of BI usage worldwide. Unlike most surveys, they are not vendor sponsored or influenced and have been in operation since 2000, so they provide a unique record of not only the current picture, but also medium term trends. In order for the results to be as statistically accurate as possible, each year we invite large numbers of users and implementers to provide feedback on their experiences online. Participants receive a summary of the findings plus they are entered into a draw to win one of a number of $100 Amazon vouchers. Some of the products we are particularly interested in are Applix TM1, Business Objects, Cartesis Magnitude, Cognos, Essbase, WebFOCUS, Microsoft Analysis Services, MicroStrategy, Mondrian, Oracle Discoverer, Express, OLAP Option or Siebel Analytics, OutlookSoft, QlikView, SAP BW and SAS OLAP -- but if you use any other similar products, you are welcome to participate. Click on http://www.survey.com/olap6sur12.html if you would like to participate. |
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