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Default Re: Scheduling DTS job - 04-01-2004 , 09:57 PM






hi!
How do i see if there is any difference in the driver
setup?
Thanks!
Quote:
-----Original Message-----
Local System account has unrestricted access to the local
box and cannot see
off that box.
The day schedule took just as long as overnight right?

Would this take as long "SQL Server to SQL Server"? i.e.
something in the
driver setup

--

Allan Mitchell MCSE,MCDBA, (Microsoft SQL Server MVP)
www.SQLDTS.com - The site for all your DTS needs.
I support PASS - the definitive, global community
for SQL Server professionals - http://www.sqlpass.org


"Sam" <anonymous (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote in
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The SQL server agent is running as Local System Account.
I cannot log in as this account. Is this equivalent to
the local administrator? How can I simulate to run?

I tried rescheduling during the day, and it took just as
long.
Nothing has been changed in sybase box.

Thanks!
-----Original Message-----
OK so it can be FAST just not when scheduled.

If that is the only difference then for me you have two
routes of
investigation

1. Accounts

Log on to the server as the SQL Server Agent account
and
execute the
package. Slow? Fast?

2. Timings

Can you one day reschedule to sometime in the day?
Can you manually execute at the same time as the
overnight job?


Is there anything going on the Sybase box

--

Allan Mitchell MCSE,MCDBA, (Microsoft SQL Server MVP)
www.SQLDTS.com - The site for all your DTS needs.
I support PASS - the definitive, global community
for SQL Server professionals - http://www.sqlpass.org


"Sam" <anonymous (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote in
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hi Allan,
In response to your questions:
1. System board was changed in the box
2. No.Its a job run at 7.30am, work has not started
yet.
3. No one hammering the work. The fact is it is
running
perfectly alright and no changes has been made over
the
weeekend except for (1)
4. Yes, package involved data transferred from
sybase to
this SQL server. There are locking when the process
started, which has never happened before. But i
suspect
it is due to the slow speed which causes the locking.
5. the part where data is transferred from sybase
server
to this server, sql server. Total 12 tables, about 4
tables took a long time. but these 4 tables are not
big
tables.
6. not known before.
7. Slow whenever i run the job.

I realise that if execute from the package level
(ie,
not
by scheduled job), it is FAST!
But once i run through scheduling, it is slow.
Why? Any thoughts?

Thanks!
-----Original Message-----
There are a whole raft of things which may be
affecting
the performance.

1. Anything changed on the box?
2. Anybody doing something at the sme time?
3. Does the job involve the network? Anybody
hammering
the network
4. Does the package involve SQL Server? locking,
blocking?
5. What parts of the package are taking the time
6. Resource issue? perfmon.
7. Does this only slow down at this time of the
day or
is it slow whenever
you run it now?

--

----------------------------

Allan Mitchell MCSE,MCDBA, (Microsoft SQL Server
MVP)
www.SQLDTS.com - The site for all your DTS needs.
I support PASS - the definitive, global community
for SQL Server professionals -
http://www.sqlpass.org


"sam" <anonymous (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote in
message
news:12f1a01c41216$191d0810$a301280a (AT) phx (DOT) gbl...
hi!
Recently my scheduled DTS job slowed down
drastically.
Normally it is a 2-3 mins job, but now it took
about
1
hr.

Can anyone suggest how can i do troubleshooting
and
where
can i start from?
Need advice.

Thanks!

Rgds,
Samuel.


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Allan Mitchell
 
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Default Re: Scheduling DTS job - 04-02-2004 , 01:33 AM






What I meant was, when you setup the sybase driver is there anything that
might cause it to be less quick than it should?
If you try to transfer the same rows(count) from SQL Server to SQL Server
over the same network then do you experience the same problems?
--
--

Allan Mitchell MCSE,MCDBA, (Microsoft SQL Server MVP)
www.SQLDTS.com - The site for all your DTS needs.
I support PASS - the definitive, global community
for SQL Server professionals - http://www.sqlpass.org


"Sam" <anonymous (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote

Quote:
hi!
How do i see if there is any difference in the driver
setup?
Thanks!
-----Original Message-----
Local System account has unrestricted access to the local
box and cannot see
off that box.
The day schedule took just as long as overnight right?

Would this take as long "SQL Server to SQL Server"? i.e.
something in the
driver setup

--

Allan Mitchell MCSE,MCDBA, (Microsoft SQL Server MVP)
www.SQLDTS.com - The site for all your DTS needs.
I support PASS - the definitive, global community
for SQL Server professionals - http://www.sqlpass.org


"Sam" <anonymous (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote in
message
news:f3cd01c41313$193708c0$a001280a (AT) phx (DOT) gbl...
The SQL server agent is running as Local System Account.
I cannot log in as this account. Is this equivalent to
the local administrator? How can I simulate to run?

I tried rescheduling during the day, and it took just as
long.
Nothing has been changed in sybase box.

Thanks!
-----Original Message-----
OK so it can be FAST just not when scheduled.

If that is the only difference then for me you have two
routes of
investigation

1. Accounts

Log on to the server as the SQL Server Agent account
and
execute the
package. Slow? Fast?

2. Timings

Can you one day reschedule to sometime in the day?
Can you manually execute at the same time as the
overnight job?


Is there anything going on the Sybase box

--

Allan Mitchell MCSE,MCDBA, (Microsoft SQL Server MVP)
www.SQLDTS.com - The site for all your DTS needs.
I support PASS - the definitive, global community
for SQL Server professionals - http://www.sqlpass.org


"Sam" <anonymous (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote in
message
news:f2e001c412fa$00bc7050$a001280a (AT) phx (DOT) gbl...
hi Allan,
In response to your questions:
1. System board was changed in the box
2. No.Its a job run at 7.30am, work has not started
yet.
3. No one hammering the work. The fact is it is
running
perfectly alright and no changes has been made over
the
weeekend except for (1)
4. Yes, package involved data transferred from
sybase to
this SQL server. There are locking when the process
started, which has never happened before. But i
suspect
it is due to the slow speed which causes the locking.
5. the part where data is transferred from sybase
server
to this server, sql server. Total 12 tables, about 4
tables took a long time. but these 4 tables are not
big
tables.
6. not known before.
7. Slow whenever i run the job.

I realise that if execute from the package level
(ie,
not
by scheduled job), it is FAST!
But once i run through scheduling, it is slow.
Why? Any thoughts?

Thanks!
-----Original Message-----
There are a whole raft of things which may be
affecting
the performance.

1. Anything changed on the box?
2. Anybody doing something at the sme time?
3. Does the job involve the network? Anybody
hammering
the network
4. Does the package involve SQL Server? locking,
blocking?
5. What parts of the package are taking the time
6. Resource issue? perfmon.
7. Does this only slow down at this time of the
day or
is it slow whenever
you run it now?

--

----------------------------

Allan Mitchell MCSE,MCDBA, (Microsoft SQL Server
MVP)
www.SQLDTS.com - The site for all your DTS needs.
I support PASS - the definitive, global community
for SQL Server professionals -
http://www.sqlpass.org


"sam" <anonymous (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote in
message
news:12f1a01c41216$191d0810$a301280a (AT) phx (DOT) gbl...
hi!
Recently my scheduled DTS job slowed down
drastically.
Normally it is a 2-3 mins job, but now it took
about
1
hr.

Can anyone suggest how can i do troubleshooting
and
where
can i start from?
Need advice.

Thanks!

Rgds,
Samuel.


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Sam
 
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Default Re: Scheduling DTS job - 04-02-2004 , 04:33 AM



I really can't think of any, Allan.
I also have problem transferring from SQL to SQL, that is,
it took just as long to run the DTS through scheduled job.

Let me give you another scenario, say I run the same DTS
as a scheduled job in another server, and it can be run in
few seconds. But when i run on this particular server, it
take ages.

I must say i have no problem running the DTS (ie, execute
package). But once I scheduled through a job, it took
very long.
Thanks for the help. Let me know if you have any clues.

Sam.
Quote:
-----Original Message-----
What I meant was, when you setup the sybase driver is
there anything that
might cause it to be less quick than it should?
If you try to transfer the same rows(count) from SQL
Server to SQL Server
over the same network then do you experience the same
problems?
--
--

Allan Mitchell MCSE,MCDBA, (Microsoft SQL Server MVP)
www.SQLDTS.com - The site for all your DTS needs.
I support PASS - the definitive, global community
for SQL Server professionals - http://www.sqlpass.org


"Sam" <anonymous (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote in
message
news:1462b01c4185e$3d0385d0$a601280a (AT) phx (DOT) gbl...
hi!
How do i see if there is any difference in the driver
setup?
Thanks!
-----Original Message-----
Local System account has unrestricted access to the
local
box and cannot see
off that box.
The day schedule took just as long as overnight right?

Would this take as long "SQL Server to SQL Server"?
i.e.
something in the
driver setup

--

Allan Mitchell MCSE,MCDBA, (Microsoft SQL Server MVP)
www.SQLDTS.com - The site for all your DTS needs.
I support PASS - the definitive, global community
for SQL Server professionals - http://www.sqlpass.org


"Sam" <anonymous (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote in
message
news:f3cd01c41313$193708c0$a001280a (AT) phx (DOT) gbl...
The SQL server agent is running as Local System
Account.
I cannot log in as this account. Is this equivalent
to
the local administrator? How can I simulate to run?

I tried rescheduling during the day, and it took
just as
long.
Nothing has been changed in sybase box.

Thanks!
-----Original Message-----
OK so it can be FAST just not when scheduled.

If that is the only difference then for me you have
two
routes of
investigation

1. Accounts

Log on to the server as the SQL Server Agent account
and
execute the
package. Slow? Fast?

2. Timings

Can you one day reschedule to sometime in the day?
Can you manually execute at the same time as the
overnight job?


Is there anything going on the Sybase box

--

Allan Mitchell MCSE,MCDBA, (Microsoft SQL Server
MVP)
www.SQLDTS.com - The site for all your DTS needs.
I support PASS - the definitive, global community
for SQL Server professionals -
http://www.sqlpass.org


"Sam" <anonymous (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote in
message
news:f2e001c412fa$00bc7050$a001280a (AT) phx (DOT) gbl...
hi Allan,
In response to your questions:
1. System board was changed in the box
2. No.Its a job run at 7.30am, work has not
started
yet.
3. No one hammering the work. The fact is it is
running
perfectly alright and no changes has been made
over
the
weeekend except for (1)
4. Yes, package involved data transferred from
sybase to
this SQL server. There are locking when the
process
started, which has never happened before. But i
suspect
it is due to the slow speed which causes the
locking.
5. the part where data is transferred from sybase
server
to this server, sql server. Total 12 tables,
about 4
tables took a long time. but these 4 tables are
not
big
tables.
6. not known before.
7. Slow whenever i run the job.

I realise that if execute from the package level
(ie,
not
by scheduled job), it is FAST!
But once i run through scheduling, it is slow.
Why? Any thoughts?

Thanks!
-----Original Message-----
There are a whole raft of things which may be
affecting
the performance.

1. Anything changed on the box?
2. Anybody doing something at the sme time?
3. Does the job involve the network? Anybody
hammering
the network
4. Does the package involve SQL Server?
locking,
blocking?
5. What parts of the package are taking the time
6. Resource issue? perfmon.
7. Does this only slow down at this time of the
day or
is it slow whenever
you run it now?

--

----------------------------

Allan Mitchell MCSE,MCDBA, (Microsoft SQL Server
MVP)
www.SQLDTS.com - The site for all your DTS needs.
I support PASS - the definitive, global community
for SQL Server professionals -
http://www.sqlpass.org


"sam" <anonymous (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com
wrote in
message
news:12f1a01c41216$191d0810$a301280a (AT) phx (DOT) gbl...
hi!
Recently my scheduled DTS job slowed down
drastically.
Normally it is a 2-3 mins job, but now it took
about
1
hr.

Can anyone suggest how can i do troubleshooting
and
where
can i start from?
Need advice.

Thanks!

Rgds,
Samuel.


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Allan Mitchell
 
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Default Re: Scheduling DTS job - 04-02-2004 , 04:47 AM



So the source and the destination remain the same except the location of the
job that fires the package changes and it runs fine? How strange!

maybe the latency is helping. Do you see any

Blocking/Lack of memory/CPU when the job is run on the original server?

Same version SQL Server + SP?

Same version of drivers?

--
--

Allan Mitchell MCSE,MCDBA, (Microsoft SQL Server MVP)
www.SQLDTS.com - The site for all your DTS needs.
I support PASS - the definitive, global community
for SQL Server professionals - http://www.sqlpass.org


"Sam" <anonymous (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote

Quote:
I really can't think of any, Allan.
I also have problem transferring from SQL to SQL, that is,
it took just as long to run the DTS through scheduled job.

Let me give you another scenario, say I run the same DTS
as a scheduled job in another server, and it can be run in
few seconds. But when i run on this particular server, it
take ages.

I must say i have no problem running the DTS (ie, execute
package). But once I scheduled through a job, it took
very long.
Thanks for the help. Let me know if you have any clues.

Sam.
-----Original Message-----
What I meant was, when you setup the sybase driver is
there anything that
might cause it to be less quick than it should?
If you try to transfer the same rows(count) from SQL
Server to SQL Server
over the same network then do you experience the same
problems?
--
--

Allan Mitchell MCSE,MCDBA, (Microsoft SQL Server MVP)
www.SQLDTS.com - The site for all your DTS needs.
I support PASS - the definitive, global community
for SQL Server professionals - http://www.sqlpass.org


"Sam" <anonymous (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote in
message
news:1462b01c4185e$3d0385d0$a601280a (AT) phx (DOT) gbl...
hi!
How do i see if there is any difference in the driver
setup?
Thanks!
-----Original Message-----
Local System account has unrestricted access to the
local
box and cannot see
off that box.
The day schedule took just as long as overnight right?

Would this take as long "SQL Server to SQL Server"?
i.e.
something in the
driver setup

--

Allan Mitchell MCSE,MCDBA, (Microsoft SQL Server MVP)
www.SQLDTS.com - The site for all your DTS needs.
I support PASS - the definitive, global community
for SQL Server professionals - http://www.sqlpass.org


"Sam" <anonymous (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote in
message
news:f3cd01c41313$193708c0$a001280a (AT) phx (DOT) gbl...
The SQL server agent is running as Local System
Account.
I cannot log in as this account. Is this equivalent
to
the local administrator? How can I simulate to run?

I tried rescheduling during the day, and it took
just as
long.
Nothing has been changed in sybase box.

Thanks!
-----Original Message-----
OK so it can be FAST just not when scheduled.

If that is the only difference then for me you have
two
routes of
investigation

1. Accounts

Log on to the server as the SQL Server Agent account
and
execute the
package. Slow? Fast?

2. Timings

Can you one day reschedule to sometime in the day?
Can you manually execute at the same time as the
overnight job?


Is there anything going on the Sybase box

--

Allan Mitchell MCSE,MCDBA, (Microsoft SQL Server
MVP)
www.SQLDTS.com - The site for all your DTS needs.
I support PASS - the definitive, global community
for SQL Server professionals -
http://www.sqlpass.org


"Sam" <anonymous (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote in
message
news:f2e001c412fa$00bc7050$a001280a (AT) phx (DOT) gbl...
hi Allan,
In response to your questions:
1. System board was changed in the box
2. No.Its a job run at 7.30am, work has not
started
yet.
3. No one hammering the work. The fact is it is
running
perfectly alright and no changes has been made
over
the
weeekend except for (1)
4. Yes, package involved data transferred from
sybase to
this SQL server. There are locking when the
process
started, which has never happened before. But i
suspect
it is due to the slow speed which causes the
locking.
5. the part where data is transferred from sybase
server
to this server, sql server. Total 12 tables,
about 4
tables took a long time. but these 4 tables are
not
big
tables.
6. not known before.
7. Slow whenever i run the job.

I realise that if execute from the package level
(ie,
not
by scheduled job), it is FAST!
But once i run through scheduling, it is slow.
Why? Any thoughts?

Thanks!
-----Original Message-----
There are a whole raft of things which may be
affecting
the performance.

1. Anything changed on the box?
2. Anybody doing something at the sme time?
3. Does the job involve the network? Anybody
hammering
the network
4. Does the package involve SQL Server?
locking,
blocking?
5. What parts of the package are taking the time
6. Resource issue? perfmon.
7. Does this only slow down at this time of the
day or
is it slow whenever
you run it now?

--

----------------------------

Allan Mitchell MCSE,MCDBA, (Microsoft SQL Server
MVP)
www.SQLDTS.com - The site for all your DTS needs.
I support PASS - the definitive, global community
for SQL Server professionals -
http://www.sqlpass.org


"sam" <anonymous (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com
wrote in
message
news:12f1a01c41216$191d0810$a301280a (AT) phx (DOT) gbl...
hi!
Recently my scheduled DTS job slowed down
drastically.
Normally it is a 2-3 mins job, but now it took
about
1
hr.

Can anyone suggest how can i do troubleshooting
and
where
can i start from?
Need advice.

Thanks!

Rgds,
Samuel.


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