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Those of you deciding what front-end to choose (particularly for Analysis Services) have a look at Nigel Pendse's www.olapreport.com You have to be a subscriber to view the particular report on Excel add-ins. However, it could save you much money in the long run! And those who have viewed it, what do you think? |
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O2OLAP for Excel for Microsoft's Analysis Services gets complimented by OLAP vendor's representatives. It is pretty interesting that one of the addins in question, as listed in the report you mention, not only attended one of O2OLAP's seminars in March 2003 under the guise of another linked consulting company, but also tried to download O2OLAP in the last few weeks through one of their representatives / linked companies in the market. I believe that O2OLAP is not the only OLAP company that this has happened to and I expect some of the functionality of O2OLAP for Excel to appear in this product soon as there is a new release due. As a result of this conduct we are considering our position. The problem for the companies involved, and the product, is that at the seminar we only demonstrated about 25% of the O2OLAP for Excel and we believe we will remain at least two years ahead in functionality. Technical questions were asked by the relevant products representative and the answers were given unknowingly to this competitor. However, saying this, extended and improved techniques are now available through O2OLAP for Excel. Software companies invest a lot of money in developing software products and solutions and we all do this with the aim of making money and having a competitive advantage. It is disappointing that unethical conduct goes on in the OLAP market and I am surprised these people put their companies, products and clients at risk. There are definitely relationships in the current OLAP market that are not in users interests due to the inter-relationships involved. We have noticed people placing slanted and selective comments for and against OLAP vendors and their products so as to influence the choice entities/people are making in the OLAP market. This has not affected O2OLAP, but is affecting some competitors. Users are thus not getting true independent advice. Why these comments? Probably due to commentator personal relationships with the OLAP companies or representatives of the OLAP companies and even probable personal gripes as well. Do not get me wrong but there is also some very good and independent OLAP advice on the market. I have personally been involved in the OLAP market since 1991. Our best advice for users is to try the software yourselves and see the wide functionality that is available within the OLAP market. O2OLAP's choice has been to use MS Analysis Services as the platform of choice as it provides functionality and a development platform that enables you to create just about any solution you want. This is despite what is detailed on some web sites and in discussion groups. Questions to consider when analyzing information from an advisor! 1. Do or have they earnt any commission from the advice? 2. Do or have services been provided by the advisor? 3. Is the advisor a shareholder or a director of the company? 4. Who else does the advisor work with and is there a conflict of interest as a result? 5. Has the advisor worked with any of the people within any of the companies they advise. This should be the group of companies 6. Does the recommended consultancy company or representatives have any interest in the product? 7. ......... I am sure there are more considerations here! Market commentators should fully disclose their interests and dependencies within the OLAP market so users can evaluate the quality and independence of information. Commissions and income are being earned that people should know about prior to taking the advice. Users should evaluate all the products they think are valid as some commentators do not have access to all the products and as a result their advice is slanted. Regards Howard Taylor CA(SA) Business Intelligence Manager O2OLAP Limited tel: +44 (0)20 8785 4811 fax: +44 (0)20 8789 1589 mobile: +44 (0)7831 332234 email: Howard.Taylor (AT) o2olap (DOT) com web: www.o2olap.com "John Keeley" <duvinrouge (AT) servihoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:542fe31c.0306302352.5a8e07d4 (AT) posting (DOT) google.com... Those of you deciding what front-end to choose (particularly for Analysis Services) have a look at Nigel Pendse's www.olapreport.com You have to be a subscriber to view the particular report on Excel add-ins. However, it could save you much money in the long run! And those who have viewed it, what do you think? |
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I don't really understand where Howard is going with this. I would say it is fair for product providers to understand the competition, (without of course stealing the code). as I work with another Excel add-on product I take it that if I downloaded a copy of O2OLAP to evaluate I would be in some way unethical? Also which advisors is he warning of? Jane "Howard Taylor [O2OLAP]" <Howard.Taylor (AT) o2olap (DOT) com> wrote in message news:eAeifn8PDHA.560 (AT) TK2MSFTNGP10 (DOT) phx.gbl... O2OLAP for Excel for Microsoft's Analysis Services gets complimented by OLAP vendor's representatives. It is pretty interesting that one of the addins in question, as listed in the report you mention, not only attended one of O2OLAP's seminars in March 2003 under the guise of another linked consulting company, but also tried to download O2OLAP in the last few weeks through one of their representatives / linked companies in the market. I believe that O2OLAP is not the only OLAP company that this has happened to and I expect some of the functionality of O2OLAP for Excel to appear in this product soon as there is a new release due. As a result of this conduct we are considering our position. The problem for the companies involved, and the product, is that at the seminar we only demonstrated about 25% of the O2OLAP for Excel and we believe we will remain at least two years ahead in functionality. Technical questions were asked by the relevant products representative and the answers were given unknowingly to this competitor. However, saying this, extended and improved techniques are now available through O2OLAP for Excel. Software companies invest a lot of money in developing software products and solutions and we all do this with the aim of making money and having a competitive advantage. It is disappointing that unethical conduct goes on in the OLAP market and I am surprised these people put their companies, products and clients at risk. There are definitely relationships in the current OLAP market that are not in users interests due to the inter-relationships involved. We have noticed people placing slanted and selective comments for and against OLAP vendors and their products so as to influence the choice entities/people are making in the OLAP market. This has not affected O2OLAP, but is affecting some competitors. Users are thus not getting true independent advice. Why these comments? Probably due to commentator personal relationships with the OLAP companies or representatives of the OLAP companies and even probable personal gripes as well. Do not get me wrong but there is also some very good and independent OLAP advice on the market. I have personally been involved in the OLAP market since 1991. Our best advice for users is to try the software yourselves and see the wide functionality that is available within the OLAP market. O2OLAP's choice has been to use MS Analysis Services as the platform of choice as it provides functionality and a development platform that enables you to create just about any solution you want. This is despite what is detailed on some web sites and in discussion groups. Questions to consider when analyzing information from an advisor! 1. Do or have they earnt any commission from the advice? 2. Do or have services been provided by the advisor? 3. Is the advisor a shareholder or a director of the company? 4. Who else does the advisor work with and is there a conflict of interest as a result? 5. Has the advisor worked with any of the people within any of the companies they advise. This should be the group of companies 6. Does the recommended consultancy company or representatives have any interest in the product? 7. ......... I am sure there are more considerations here! Market commentators should fully disclose their interests and dependencies within the OLAP market so users can evaluate the quality and independence of information. Commissions and income are being earned that people should know about prior to taking the advice. Users should evaluate all the products they think are valid as some commentators do not have access to all the products and as a result their advice is slanted. Regards Howard Taylor CA(SA) Business Intelligence Manager O2OLAP Limited tel: +44 (0)20 8785 4811 fax: +44 (0)20 8789 1589 mobile: +44 (0)7831 332234 email: Howard.Taylor (AT) o2olap (DOT) com web: www.o2olap.com "John Keeley" <duvinrouge (AT) servihoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:542fe31c.0306302352.5a8e07d4 (AT) posting (DOT) google.com... Those of you deciding what front-end to choose (particularly for Analysis Services) have a look at Nigel Pendse's www.olapreport.com You have to be a subscriber to view the particular report on Excel add-ins. However, it could save you much money in the long run! And those who have viewed it, what do you think? |
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Could this debate on "ethics" be held on its own thread. I was asking for comments on Nigel Pendse's report. Regards, John |
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