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Default as2005 with a sql2000 datawarehouse - 11-09-2006 , 06:35 AM






Hello there everyone
Can someone answer what may appear to be a stupid question please ?
If I install analysis Services 2005 can I use my exsisting SQL 2000
Datawarehouse to supply the dimension tables ?


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Default Re: as2005 with a sql2000 datawarehouse - 11-09-2006 , 07:28 AM






Yes, it's possible.

Ohjoo


"jimmy77" <jimmy77 (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote

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Hello there everyone
Can someone answer what may appear to be a stupid question please ?
If I install analysis Services 2005 can I use my exsisting SQL 2000
Datawarehouse to supply the dimension tables ?




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Default Re: as2005 with a sql2000 datawarehouse - 11-09-2006 , 09:43 AM



There are things tricky to understand.

Suppose the time dimension table whose columns are year and quarter.

Year Quarter
----------------
2005 Q1
2005 Q1
2005 Q1
:
2006 Q1
2006 Q1
2006 Q1

In AS 2000, if the time dimension hierarchy is Year->Quarter, each quarter
member under year member is distinguishable.

In AS 2005, each attribute hierarchy is according to each column of
dimension table. Here we can think Year and Quarter attribute hierarchy
respectively.

Each attribute hierarchy is flat consisting of just two levels (all level
and bottom level).
The members at bottom level are unique and come from the according column
using distinct query.

For example, Q1, Q2, Q3 and Q4 for Quarter attribute hierarchy.
Here you need to understand that Q1 is Q1 itself and does not belong to any
year.
Exactly, Q1 is the same as (Q1, [All Year]).
In other words, if you look at some measure for Q1, it means aggregate from
all Q1s of every year.

If you want to look at Q1 for 2005, you also have to select [2005] from Year
attribute hierarchy. And it means
(Q1, [2005])

Now you can consider having all quarter data distinguishable such as 05Q1,
05Q2, 05Q3, ..., and 06Q4.
If then, [05Q1] itself means Q1 for 2005. In other words, ([05Q1], [All
Year]) or ([05Q1], [2005])

Which way is better? It's up to you to choose which way.

Whichever way you choose, you can finally make every combination of years
and quarters.

I hope this helps you.

Ohjoo


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Yes, it's possible.

Ohjoo


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Hello there everyone
Can someone answer what may appear to be a stupid question please ?
If I install analysis Services 2005 can I use my exsisting SQL 2000
Datawarehouse to supply the dimension tables ?






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Default Re: as2005 with a sql2000 datawarehouse - 11-10-2006 , 03:58 AM



That is very helpful Ohjoo thank you very much, my next question I am going
to ask though is can you installl just the AS2005 part without installing or
purchasing the whole sql2005 and if so would you recomend this in you honest
opinion as there is a shortage of staff were I work and I want to just
develop cubes without the need for the whole datawarehouse migration aswell.

sorry to be a pain but any resources or articles you could provide on this
would be sincerely appreciatted , thank you again.


"Ohjoo Kwon" wrote:

Quote:
There are things tricky to understand.

Suppose the time dimension table whose columns are year and quarter.

Year Quarter
----------------
2005 Q1
2005 Q1
2005 Q1
:
2006 Q1
2006 Q1
2006 Q1

In AS 2000, if the time dimension hierarchy is Year->Quarter, each quarter
member under year member is distinguishable.

In AS 2005, each attribute hierarchy is according to each column of
dimension table. Here we can think Year and Quarter attribute hierarchy
respectively.

Each attribute hierarchy is flat consisting of just two levels (all level
and bottom level).
The members at bottom level are unique and come from the according column
using distinct query.

For example, Q1, Q2, Q3 and Q4 for Quarter attribute hierarchy.
Here you need to understand that Q1 is Q1 itself and does not belong to any
year.
Exactly, Q1 is the same as (Q1, [All Year]).
In other words, if you look at some measure for Q1, it means aggregate from
all Q1s of every year.

If you want to look at Q1 for 2005, you also have to select [2005] from Year
attribute hierarchy. And it means
(Q1, [2005])

Now you can consider having all quarter data distinguishable such as 05Q1,
05Q2, 05Q3, ..., and 06Q4.
If then, [05Q1] itself means Q1 for 2005. In other words, ([05Q1], [All
Year]) or ([05Q1], [2005])

Which way is better? It's up to you to choose which way.

Whichever way you choose, you can finally make every combination of years
and quarters.

I hope this helps you.

Ohjoo


"Ohjoo Kwon" <ojkwon (AT) olap (DOT) co.kr> wrote in message
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Yes, it's possible.

Ohjoo


"jimmy77" <jimmy77 (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Hello there everyone
Can someone answer what may appear to be a stupid question please ?
If I install analysis Services 2005 can I use my exsisting SQL 2000
Datawarehouse to supply the dimension tables ?







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Default Re: as2005 with a sql2000 datawarehouse - 11-10-2006 , 11:18 AM



It's possible to install only AS 2005, but SQL Server 2005 license is still
required.
AS is free only when it is installed on the same machine where SQL Server is
installed.

Usually we install both on the same machine, but we should consider
separating them when the system
is expected to become very large scale requiring very much resources.

Of course, you may modify your existing data warehouse model partially if
you want to
take advantage of new features of AS 2005 fully.

If not, although it may does not look desirable you can consider
implementing OLAP system
from current data warehouse directly.

Ohjoo

"jimmy77" <jimmy77 (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote

Quote:
That is very helpful Ohjoo thank you very much, my next question I am
going
to ask though is can you installl just the AS2005 part without installing
or
purchasing the whole sql2005 and if so would you recomend this in you
honest
opinion as there is a shortage of staff were I work and I want to just
develop cubes without the need for the whole datawarehouse migration
aswell.

sorry to be a pain but any resources or articles you could provide on this
would be sincerely appreciatted , thank you again.


"Ohjoo Kwon" wrote:

There are things tricky to understand.

Suppose the time dimension table whose columns are year and quarter.

Year Quarter
----------------
2005 Q1
2005 Q1
2005 Q1
:
2006 Q1
2006 Q1
2006 Q1

In AS 2000, if the time dimension hierarchy is Year->Quarter, each
quarter
member under year member is distinguishable.

In AS 2005, each attribute hierarchy is according to each column of
dimension table. Here we can think Year and Quarter attribute hierarchy
respectively.

Each attribute hierarchy is flat consisting of just two levels (all level
and bottom level).
The members at bottom level are unique and come from the according column
using distinct query.

For example, Q1, Q2, Q3 and Q4 for Quarter attribute hierarchy.
Here you need to understand that Q1 is Q1 itself and does not belong to
any
year.
Exactly, Q1 is the same as (Q1, [All Year]).
In other words, if you look at some measure for Q1, it means aggregate
from
all Q1s of every year.

If you want to look at Q1 for 2005, you also have to select [2005] from
Year
attribute hierarchy. And it means
(Q1, [2005])

Now you can consider having all quarter data distinguishable such as
05Q1,
05Q2, 05Q3, ..., and 06Q4.
If then, [05Q1] itself means Q1 for 2005. In other words, ([05Q1], [All
Year]) or ([05Q1], [2005])

Which way is better? It's up to you to choose which way.

Whichever way you choose, you can finally make every combination of years
and quarters.

I hope this helps you.

Ohjoo


"Ohjoo Kwon" <ojkwon (AT) olap (DOT) co.kr> wrote in message
news:%23xLuEMABHHA.3316 (AT) TK2MSFTNGP02 (DOT) phx.gbl...
Yes, it's possible.

Ohjoo


"jimmy77" <jimmy77 (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:61CF94B6-56DA-4BCC-84E4-A8D71B3724B2 (AT) microsoft (DOT) com...
Hello there everyone
Can someone answer what may appear to be a stupid question please ?
If I install analysis Services 2005 can I use my exsisting SQL 2000
Datawarehouse to supply the dimension tables ?









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