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Ragnar Midtskogen
 
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Default Installing DTS packages - 02-19-2006 , 12:52 PM






Hello,

I don't know much about DTS, so I have a question:

We have an SQL Server database where we have 18 DTS packages.
As part of our disaster recovery plan we need to install these. Is there a
way to do this by TSQL?

Thanks,
Ragnar



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Allan Mitchell
 
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Default Re: Installing DTS packages - 02-19-2006 , 02:17 PM






Hello Ragnar,

This article will give you some ideas

http://www.sqldts.com/default.aspx?204

Allan Mitchell
www.SQLDTS.com
www.SQLIS.com
www.Konesans.com

Quote:
Hello,

I don't know much about DTS, so I have a question:

We have an SQL Server database where we have 18 DTS packages.
As part of our disaster recovery plan we need to install these. Is
there a
way to do this by TSQL?
Thanks,
Ragnar



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Ragnar Midtskogen
 
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Default Re: Installing DTS packages - 02-20-2006 , 02:28 PM



Thank you Allan,

From what I can see, the answer is no.
I have not heard from the guy who created the CD which we will use to
recover, but I guess he used the dts backup to store the packages on the CD.
Reding the articles you referenced makes me think that restoring the dts
packages from the CD will have to be done manually.

Ragnar

"Allan Mitchell" <allan (AT) no-spam (DOT) sqldts.com> wrote

Quote:
Hello Ragnar,

This article will give you some ideas

http://www.sqldts.com/default.aspx?204

Allan Mitchell
www.SQLDTS.com
www.SQLIS.com
www.Konesans.com

Hello,

I don't know much about DTS, so I have a question:

We have an SQL Server database where we have 18 DTS packages.
As part of our disaster recovery plan we need to install these. Is
there a
way to do this by TSQL?
Thanks,
Ragnar





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Allan Mitchell
 
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Default Re: Installing DTS packages - 02-20-2006 , 05:41 PM



Hello Ragnar,


You use a CD to recover what? Your DBs?

DTS packages if stored as local packages are located in MSDB so all you need
is a backup of MSDB and then restore it. If you want to move the packages
around on CD and not in a backup then you can export sysdtspackages from
MSDB to text file, copy to CD and then import them at the other end. This
can be automated because it is a simple copy of a text file.




Allan Mitchell
www.SQLDTS.com
www.SQLIS.com
www.Konesans.com

Quote:
Thank you Allan,

From what I can see, the answer is no.
I have not heard from the guy who created the CD which we will use to
recover, but I guess he used the dts backup to store the packages on
the CD.
Reding the articles you referenced makes me think that restoring the
dts
packages from the CD will have to be done manually.
Ragnar

"Allan Mitchell" <allan (AT) no-spam (DOT) sqldts.com> wrote in message
news:f0343b031758a8c803a898fceec0 (AT) msnews (DOT) microsoft.com...

Hello Ragnar,

This article will give you some ideas

http://www.sqldts.com/default.aspx?204

Allan Mitchell
www.SQLDTS.com
www.SQLIS.com
www.Konesans.com
Hello,

I don't know much about DTS, so I have a question:

We have an SQL Server database where we have 18 DTS packages.
As part of our disaster recovery plan we need to install these. Is
there a
way to do this by TSQL?
Thanks,
Ragnar



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Ragnar Midtskogen
 
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Default Re: Installing DTS packages - 02-20-2006 , 06:54 PM



Thank you Allan,

No, we don't back up our DB's to a CD, but the guy who created the DTS
packages may not be aware that they are stored in msdb so he backed them up
to a CD. I wasn't either until I saw something about it in the articles you
pointed me to. Some of them are quite complex, so I guess he wanted to have
copies, just in case.

We back up all our DB's, including master, model and msdb to other servers,
on a regular schedule, so that takes care of restoring the DTS packages
quickly.
I am responsible for putting together a disaster recovery plan, to make sure
we can recover within specified times from just about any conceivable
disaster, so I am looking for the fastest possible ways to recover.

Thanks for your help
Ragnar

"Allan Mitchell" <allan (AT) no-spam (DOT) sqldts.com> wrote

Quote:
Hello Ragnar,


You use a CD to recover what? Your DBs?

DTS packages if stored as local packages are located in MSDB so all you
need is a backup of MSDB and then restore it. If you want to move the
packages around on CD and not in a backup then you can export
sysdtspackages from MSDB to text file, copy to CD and then import them at
the other end. This can be automated because it is a simple copy of a
text file.




Allan Mitchell
www.SQLDTS.com
www.SQLIS.com
www.Konesans.com

Thank you Allan,

From what I can see, the answer is no.
I have not heard from the guy who created the CD which we will use to
recover, but I guess he used the dts backup to store the packages on
the CD.
Reding the articles you referenced makes me think that restoring the
dts
packages from the CD will have to be done manually.
Ragnar

"Allan Mitchell" <allan (AT) no-spam (DOT) sqldts.com> wrote in message
news:f0343b031758a8c803a898fceec0 (AT) msnews (DOT) microsoft.com...

Hello Ragnar,

This article will give you some ideas

http://www.sqldts.com/default.aspx?204

Allan Mitchell
www.SQLDTS.com
www.SQLIS.com
www.Konesans.com
Hello,

I don't know much about DTS, so I have a question:

We have an SQL Server database where we have 18 DTS packages.
As part of our disaster recovery plan we need to install these. Is
there a
way to do this by TSQL?
Thanks,
Ragnar





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Ragnar Midtskogen
 
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Default Re: Installing DTS packages - 02-20-2006 , 08:08 PM



Allan,

Where are the packages stored in msdb? I ran exec msdb..sp_enum_dtspackages
and it listed only one.
I have seen something about the Repository, but I have no idea what it is.

Ragnar

"Ragnar Midtskogen" <ragnar_ng (AT) newsgroups (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Thank you Allan,

No, we don't back up our DB's to a CD, but the guy who created the DTS
packages may not be aware that they are stored in msdb so he backed them
up to a CD. I wasn't either until I saw something about it in the articles
you pointed me to. Some of them are quite complex, so I guess he wanted to
have copies, just in case.

We back up all our DB's, including master, model and msdb to other
servers, on a regular schedule, so that takes care of restoring the DTS
packages quickly.
I am responsible for putting together a disaster recovery plan, to make
sure we can recover within specified times from just about any conceivable
disaster, so I am looking for the fastest possible ways to recover.

Thanks for your help
Ragnar

"Allan Mitchell" <allan (AT) no-spam (DOT) sqldts.com> wrote in message
news:f0343b0317ab08c8048e42ebc5f8 (AT) msnews (DOT) microsoft.com...
Hello Ragnar,


You use a CD to recover what? Your DBs?

DTS packages if stored as local packages are located in MSDB so all you
need is a backup of MSDB and then restore it. If you want to move the
packages around on CD and not in a backup then you can export
sysdtspackages from MSDB to text file, copy to CD and then import them at
the other end. This can be automated because it is a simple copy of a
text file.




Allan Mitchell
www.SQLDTS.com
www.SQLIS.com
www.Konesans.com

Thank you Allan,

From what I can see, the answer is no.
I have not heard from the guy who created the CD which we will use to
recover, but I guess he used the dts backup to store the packages on
the CD.
Reding the articles you referenced makes me think that restoring the
dts
packages from the CD will have to be done manually.
Ragnar

"Allan Mitchell" <allan (AT) no-spam (DOT) sqldts.com> wrote in message
news:f0343b031758a8c803a898fceec0 (AT) msnews (DOT) microsoft.com...

Hello Ragnar,

This article will give you some ideas

http://www.sqldts.com/default.aspx?204

Allan Mitchell
www.SQLDTS.com
www.SQLIS.com
www.Konesans.com
Hello,

I don't know much about DTS, so I have a question:

We have an SQL Server database where we have 18 DTS packages.
As part of our disaster recovery plan we need to install these. Is
there a
way to do this by TSQL?
Thanks,
Ragnar







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Allan Mitchell
 
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Default Re: Installing DTS packages - 02-21-2006 , 06:50 PM



Hello Ragnar,

have a look in sysdtspackages

Maybe the previous guy only actually saved them to storage files and the
CD is a copy of those packages???

Look on the filesyatem for anything with an extension of .dts


Allan Mitchell
www.SQLDTS.com
www.SQLIS.com
www.Konesans.com

Quote:
Allan,

Where are the packages stored in msdb? I ran exec
msdb..sp_enum_dtspackages
and it listed only one.
I have seen something about the Repository, but I have no idea what it
is.
Ragnar

"Ragnar Midtskogen" <ragnar_ng (AT) newsgroups (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:OyEtZFoNGHA.3260 (AT) TK2MSFTNGP11 (DOT) phx.gbl...

Thank you Allan,

No, we don't back up our DB's to a CD, but the guy who created the
DTS packages may not be aware that they are stored in msdb so he
backed them up to a CD. I wasn't either until I saw something about
it in the articles you pointed me to. Some of them are quite complex,
so I guess he wanted to have copies, just in case.

We back up all our DB's, including master, model and msdb to other
servers, on a regular schedule, so that takes care of restoring the
DTS
packages quickly.
I am responsible for putting together a disaster recovery plan, to
make
sure we can recover within specified times from just about any
conceivable
disaster, so I am looking for the fastest possible ways to recover.
Thanks for your help
Ragnar
"Allan Mitchell" <allan (AT) no-spam (DOT) sqldts.com> wrote in message
news:f0343b0317ab08c8048e42ebc5f8 (AT) msnews (DOT) microsoft.com...

Hello Ragnar,

You use a CD to recover what? Your DBs?

DTS packages if stored as local packages are located in MSDB so all
you need is a backup of MSDB and then restore it. If you want to
move the packages around on CD and not in a backup then you can
export sysdtspackages from MSDB to text file, copy to CD and then
import them at the other end. This can be automated because it is a
simple copy of a text file.

Allan Mitchell
www.SQLDTS.com
www.SQLIS.com
www.Konesans.com
Thank you Allan,

From what I can see, the answer is no.
I have not heard from the guy who created the CD which we will use
to
recover, but I guess he used the dts backup to store the packages
on
the CD.
Reding the articles you referenced makes me think that restoring
the
dts
packages from the CD will have to be done manually.
Ragnar
"Allan Mitchell" <allan (AT) no-spam (DOT) sqldts.com> wrote in message
news:f0343b031758a8c803a898fceec0 (AT) msnews (DOT) microsoft.com...

Hello Ragnar,

This article will give you some ideas

http://www.sqldts.com/default.aspx?204

Allan Mitchell
www.SQLDTS.com
www.SQLIS.com
www.Konesans.com
Hello,

I don't know much about DTS, so I have a question:

We have an SQL Server database where we have 18 DTS packages.
As part of our disaster recovery plan we need to install these.
Is
there a
way to do this by TSQL?
Thanks,
Ragnar



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Ragnar Midtskogen
 
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Default Re: Installing DTS packages - 02-21-2006 , 08:11 PM



Hello Allan,

As Alice said: "This is getting curiouser and curiouser..."
There is one DTS item in the sysdtspackages and that is the one listed by
exec msdb..sp_enum_dtspackages, but that is not one of the packages listed
as required to operate the application.
There is a whole bunch of files with extension dts, those include those the
guy lists as being backed up as 'Structured Storage Files'
The packages must be in SQL Server somewhere, they are being used every
night, importing data from an Alpha4 database.
Can SQL Server use the dts packages in those files or do they have to be in
the msdb database?

Ragnar

"Allan Mitchell" <allan (AT) no-spam (DOT) sqldts.com> wrote

Quote:
Hello Ragnar,

have a look in sysdtspackages

Maybe the previous guy only actually saved them to storage files and the
CD is a copy of those packages???

Look on the filesyatem for anything with an extension of .dts


Allan Mitchell
www.SQLDTS.com
www.SQLIS.com
www.Konesans.com

Allan,

Where are the packages stored in msdb? I ran exec
msdb..sp_enum_dtspackages
and it listed only one.
I have seen something about the Repository, but I have no idea what it
is.
Ragnar

"Ragnar Midtskogen" <ragnar_ng (AT) newsgroups (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:OyEtZFoNGHA.3260 (AT) TK2MSFTNGP11 (DOT) phx.gbl...

Thank you Allan,

No, we don't back up our DB's to a CD, but the guy who created the
DTS packages may not be aware that they are stored in msdb so he
backed them up to a CD. I wasn't either until I saw something about
it in the articles you pointed me to. Some of them are quite complex,
so I guess he wanted to have copies, just in case.

We back up all our DB's, including master, model and msdb to other
servers, on a regular schedule, so that takes care of restoring the
DTS
packages quickly.
I am responsible for putting together a disaster recovery plan, to
make
sure we can recover within specified times from just about any
conceivable
disaster, so I am looking for the fastest possible ways to recover.
Thanks for your help
Ragnar
"Allan Mitchell" <allan (AT) no-spam (DOT) sqldts.com> wrote in message
news:f0343b0317ab08c8048e42ebc5f8 (AT) msnews (DOT) microsoft.com...

Hello Ragnar,

You use a CD to recover what? Your DBs?

DTS packages if stored as local packages are located in MSDB so all
you need is a backup of MSDB and then restore it. If you want to
move the packages around on CD and not in a backup then you can
export sysdtspackages from MSDB to text file, copy to CD and then
import them at the other end. This can be automated because it is a
simple copy of a text file.

Allan Mitchell
www.SQLDTS.com
www.SQLIS.com
www.Konesans.com
Thank you Allan,

From what I can see, the answer is no.
I have not heard from the guy who created the CD which we will use
to
recover, but I guess he used the dts backup to store the packages
on
the CD.
Reding the articles you referenced makes me think that restoring
the
dts
packages from the CD will have to be done manually.
Ragnar
"Allan Mitchell" <allan (AT) no-spam (DOT) sqldts.com> wrote in message
news:f0343b031758a8c803a898fceec0 (AT) msnews (DOT) microsoft.com...

Hello Ragnar,

This article will give you some ideas

http://www.sqldts.com/default.aspx?204

Allan Mitchell
www.SQLDTS.com
www.SQLIS.com
www.Konesans.com
Hello,

I don't know much about DTS, so I have a question:

We have an SQL Server database where we have 18 DTS packages.
As part of our disaster recovery plan we need to install these.
Is
there a
way to do this by TSQL?
Thanks,
Ragnar





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Allan Mitchell
 
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Default Re: Installing DTS packages - 02-21-2006 , 08:46 PM



Hello Ragnar,

They can be in files with no problems.

Allan Mitchell
www.SQLDTS.com
www.SQLIS.com
www.Konesans.com

Quote:
Hello Allan,

As Alice said: "This is getting curiouser and curiouser..."
There is one DTS item in the sysdtspackages and that is the one listed
by
exec msdb..sp_enum_dtspackages, but that is not one of the packages
listed
as required to operate the application.
There is a whole bunch of files with extension dts, those include
those the
guy lists as being backed up as 'Structured Storage Files'
The packages must be in SQL Server somewhere, they are being used
every
night, importing data from an Alpha4 database.
Can SQL Server use the dts packages in those files or do they have to
be in
the msdb database?
Ragnar

"Allan Mitchell" <allan (AT) no-spam (DOT) sqldts.com> wrote in message
news:f0343b0317c9f8c80561144735a0 (AT) msnews (DOT) microsoft.com...

Hello Ragnar,

have a look in sysdtspackages

Maybe the previous guy only actually saved them to storage files and
the CD is a copy of those packages???

Look on the filesyatem for anything with an extension of .dts

Allan Mitchell
www.SQLDTS.com
www.SQLIS.com
www.Konesans.com
Allan,

Where are the packages stored in msdb? I ran exec
msdb..sp_enum_dtspackages
and it listed only one.
I have seen something about the Repository, but I have no idea what
it
is.
Ragnar
"Ragnar Midtskogen" <ragnar_ng (AT) newsgroups (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:OyEtZFoNGHA.3260 (AT) TK2MSFTNGP11 (DOT) phx.gbl...

Thank you Allan,

No, we don't back up our DB's to a CD, but the guy who created the
DTS packages may not be aware that they are stored in msdb so he
backed them up to a CD. I wasn't either until I saw something about
it in the articles you pointed me to. Some of them are quite
complex, so I guess he wanted to have copies, just in case.

We back up all our DB's, including master, model and msdb to other
servers, on a regular schedule, so that takes care of restoring the
DTS
packages quickly.
I am responsible for putting together a disaster recovery plan, to
make
sure we can recover within specified times from just about any
conceivable
disaster, so I am looking for the fastest possible ways to recover.
Thanks for your help
Ragnar
"Allan Mitchell" <allan (AT) no-spam (DOT) sqldts.com> wrote in message
news:f0343b0317ab08c8048e42ebc5f8 (AT) msnews (DOT) microsoft.com...
Hello Ragnar,

You use a CD to recover what? Your DBs?

DTS packages if stored as local packages are located in MSDB so
all you need is a backup of MSDB and then restore it. If you want
to move the packages around on CD and not in a backup then you can
export sysdtspackages from MSDB to text file, copy to CD and then
import them at the other end. This can be automated because it is
a simple copy of a text file.

Allan Mitchell
www.SQLDTS.com
www.SQLIS.com
www.Konesans.com
Thank you Allan,

From what I can see, the answer is no.
I have not heard from the guy who created the CD which we will
use
to
recover, but I guess he used the dts backup to store the packages
on
the CD.
Reding the articles you referenced makes me think that restoring
the
dts
packages from the CD will have to be done manually.
Ragnar
"Allan Mitchell" <allan (AT) no-spam (DOT) sqldts.com> wrote in message
news:f0343b031758a8c803a898fceec0 (AT) msnews (DOT) microsoft.com...
Hello Ragnar,

This article will give you some ideas

http://www.sqldts.com/default.aspx?204

Allan Mitchell
www.SQLDTS.com
www.SQLIS.com
www.Konesans.com
Hello,

I don't know much about DTS, so I have a question:

We have an SQL Server database where we have 18 DTS packages.
As part of our disaster recovery plan we need to install these.
Is
there a
way to do this by TSQL?
Thanks,
Ragnar



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Ragnar Midtskogen
 
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Default Re: Installing DTS packages - 02-22-2006 , 10:28 AM



Thank you Allan,

But if they are in files, then restoring the msdb database would not restore
the DTS packages then?

Ragnar

"Allan Mitchell" <allan (AT) no-spam (DOT) sqldts.com> wrote

Quote:
Hello Ragnar,

They can be in files with no problems.

Allan Mitchell
www.SQLDTS.com
www.SQLIS.com
www.Konesans.com

Hello Allan,

As Alice said: "This is getting curiouser and curiouser..."
There is one DTS item in the sysdtspackages and that is the one listed
by
exec msdb..sp_enum_dtspackages, but that is not one of the packages
listed
as required to operate the application.
There is a whole bunch of files with extension dts, those include
those the
guy lists as being backed up as 'Structured Storage Files'
The packages must be in SQL Server somewhere, they are being used
every
night, importing data from an Alpha4 database.
Can SQL Server use the dts packages in those files or do they have to
be in
the msdb database?
Ragnar

"Allan Mitchell" <allan (AT) no-spam (DOT) sqldts.com> wrote in message
news:f0343b0317c9f8c80561144735a0 (AT) msnews (DOT) microsoft.com...

Hello Ragnar,

have a look in sysdtspackages

Maybe the previous guy only actually saved them to storage files and
the CD is a copy of those packages???

Look on the filesyatem for anything with an extension of .dts

Allan Mitchell
www.SQLDTS.com
www.SQLIS.com
www.Konesans.com
Allan,

Where are the packages stored in msdb? I ran exec
msdb..sp_enum_dtspackages
and it listed only one.
I have seen something about the Repository, but I have no idea what
it
is.
Ragnar
"Ragnar Midtskogen" <ragnar_ng (AT) newsgroups (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:OyEtZFoNGHA.3260 (AT) TK2MSFTNGP11 (DOT) phx.gbl...

Thank you Allan,

No, we don't back up our DB's to a CD, but the guy who created the
DTS packages may not be aware that they are stored in msdb so he
backed them up to a CD. I wasn't either until I saw something about
it in the articles you pointed me to. Some of them are quite
complex, so I guess he wanted to have copies, just in case.

We back up all our DB's, including master, model and msdb to other
servers, on a regular schedule, so that takes care of restoring the
DTS
packages quickly.
I am responsible for putting together a disaster recovery plan, to
make
sure we can recover within specified times from just about any
conceivable
disaster, so I am looking for the fastest possible ways to recover.
Thanks for your help
Ragnar
"Allan Mitchell" <allan (AT) no-spam (DOT) sqldts.com> wrote in message
news:f0343b0317ab08c8048e42ebc5f8 (AT) msnews (DOT) microsoft.com...
Hello Ragnar,

You use a CD to recover what? Your DBs?

DTS packages if stored as local packages are located in MSDB so
all you need is a backup of MSDB and then restore it. If you want
to move the packages around on CD and not in a backup then you can
export sysdtspackages from MSDB to text file, copy to CD and then
import them at the other end. This can be automated because it is
a simple copy of a text file.

Allan Mitchell
www.SQLDTS.com
www.SQLIS.com
www.Konesans.com
Thank you Allan,

From what I can see, the answer is no.
I have not heard from the guy who created the CD which we will
use
to
recover, but I guess he used the dts backup to store the packages
on
the CD.
Reding the articles you referenced makes me think that restoring
the
dts
packages from the CD will have to be done manually.
Ragnar
"Allan Mitchell" <allan (AT) no-spam (DOT) sqldts.com> wrote in message
news:f0343b031758a8c803a898fceec0 (AT) msnews (DOT) microsoft.com...
Hello Ragnar,

This article will give you some ideas

http://www.sqldts.com/default.aspx?204

Allan Mitchell
www.SQLDTS.com
www.SQLIS.com
www.Konesans.com
Hello,

I don't know much about DTS, so I have a question:

We have an SQL Server database where we have 18 DTS packages.
As part of our disaster recovery plan we need to install these.
Is
there a
way to do this by TSQL?
Thanks,
Ragnar





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