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Default DTS and Network Connection. - 10-01-2003 , 02:53 PM






Hi,

I have a DTS package which exports large amount of data
from Server1 (SQL Server 2000) to Server2 (SQL Server
2000) daily. Both the servers reside at the server room
and there is a direct network connection between Server1
and Server2. Both the servers have another LAN network
connection too.

My question is..how do I know DTS uses direction to
transfer data instead of LAN connection.

Is there a way to configure SQL Server DTS to use the
direct connection?

Thanks a lot for any assistance/guidance you may provide,
in advance.


Selvakumar

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Default Re: DTS and Network Connection. - 10-02-2003 , 05:53 AM






I guess you will need to use the IP address of the direct connection to try
and ensure that the direct cable is used as opposed to any other route. Do
not use a name as this could go either way.

The real question is how to force network traffic to use a particular
network route. This is networking, not my area I'm afraid.

--
Darren Green
http://www.sqldts.com

"Selvakumar" <rsk5d (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Hi,

I have a DTS package which exports large amount of data
from Server1 (SQL Server 2000) to Server2 (SQL Server
2000) daily. Both the servers reside at the server room
and there is a direct network connection between Server1
and Server2. Both the servers have another LAN network
connection too.

My question is..how do I know DTS uses direction to
transfer data instead of LAN connection.

Is there a way to configure SQL Server DTS to use the
direct connection?

Thanks a lot for any assistance/guidance you may provide,
in advance.


Selvakumar



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Selvakumar
 
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Default Re: DTS and Network Connection. - 10-03-2003 , 12:38 PM



First, thanks a lot for your response.

You mean, I have to specify the target sql server by IP
and NOT by the server name in the DTS package. Am I right.

Thanks.


Quote:
-----Original Message-----
I guess you will need to use the IP address of the
direct connection to try
and ensure that the direct cable is used as opposed to
any other route. Do
not use a name as this could go either way.

The real question is how to force network traffic to use
a particular
network route. This is networking, not my area I'm
afraid.

--
Darren Green
http://www.sqldts.com

"Selvakumar" <rsk5d (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:0d1701c38855$a0d0ebf0$a101280a (AT) phx (DOT) gbl...
Hi,

I have a DTS package which exports large amount of data
from Server1 (SQL Server 2000) to Server2 (SQL Server
2000) daily. Both the servers reside at the server room
and there is a direct network connection between
Server1
and Server2. Both the servers have another LAN network
connection too.

My question is..how do I know DTS uses direction to
transfer data instead of LAN connection.

Is there a way to configure SQL Server DTS to use the
direct connection?

Thanks a lot for any assistance/guidance you may
provide,
in advance.


Selvakumar


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Darren Green
 
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Default Re: DTS and Network Connection. - 10-03-2003 , 03:02 PM



In article <015c01c389d5$26abf9b0$a401280a (AT) phx (DOT) gbl>, Selvakumar
<rsk5d (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> writes
Quote:
First, thanks a lot for your response.

You mean, I have to specify the target sql server by IP
and NOT by the server name in the DTS package. Am I right.

Thanks.

Yep, use the IP.

Using the name means it could resolve to either IP, so you have no
control.

--
Darren Green (SQL Server MVP)
DTS - http://www.sqldts.com

PASS - the definitive, global community for SQL Server professionals
http://www.sqlpass.org



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Selvakumar
 
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Default Re: DTS and Network Connection. - 10-05-2003 , 11:38 AM



The Server2 with SQL Server 2000 has two IP address like
below:

192.168.15.62 - LAN
10.20.1.1 - DIRECT CONNECTION to the Server1

If I give LAN IP addres in DTS export package, DTS is
able to connect to Server2 BUT if I give IP address of
DRIRECT CONNECTION, DTS could NOT connect to Server2.

Is there any other option to make it work?

Thanks.

Quote:
-----Original Message-----
In article <015c01c389d5$26abf9b0$a401280a (AT) phx (DOT) gbl>,
Selvakumar
rsk5d (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> writes
First, thanks a lot for your response.

You mean, I have to specify the target sql server by IP
and NOT by the server name in the DTS package. Am I
right.

Thanks.


Yep, use the IP.

Using the name means it could resolve to either IP, so
you have no
control.

--
Darren Green (SQL Server MVP)
DTS - http://www.sqldts.com

PASS - the definitive, global community for SQL Server
professionals
http://www.sqlpass.org

.


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Darren Green
 
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Default Re: DTS and Network Connection. - 10-06-2003 , 11:39 AM



Can you make any connection down the direct connection?
Can you ping?
Can you use a file share?
Can you connect via Query Analyzer.
Is your SQL Server listening on the direct IP? Check the error log. If not
why not? Is this a cluster? Is the TCP/IP NetLib enabled?

Start simple, and ignore DTS until all the lesser tests work.


--
Darren Green
http://www.sqldts.com


"Selvakumar" <rsk5d (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
The Server2 with SQL Server 2000 has two IP address like
below:

192.168.15.62 - LAN
10.20.1.1 - DIRECT CONNECTION to the Server1

If I give LAN IP addres in DTS export package, DTS is
able to connect to Server2 BUT if I give IP address of
DRIRECT CONNECTION, DTS could NOT connect to Server2.

Is there any other option to make it work?

Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
In article <015c01c389d5$26abf9b0$a401280a (AT) phx (DOT) gbl>,
Selvakumar
rsk5d (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> writes
First, thanks a lot for your response.

You mean, I have to specify the target sql server by IP
and NOT by the server name in the DTS package. Am I
right.

Thanks.


Yep, use the IP.

Using the name means it could resolve to either IP, so
you have no
control.

--
Darren Green (SQL Server MVP)
DTS - http://www.sqldts.com

PASS - the definitive, global community for SQL Server
professionals
http://www.sqlpass.org

.




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Selvakuamr
 
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Default Re: DTS and Network Connection. - 10-06-2003 , 02:35 PM



GOOD NEWS.

Now I am able to connect from Server1 to Server2 using
Direct Connction IP address.

I checked following as per your suggestion to make sure
basic connectivity is OK.

Ping was OK

Tracert was OK

File Share was OK

SQL Query Analyser Connectivity was OK

Then, I changed my DTS connection from server2's name to
IP address. It STARTED to work. I did not do any other
change in anything at all. But it seems to work now.

I will post my feed back soon I run my next data export.

Once again, thanks a lot for your assitance, Darren Green.

Selvakumar.


Quote:
-----Original Message-----
Can you make any connection down the direct connection?
Can you ping?
Can you use a file share?
Can you connect via Query Analyzer.
Is your SQL Server listening on the direct IP? Check the
error log. If not
why not? Is this a cluster? Is the TCP/IP NetLib enabled?

Start simple, and ignore DTS until all the lesser tests
work.


--
Darren Green
http://www.sqldts.com


"Selvakumar" <rsk5d (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:104001c38b5f$16fbcaa0$a001280a (AT) phx (DOT) gbl...
The Server2 with SQL Server 2000 has two IP address
like
below:

192.168.15.62 - LAN
10.20.1.1 - DIRECT CONNECTION to the Server1

If I give LAN IP addres in DTS export package, DTS is
able to connect to Server2 BUT if I give IP address of
DRIRECT CONNECTION, DTS could NOT connect to Server2.

Is there any other option to make it work?

Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
In article <015c01c389d5$26abf9b0$a401280a (AT) phx (DOT) gbl>,
Selvakumar
rsk5d (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> writes
First, thanks a lot for your response.

You mean, I have to specify the target sql server by
IP
and NOT by the server name in the DTS package. Am I
right.

Thanks.


Yep, use the IP.

Using the name means it could resolve to either IP, so
you have no
control.

--
Darren Green (SQL Server MVP)
DTS - http://www.sqldts.com

PASS - the definitive, global community for SQL Server
professionals
http://www.sqlpass.org

.



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Selvakumar
 
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Default Re: DTS and Network Connection. - 10-16-2003 , 02:27 PM



Hi,

I tested the data export couple of times and time taken
for the data export is almost the same.

Trying to expore more on this issue.

Thanks.

Selvakumar


Quote:
-----Original Message-----
GOOD NEWS.

Now I am able to connect from Server1 to Server2 using
Direct Connction IP address.

I checked following as per your suggestion to make sure
basic connectivity is OK.

Ping was OK

Tracert was OK

File Share was OK

SQL Query Analyser Connectivity was OK

Then, I changed my DTS connection from server2's name to
IP address. It STARTED to work. I did not do any other
change in anything at all. But it seems to work now.

I will post my feed back soon I run my next data export.

Once again, thanks a lot for your assitance, Darren
Green.

Selvakumar.


-----Original Message-----
Can you make any connection down the direct connection?
Can you ping?
Can you use a file share?
Can you connect via Query Analyzer.
Is your SQL Server listening on the direct IP? Check
the
error log. If not
why not? Is this a cluster? Is the TCP/IP NetLib
enabled?

Start simple, and ignore DTS until all the lesser tests
work.


--
Darren Green
http://www.sqldts.com


"Selvakumar" <rsk5d (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:104001c38b5f$16fbcaa0$a001280a (AT) phx (DOT) gbl...
The Server2 with SQL Server 2000 has two IP address
like
below:

192.168.15.62 - LAN
10.20.1.1 - DIRECT CONNECTION to the Server1

If I give LAN IP addres in DTS export package, DTS is
able to connect to Server2 BUT if I give IP address of
DRIRECT CONNECTION, DTS could NOT connect to Server2.

Is there any other option to make it work?

Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
In article <015c01c389d5$26abf9b0$a401280a (AT) phx (DOT) gbl>,
Selvakumar
rsk5d (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> writes
First, thanks a lot for your response.

You mean, I have to specify the target sql server
by
IP
and NOT by the server name in the DTS package. Am I
right.

Thanks.


Yep, use the IP.

Using the name means it could resolve to either IP,
so
you have no
control.

--
Darren Green (SQL Server MVP)
DTS - http://www.sqldts.com

PASS - the definitive, global community for SQL
Server
professionals
http://www.sqlpass.org

.



.

.


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Darren Green
 
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Default Re: DTS and Network Connection. - 10-17-2003 , 02:23 AM



Maybe the switched link is not very busy to start with, so the benefit of
using the direct connection is not really a factor. Maybe the network is not
the bottleneck.

Trying using Performance monitor to see what the load etc is like on your
network cards.

You could also try a network sniffer product to confirm that the traffic is
flowing the way you expect.


--
Darren Green
http://www.sqldts.com


"Selvakumar" <rsk5d (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Hi,

I tested the data export couple of times and time taken
for the data export is almost the same.

Trying to expore more on this issue.

Thanks.

Selvakumar


-----Original Message-----
GOOD NEWS.

Now I am able to connect from Server1 to Server2 using
Direct Connction IP address.

I checked following as per your suggestion to make sure
basic connectivity is OK.

Ping was OK

Tracert was OK

File Share was OK

SQL Query Analyser Connectivity was OK

Then, I changed my DTS connection from server2's name to
IP address. It STARTED to work. I did not do any other
change in anything at all. But it seems to work now.

I will post my feed back soon I run my next data export.

Once again, thanks a lot for your assitance, Darren
Green.

Selvakumar.


-----Original Message-----
Can you make any connection down the direct connection?
Can you ping?
Can you use a file share?
Can you connect via Query Analyzer.
Is your SQL Server listening on the direct IP? Check
the
error log. If not
why not? Is this a cluster? Is the TCP/IP NetLib
enabled?

Start simple, and ignore DTS until all the lesser tests
work.


--
Darren Green
http://www.sqldts.com


"Selvakumar" <rsk5d (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:104001c38b5f$16fbcaa0$a001280a (AT) phx (DOT) gbl...
The Server2 with SQL Server 2000 has two IP address
like
below:

192.168.15.62 - LAN
10.20.1.1 - DIRECT CONNECTION to the Server1

If I give LAN IP addres in DTS export package, DTS is
able to connect to Server2 BUT if I give IP address of
DRIRECT CONNECTION, DTS could NOT connect to Server2.

Is there any other option to make it work?

Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
In article <015c01c389d5$26abf9b0$a401280a (AT) phx (DOT) gbl>,
Selvakumar
rsk5d (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> writes
First, thanks a lot for your response.

You mean, I have to specify the target sql server
by
IP
and NOT by the server name in the DTS package. Am I
right.

Thanks.


Yep, use the IP.

Using the name means it could resolve to either IP,
so
you have no
control.

--
Darren Green (SQL Server MVP)
DTS - http://www.sqldts.com

PASS - the definitive, global community for SQL
Server
professionals
http://www.sqlpass.org

.



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