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Default Win 2k AE, SQL 2k EE, Clustering after 1 node failed after a hardware death - 01-14-2004 , 02:21 PM






Hi,

I got a problem with a cluster with SQL 2000 EE.

Had two servers, Win 2k Adv Ed., one of them died.
Failover to node 2 worked fine.

Bought some new hardware, installed Win 2k Adv. Ed., SP4,
MSCS.

I EVICTED the old server form the MSCS console from node 2.

I did install the new server with the same computername
and IP adresses then the old, now dead, server.

When I try and run SQL 2k EE, I can't seem to install my
node. All seems well in Cluster Admin console. I see my
two nodes, the resources are all active on node 2 since
the failover.

When I start SQL 2k EE setup, it asks for my Virtual
Server, to which I answer with the name of the virtual
server on node 2 (should that be what I need to do?)

My questions:

1- I should see the Quorum and my Data partiton from my
Fiber Array on my new server, right? Problem is, I don't
see the partitions. That's a problem, right?

2- Can someone please tell me what are the choices I got
to make during the SQL 2000 EE installation?

First - Virtual Server as the choice, and the name of my
clustered virtual server for the answer. NEXT

Second - Upgrade, Remove or Add? Or ADVANCED?

Third - Going for ADVANCED at #2, only choice here is
MAINTAINS A VS FOR FAILOVER CLUSTERING

Fourth - Ask for an IP, I got 1 choice in the bottom box,
whihc is the IP of my virtual server. DO I need to enter
anything, or just click NEXT?

Fifth - In thie Cluster Management window, I see my node 2
as a configured node, and I need to add some more. The new
node, the server I am installing, is "UNAVAILABLE"...
What's wrong? Never got further than this.


Thanks for the help.

P. Carignan
philippe.carignan (AT) tariffic (DOT) com

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Geoff N. Hiten
 
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Default Re: Win 2k AE, SQL 2k EE, Clustering after 1 node failed after a hardware death - 01-14-2004 , 03:16 PM






Answers Inline
"Philippe Carignan" <philippe.carignan (AT) tariffic (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Hi,

I got a problem with a cluster with SQL 2000 EE.

Had two servers, Win 2k Adv Ed., one of them died.
Failover to node 2 worked fine.

Bought some new hardware, installed Win 2k Adv. Ed., SP4,
MSCS.

I EVICTED the old server form the MSCS console from node 2.

I did install the new server with the same computername
and IP adresses then the old, now dead, server.

When I try and run SQL 2k EE, I can't seem to install my
node. All seems well in Cluster Admin console. I see my
two nodes, the resources are all active on node 2 since
the failover.

When I start SQL 2k EE setup, it asks for my Virtual
Server, to which I answer with the name of the virtual
server on node 2 (should that be what I need to do?)

My questions:

1- I should see the Quorum and my Data partiton from my
Fiber Array on my new server, right? Problem is, I don't
see the partitions. That's a problem, right?
Yes. Until you can see the partitions you can go no further.

2- Can someone please tell me what are the choices I got
to make during the SQL 2000 EE installation?
Did you run the SQL 2000 EE installation CD and remove the dead node from
SQL? That is also a necessary step in addition to evicting the node.
Quote:
First - Virtual Server as the choice, and the name of my
clustered virtual server for the answer. NEXT

Next.
Second - Upgrade, Remove or Add? Or ADVANCED?

Advanced
Third - Going for ADVANCED at #2, only choice here is
MAINTAINS A VS FOR FAILOVER CLUSTERING

Yep.
Fourth - Ask for an IP, I got 1 choice in the bottom box,
whihc is the IP of my virtual server. DO I need to enter
anything, or just click NEXT?

Next, this is just verifying things.
Fifth - In thie Cluster Management window, I see my node 2
as a configured node, and I need to add some more. The new
node, the server I am installing, is "UNAVAILABLE"...
What's wrong? Never got further than this.

This is where you need to remove the dead node. Only after it is removed
from SQL can you add it back.

Quote:
Thanks for the help.
No Problem.

P. Carignan
philippe.carignan (AT) tariffic (DOT) com

--
Geoff N. Hiten
Microsoft SQL Server MVP
Senior Database Administrator
Careerbuilder.com





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Philippe Carignan
 
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Default Re: Win 2k AE, SQL 2k EE, Clustering after 1 node failed after a hardware death - 01-15-2004 , 05:40 PM



Hmmm, I ran the setup on my Node2 (since Node1 failed),
and I don't see anything besides the Node2 in
the "Configured Nodes".

So my old Node1 should be properly evicted form SQL and
from MSCS.

Problem is, I still only see my newly built Node1
as "UNAVAILABLE".

I removed MSCS on Node1, reinstalled, to no avail. I added
my Node1 to my cluster's "Group", still, the new Node 1 is
always "Unavailable" when I run the SQL 2000 EE setup.

The only question I got left since everything seems fine,
should I physically see the two shared drivers I got on my
Fiber Aray in the Windows Explorer of both Node1 and Node2
at the same time? Don't cluster prevent the servers from
actually having the volumes mounted at the same time?

TIA.


P. Carignan


Quote:
-----Original Message-----
Answers Inline
"Philippe Carignan" <philippe.carignan (AT) tariffic (DOT) com
wrote in message
news:015901c3dadc$0520ecd0$a601280a (AT) phx (DOT) gbl...
Hi,

I got a problem with a cluster with SQL 2000 EE.

Had two servers, Win 2k Adv Ed., one of them died.
Failover to node 2 worked fine.

Bought some new hardware, installed Win 2k Adv. Ed.,
SP4,
MSCS.

I EVICTED the old server form the MSCS console from
node 2.

I did install the new server with the same computername
and IP adresses then the old, now dead, server.

When I try and run SQL 2k EE, I can't seem to install my
node. All seems well in Cluster Admin console. I see my
two nodes, the resources are all active on node 2 since
the failover.

When I start SQL 2k EE setup, it asks for my Virtual
Server, to which I answer with the name of the virtual
server on node 2 (should that be what I need to do?)

My questions:

1- I should see the Quorum and my Data partiton from my
Fiber Array on my new server, right? Problem is, I don't
see the partitions. That's a problem, right?
Yes. Until you can see the partitions you can go no
further.

2- Can someone please tell me what are the choices I got
to make during the SQL 2000 EE installation?
Did you run the SQL 2000 EE installation CD and remove
the dead node from
SQL? That is also a necessary step in addition to
evicting the node.

First - Virtual Server as the choice, and the name of my
clustered virtual server for the answer. NEXT

Next.
Second - Upgrade, Remove or Add? Or ADVANCED?

Advanced
Third - Going for ADVANCED at #2, only choice here is
MAINTAINS A VS FOR FAILOVER CLUSTERING

Yep.
Fourth - Ask for an IP, I got 1 choice in the bottom
box,
whihc is the IP of my virtual server. DO I need to enter
anything, or just click NEXT?

Next, this is just verifying things.
Fifth - In thie Cluster Management window, I see my
node 2
as a configured node, and I need to add some more. The
new
node, the server I am installing, is "UNAVAILABLE"...
What's wrong? Never got further than this.

This is where you need to remove the dead node. Only
after it is removed
from SQL can you add it back.


Thanks for the help.
No Problem.

P. Carignan
philippe.carignan (AT) tariffic (DOT) com


--
Geoff N. Hiten
Microsoft SQL Server MVP
Senior Database Administrator
Careerbuilder.com



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Geoff N. Hiten
 
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Default Re: Win 2k AE, SQL 2k EE, Clustering after 1 node failed after a hardware death - 01-16-2004 , 11:20 AM



You should see the clustered drives in Disk Manager on both systems. MSCS
will arbitrate ownership and only allow you to access a drive from its
current host node.

--
Geoff N. Hiten
Microsoft SQL Server MVP
Senior Database Administrator
Careerbuilder.com


"Philippe Carignan" <philippe.carignan (AT) tariffic (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Hmmm, I ran the setup on my Node2 (since Node1 failed),
and I don't see anything besides the Node2 in
the "Configured Nodes".

So my old Node1 should be properly evicted form SQL and
from MSCS.

Problem is, I still only see my newly built Node1
as "UNAVAILABLE".

I removed MSCS on Node1, reinstalled, to no avail. I added
my Node1 to my cluster's "Group", still, the new Node 1 is
always "Unavailable" when I run the SQL 2000 EE setup.

The only question I got left since everything seems fine,
should I physically see the two shared drivers I got on my
Fiber Aray in the Windows Explorer of both Node1 and Node2
at the same time? Don't cluster prevent the servers from
actually having the volumes mounted at the same time?

TIA.


P. Carignan


-----Original Message-----
Answers Inline
"Philippe Carignan" <philippe.carignan (AT) tariffic (DOT) com
wrote in message
news:015901c3dadc$0520ecd0$a601280a (AT) phx (DOT) gbl...
Hi,

I got a problem with a cluster with SQL 2000 EE.

Had two servers, Win 2k Adv Ed., one of them died.
Failover to node 2 worked fine.

Bought some new hardware, installed Win 2k Adv. Ed.,
SP4,
MSCS.

I EVICTED the old server form the MSCS console from
node 2.

I did install the new server with the same computername
and IP adresses then the old, now dead, server.

When I try and run SQL 2k EE, I can't seem to install my
node. All seems well in Cluster Admin console. I see my
two nodes, the resources are all active on node 2 since
the failover.

When I start SQL 2k EE setup, it asks for my Virtual
Server, to which I answer with the name of the virtual
server on node 2 (should that be what I need to do?)

My questions:

1- I should see the Quorum and my Data partiton from my
Fiber Array on my new server, right? Problem is, I don't
see the partitions. That's a problem, right?
Yes. Until you can see the partitions you can go no
further.

2- Can someone please tell me what are the choices I got
to make during the SQL 2000 EE installation?
Did you run the SQL 2000 EE installation CD and remove
the dead node from
SQL? That is also a necessary step in addition to
evicting the node.

First - Virtual Server as the choice, and the name of my
clustered virtual server for the answer. NEXT

Next.
Second - Upgrade, Remove or Add? Or ADVANCED?

Advanced
Third - Going for ADVANCED at #2, only choice here is
MAINTAINS A VS FOR FAILOVER CLUSTERING

Yep.
Fourth - Ask for an IP, I got 1 choice in the bottom
box,
whihc is the IP of my virtual server. DO I need to enter
anything, or just click NEXT?

Next, this is just verifying things.
Fifth - In thie Cluster Management window, I see my
node 2
as a configured node, and I need to add some more. The
new
node, the server I am installing, is "UNAVAILABLE"...
What's wrong? Never got further than this.

This is where you need to remove the dead node. Only
after it is removed
from SQL can you add it back.


Thanks for the help.
No Problem.

P. Carignan
philippe.carignan (AT) tariffic (DOT) com


--
Geoff N. Hiten
Microsoft SQL Server MVP
Senior Database Administrator
Careerbuilder.com



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P. Carignan
 
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Default Re: Win 2k AE, SQL 2k EE, Clustering after 1 node failed after a hardware death - 01-20-2004 , 03:54 PM



Hmmm, got a bit further in my tests, but still no go for
SQL.

If I remove MSCS on my replacement node (node 1's hardware
died), and I shutdown Node 2 (who took over when node 1
dies), I see my disks in Node 1.

When I reboot Node 2, it takes back the two shared disks I
got on an FC array.

Now I install MSCS on node 1.

All seems fine.

Trying to run the setup of SQL on node 2 (the up and
running node), I still fail to have my Node 1 as
an "available" server to add to the SQL cluster.

I see my rebuilt node 1 as "unavailable".

Should I have named my new node 1 something else than what
it was named originally?

I did Evict it from MSCS. And the SQL setup doesn't see my
old Node 1's name in the server list that would be
configured for my SQL cluster.

Anything I am missing?


TIA


P. Carignan

Quote:
-----Original Message-----
You should see the clustered drives in Disk Manager on
both systems. MSCS
will arbitrate ownership and only allow you to access a
drive from its
current host node.

--
Geoff N. Hiten
Microsoft SQL Server MVP
Senior Database Administrator
Careerbuilder.com


"Philippe Carignan" <philippe.carignan (AT) tariffic (DOT) com
wrote in message
news:04b601c3dbc0$fe0f5f90$a401280a (AT) phx (DOT) gbl...
Hmmm, I ran the setup on my Node2 (since Node1 failed),
and I don't see anything besides the Node2 in
the "Configured Nodes".

So my old Node1 should be properly evicted form SQL and
from MSCS.

Problem is, I still only see my newly built Node1
as "UNAVAILABLE".

I removed MSCS on Node1, reinstalled, to no avail. I
added
my Node1 to my cluster's "Group", still, the new Node 1
is
always "Unavailable" when I run the SQL 2000 EE setup.

The only question I got left since everything seems
fine,
should I physically see the two shared drivers I got on
my
Fiber Aray in the Windows Explorer of both Node1 and
Node2
at the same time? Don't cluster prevent the servers from
actually having the volumes mounted at the same time?

TIA.


P. Carignan


-----Original Message-----
Answers Inline
"Philippe Carignan" <philippe.carignan (AT) tariffic (DOT) com
wrote in message
news:015901c3dadc$0520ecd0$a601280a (AT) phx (DOT) gbl...
Hi,

I got a problem with a cluster with SQL 2000 EE.

Had two servers, Win 2k Adv Ed., one of them died.
Failover to node 2 worked fine.

Bought some new hardware, installed Win 2k Adv. Ed.,
SP4,
MSCS.

I EVICTED the old server form the MSCS console from
node 2.

I did install the new server with the same
computername
and IP adresses then the old, now dead, server.

When I try and run SQL 2k EE, I can't seem to
install my
node. All seems well in Cluster Admin console. I see
my
two nodes, the resources are all active on node 2
since
the failover.

When I start SQL 2k EE setup, it asks for my Virtual
Server, to which I answer with the name of the
virtual
server on node 2 (should that be what I need to do?)

My questions:

1- I should see the Quorum and my Data partiton from
my
Fiber Array on my new server, right? Problem is, I
don't
see the partitions. That's a problem, right?
Yes. Until you can see the partitions you can go no
further.

2- Can someone please tell me what are the choices I
got
to make during the SQL 2000 EE installation?
Did you run the SQL 2000 EE installation CD and remove
the dead node from
SQL? That is also a necessary step in addition to
evicting the node.

First - Virtual Server as the choice, and the name
of my
clustered virtual server for the answer. NEXT

Next.
Second - Upgrade, Remove or Add? Or ADVANCED?

Advanced
Third - Going for ADVANCED at #2, only choice here is
MAINTAINS A VS FOR FAILOVER CLUSTERING

Yep.
Fourth - Ask for an IP, I got 1 choice in the bottom
box,
whihc is the IP of my virtual server. DO I need to
enter
anything, or just click NEXT?

Next, this is just verifying things.
Fifth - In thie Cluster Management window, I see my
node 2
as a configured node, and I need to add some more.
The
new
node, the server I am installing, is "UNAVAILABLE"...
What's wrong? Never got further than this.

This is where you need to remove the dead node. Only
after it is removed
from SQL can you add it back.


Thanks for the help.
No Problem.

P. Carignan
philippe.carignan (AT) tariffic (DOT) com


--
Geoff N. Hiten
Microsoft SQL Server MVP
Senior Database Administrator
Careerbuilder.com



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Geoff N. Hiten
 
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Default Re: Win 2k AE, SQL 2k EE, Clustering after 1 node failed after a hardware death - 01-21-2004 , 09:23 AM



When you nuked the original Node1. did you remove the tombstone entry from
Active Directory?

"P. Carignan" <anonymous (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote

Quote:
Hmmm, got a bit further in my tests, but still no go for
SQL.

If I remove MSCS on my replacement node (node 1's hardware
died), and I shutdown Node 2 (who took over when node 1
dies), I see my disks in Node 1.

When I reboot Node 2, it takes back the two shared disks I
got on an FC array.

Now I install MSCS on node 1.

All seems fine.

Trying to run the setup of SQL on node 2 (the up and
running node), I still fail to have my Node 1 as
an "available" server to add to the SQL cluster.

I see my rebuilt node 1 as "unavailable".

Should I have named my new node 1 something else than what
it was named originally?

I did Evict it from MSCS. And the SQL setup doesn't see my
old Node 1's name in the server list that would be
configured for my SQL cluster.

Anything I am missing?


TIA


P. Carignan

-----Original Message-----
You should see the clustered drives in Disk Manager on
both systems. MSCS
will arbitrate ownership and only allow you to access a
drive from its
current host node.

--
Geoff N. Hiten
Microsoft SQL Server MVP
Senior Database Administrator
Careerbuilder.com


"Philippe Carignan" <philippe.carignan (AT) tariffic (DOT) com
wrote in message
news:04b601c3dbc0$fe0f5f90$a401280a (AT) phx (DOT) gbl...
Hmmm, I ran the setup on my Node2 (since Node1 failed),
and I don't see anything besides the Node2 in
the "Configured Nodes".

So my old Node1 should be properly evicted form SQL and
from MSCS.

Problem is, I still only see my newly built Node1
as "UNAVAILABLE".

I removed MSCS on Node1, reinstalled, to no avail. I
added
my Node1 to my cluster's "Group", still, the new Node 1
is
always "Unavailable" when I run the SQL 2000 EE setup.

The only question I got left since everything seems
fine,
should I physically see the two shared drivers I got on
my
Fiber Aray in the Windows Explorer of both Node1 and
Node2
at the same time? Don't cluster prevent the servers from
actually having the volumes mounted at the same time?

TIA.


P. Carignan


-----Original Message-----
Answers Inline
"Philippe Carignan" <philippe.carignan (AT) tariffic (DOT) com
wrote in message
news:015901c3dadc$0520ecd0$a601280a (AT) phx (DOT) gbl...
Hi,

I got a problem with a cluster with SQL 2000 EE.

Had two servers, Win 2k Adv Ed., one of them died.
Failover to node 2 worked fine.

Bought some new hardware, installed Win 2k Adv. Ed.,
SP4,
MSCS.

I EVICTED the old server form the MSCS console from
node 2.

I did install the new server with the same
computername
and IP adresses then the old, now dead, server.

When I try and run SQL 2k EE, I can't seem to
install my
node. All seems well in Cluster Admin console. I see
my
two nodes, the resources are all active on node 2
since
the failover.

When I start SQL 2k EE setup, it asks for my Virtual
Server, to which I answer with the name of the
virtual
server on node 2 (should that be what I need to do?)

My questions:

1- I should see the Quorum and my Data partiton from
my
Fiber Array on my new server, right? Problem is, I
don't
see the partitions. That's a problem, right?
Yes. Until you can see the partitions you can go no
further.

2- Can someone please tell me what are the choices I
got
to make during the SQL 2000 EE installation?
Did you run the SQL 2000 EE installation CD and remove
the dead node from
SQL? That is also a necessary step in addition to
evicting the node.

First - Virtual Server as the choice, and the name
of my
clustered virtual server for the answer. NEXT

Next.
Second - Upgrade, Remove or Add? Or ADVANCED?

Advanced
Third - Going for ADVANCED at #2, only choice here is
MAINTAINS A VS FOR FAILOVER CLUSTERING

Yep.
Fourth - Ask for an IP, I got 1 choice in the bottom
box,
whihc is the IP of my virtual server. DO I need to
enter
anything, or just click NEXT?

Next, this is just verifying things.
Fifth - In thie Cluster Management window, I see my
node 2
as a configured node, and I need to add some more.
The
new
node, the server I am installing, is "UNAVAILABLE"...
What's wrong? Never got further than this.

This is where you need to remove the dead node. Only
after it is removed
from SQL can you add it back.


Thanks for the help.
No Problem.

P. Carignan
philippe.carignan (AT) tariffic (DOT) com


--
Geoff N. Hiten
Microsoft SQL Server MVP
Senior Database Administrator
Careerbuilder.com



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P. Carignan
 
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Default Re: Win 2k AE, SQL 2k EE, Clustering after 1 node failed after a hardware death - 01-21-2004 , 03:06 PM



Hmmm, I didn't do that no.

You mean the computer account from AD?

I did rejoin the new Node1, with the same name, and all is
well with AD, I have normal access to shares and resources.


P. Carignan

Quote:
-----Original Message-----
When you nuked the original Node1. did you remove the
tombstone entry from
Active Directory?

"P. Carignan" <anonymous (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote
in message
news:170801c3df9f$f0532200$a601280a (AT) phx (DOT) gbl...
Hmmm, got a bit further in my tests, but still no go for
SQL.

If I remove MSCS on my replacement node (node 1's
hardware
died), and I shutdown Node 2 (who took over when node 1
dies), I see my disks in Node 1.

When I reboot Node 2, it takes back the two shared
disks I
got on an FC array.

Now I install MSCS on node 1.

All seems fine.

Trying to run the setup of SQL on node 2 (the up and
running node), I still fail to have my Node 1 as
an "available" server to add to the SQL cluster.

I see my rebuilt node 1 as "unavailable".

Should I have named my new node 1 something else than
what
it was named originally?

I did Evict it from MSCS. And the SQL setup doesn't see
my
old Node 1's name in the server list that would be
configured for my SQL cluster.

Anything I am missing?


TIA


P. Carignan

-----Original Message-----
You should see the clustered drives in Disk Manager on
both systems. MSCS
will arbitrate ownership and only allow you to access a
drive from its
current host node.

--
Geoff N. Hiten
Microsoft SQL Server MVP
Senior Database Administrator
Careerbuilder.com


"Philippe Carignan" <philippe.carignan (AT) tariffic (DOT) com
wrote in message
news:04b601c3dbc0$fe0f5f90$a401280a (AT) phx (DOT) gbl...
Hmmm, I ran the setup on my Node2 (since Node1
failed),
and I don't see anything besides the Node2 in
the "Configured Nodes".

So my old Node1 should be properly evicted form SQL
and
from MSCS.

Problem is, I still only see my newly built Node1
as "UNAVAILABLE".

I removed MSCS on Node1, reinstalled, to no avail. I
added
my Node1 to my cluster's "Group", still, the new
Node 1
is
always "Unavailable" when I run the SQL 2000 EE
setup.

The only question I got left since everything seems
fine,
should I physically see the two shared drivers I got
on
my
Fiber Aray in the Windows Explorer of both Node1 and
Node2
at the same time? Don't cluster prevent the servers
from
actually having the volumes mounted at the same time?

TIA.


P. Carignan


-----Original Message-----
Answers Inline
"Philippe Carignan" <philippe.carignan (AT) tariffic (DOT) com
wrote in message
news:015901c3dadc$0520ecd0$a601280a (AT) phx (DOT) gbl...
Hi,

I got a problem with a cluster with SQL 2000 EE.

Had two servers, Win 2k Adv Ed., one of them died.
Failover to node 2 worked fine.

Bought some new hardware, installed Win 2k Adv.
Ed.,
SP4,
MSCS.

I EVICTED the old server form the MSCS console
from
node 2.

I did install the new server with the same
computername
and IP adresses then the old, now dead, server.

When I try and run SQL 2k EE, I can't seem to
install my
node. All seems well in Cluster Admin console. I
see
my
two nodes, the resources are all active on node 2
since
the failover.

When I start SQL 2k EE setup, it asks for my
Virtual
Server, to which I answer with the name of the
virtual
server on node 2 (should that be what I need to
do?)

My questions:

1- I should see the Quorum and my Data partiton
from
my
Fiber Array on my new server, right? Problem is, I
don't
see the partitions. That's a problem, right?
Yes. Until you can see the partitions you can go no
further.

2- Can someone please tell me what are the
choices I
got
to make during the SQL 2000 EE installation?
Did you run the SQL 2000 EE installation CD and
remove
the dead node from
SQL? That is also a necessary step in addition to
evicting the node.

First - Virtual Server as the choice, and the name
of my
clustered virtual server for the answer. NEXT

Next.
Second - Upgrade, Remove or Add? Or ADVANCED?

Advanced
Third - Going for ADVANCED at #2, only choice
here is
MAINTAINS A VS FOR FAILOVER CLUSTERING

Yep.
Fourth - Ask for an IP, I got 1 choice in the
bottom
box,
whihc is the IP of my virtual server. DO I need to
enter
anything, or just click NEXT?

Next, this is just verifying things.
Fifth - In thie Cluster Management window, I see
my
node 2
as a configured node, and I need to add some more.
The
new
node, the server I am installing,
is "UNAVAILABLE"...
What's wrong? Never got further than this.

This is where you need to remove the dead node.
Only
after it is removed
from SQL can you add it back.


Thanks for the help.
No Problem.

P. Carignan
philippe.carignan (AT) tariffic (DOT) com


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Default Re: Win 2k AE, SQL 2k EE, Clustering after 1 node failed after a hardware death - 01-21-2004 , 03:36 PM



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"P. Carignan" <anonymous (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote

Quote:
Hmmm, I didn't do that no.

You mean the computer account from AD?

Yep. Sometimes AD can be a bit flakey when a member server dies and comes
back with all new info, but a different SID.

Quote:
I did rejoin the new Node1, with the same name, and all is
well with AD, I have normal access to shares and resources.

Can you create a disk resource and move it back and forth between the nodes?

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Microsoft SQL Server MVP
Senior Database Administrator
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Quote:
P. Carignan

-----Original Message-----
When you nuked the original Node1. did you remove the
tombstone entry from
Active Directory?

"P. Carignan" <anonymous (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote
in message
news:170801c3df9f$f0532200$a601280a (AT) phx (DOT) gbl...
Hmmm, got a bit further in my tests, but still no go for
SQL.

If I remove MSCS on my replacement node (node 1's
hardware
died), and I shutdown Node 2 (who took over when node 1
dies), I see my disks in Node 1.

When I reboot Node 2, it takes back the two shared
disks I
got on an FC array.

Now I install MSCS on node 1.

All seems fine.

Trying to run the setup of SQL on node 2 (the up and
running node), I still fail to have my Node 1 as
an "available" server to add to the SQL cluster.

I see my rebuilt node 1 as "unavailable".

Should I have named my new node 1 something else than
what
it was named originally?

I did Evict it from MSCS. And the SQL setup doesn't see
my
old Node 1's name in the server list that would be
configured for my SQL cluster.

Anything I am missing?


TIA


P. Carignan

-----Original Message-----
You should see the clustered drives in Disk Manager on
both systems. MSCS
will arbitrate ownership and only allow you to access a
drive from its
current host node.

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Microsoft SQL Server MVP
Senior Database Administrator
Careerbuilder.com


"Philippe Carignan" <philippe.carignan (AT) tariffic (DOT) com
wrote in message
news:04b601c3dbc0$fe0f5f90$a401280a (AT) phx (DOT) gbl...
Hmmm, I ran the setup on my Node2 (since Node1
failed),
and I don't see anything besides the Node2 in
the "Configured Nodes".

So my old Node1 should be properly evicted form SQL
and
from MSCS.

Problem is, I still only see my newly built Node1
as "UNAVAILABLE".

I removed MSCS on Node1, reinstalled, to no avail. I
added
my Node1 to my cluster's "Group", still, the new
Node 1
is
always "Unavailable" when I run the SQL 2000 EE
setup.

The only question I got left since everything seems
fine,
should I physically see the two shared drivers I got
on
my
Fiber Aray in the Windows Explorer of both Node1 and
Node2
at the same time? Don't cluster prevent the servers
from
actually having the volumes mounted at the same time?

TIA.


P. Carignan


-----Original Message-----
Answers Inline
"Philippe Carignan" <philippe.carignan (AT) tariffic (DOT) com
wrote in message
news:015901c3dadc$0520ecd0$a601280a (AT) phx (DOT) gbl...
Hi,

I got a problem with a cluster with SQL 2000 EE.

Had two servers, Win 2k Adv Ed., one of them died.
Failover to node 2 worked fine.

Bought some new hardware, installed Win 2k Adv.
Ed.,
SP4,
MSCS.

I EVICTED the old server form the MSCS console
from
node 2.

I did install the new server with the same
computername
and IP adresses then the old, now dead, server.

When I try and run SQL 2k EE, I can't seem to
install my
node. All seems well in Cluster Admin console. I
see
my
two nodes, the resources are all active on node 2
since
the failover.

When I start SQL 2k EE setup, it asks for my
Virtual
Server, to which I answer with the name of the
virtual
server on node 2 (should that be what I need to
do?)

My questions:

1- I should see the Quorum and my Data partiton
from
my
Fiber Array on my new server, right? Problem is, I
don't
see the partitions. That's a problem, right?
Yes. Until you can see the partitions you can go no
further.

2- Can someone please tell me what are the
choices I
got
to make during the SQL 2000 EE installation?
Did you run the SQL 2000 EE installation CD and
remove
the dead node from
SQL? That is also a necessary step in addition to
evicting the node.

First - Virtual Server as the choice, and the name
of my
clustered virtual server for the answer. NEXT

Next.
Second - Upgrade, Remove or Add? Or ADVANCED?

Advanced
Third - Going for ADVANCED at #2, only choice
here is
MAINTAINS A VS FOR FAILOVER CLUSTERING

Yep.
Fourth - Ask for an IP, I got 1 choice in the
bottom
box,
whihc is the IP of my virtual server. DO I need to
enter
anything, or just click NEXT?

Next, this is just verifying things.
Fifth - In thie Cluster Management window, I see
my
node 2
as a configured node, and I need to add some more.
The
new
node, the server I am installing,
is "UNAVAILABLE"...
What's wrong? Never got further than this.

This is where you need to remove the dead node.
Only
after it is removed
from SQL can you add it back.


Thanks for the help.
No Problem.

P. Carignan
philippe.carignan (AT) tariffic (DOT) com


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Microsoft SQL Server MVP
Senior Database Administrator
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Default Re: Win 2k AE, SQL 2k EE, Clustering after 1 node failed after a hardware death - 01-25-2004 , 11:39 PM



Hi,

I can't create a new disk resource, because I do not have
any more HD to spare on the cluster. I tried moving a
group, but to no avail. I tried moving the Quorum disk,
and I got an error. Seems the dependencies are all screwed
up, and everything depends on everything else. And since I
do not have SQL on the new Node1, I don't want to move
everything and risk screwing something, and having
downtime.

I'll try and rename the server for Node1, and join the
cluster again. Maybe it's an old conflict with the ex-
Node1's name?


P. Carignan



Quote:
-----Original Message-----
Inline
"P. Carignan" <anonymous (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote
in message
news:185601c3e062$663ebbb0$a301280a (AT) phx (DOT) gbl...
Hmmm, I didn't do that no.

You mean the computer account from AD?

Yep. Sometimes AD can be a bit flakey when a member
server dies and comes
back with all new info, but a different SID.

I did rejoin the new Node1, with the same name, and all
is
well with AD, I have normal access to shares and
resources.

Can you create a disk resource and move it back and forth
between the nodes?

--
Geoff N. Hiten
Microsoft SQL Server MVP
Senior Database Administrator
Careerbuilder.com



P. Carignan

-----Original Message-----
When you nuked the original Node1. did you remove the
tombstone entry from
Active Directory?

"P. Carignan" <anonymous (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com
wrote
in message
news:170801c3df9f$f0532200$a601280a (AT) phx (DOT) gbl...
Hmmm, got a bit further in my tests, but still no go
for
SQL.

If I remove MSCS on my replacement node (node 1's
hardware
died), and I shutdown Node 2 (who took over when
node 1
dies), I see my disks in Node 1.

When I reboot Node 2, it takes back the two shared
disks I
got on an FC array.

Now I install MSCS on node 1.

All seems fine.

Trying to run the setup of SQL on node 2 (the up and
running node), I still fail to have my Node 1 as
an "available" server to add to the SQL cluster.

I see my rebuilt node 1 as "unavailable".

Should I have named my new node 1 something else than
what
it was named originally?

I did Evict it from MSCS. And the SQL setup doesn't
see
my
old Node 1's name in the server list that would be
configured for my SQL cluster.

Anything I am missing?


TIA


P. Carignan

-----Original Message-----
You should see the clustered drives in Disk Manager
on
both systems. MSCS
will arbitrate ownership and only allow you to
access a
drive from its
current host node.

--
Geoff N. Hiten
Microsoft SQL Server MVP
Senior Database Administrator
Careerbuilder.com


"Philippe Carignan" <philippe.carignan (AT) tariffic (DOT) com
wrote in message
news:04b601c3dbc0$fe0f5f90$a401280a (AT) phx (DOT) gbl...
Hmmm, I ran the setup on my Node2 (since Node1
failed),
and I don't see anything besides the Node2 in
the "Configured Nodes".

So my old Node1 should be properly evicted form
SQL
and
from MSCS.

Problem is, I still only see my newly built Node1
as "UNAVAILABLE".

I removed MSCS on Node1, reinstalled, to no
avail. I
added
my Node1 to my cluster's "Group", still, the new
Node 1
is
always "Unavailable" when I run the SQL 2000 EE
setup.

The only question I got left since everything
seems
fine,
should I physically see the two shared drivers I
got
on
my
Fiber Aray in the Windows Explorer of both Node1
and
Node2
at the same time? Don't cluster prevent the
servers
from
actually having the volumes mounted at the same
time?

TIA.


P. Carignan


-----Original Message-----
Answers Inline
"Philippe Carignan"
philippe.carignan (AT) tariffic (DOT) com
wrote in message
news:015901c3dadc$0520ecd0$a601280a (AT) phx (DOT) gbl...
Hi,

I got a problem with a cluster with SQL 2000
EE.

Had two servers, Win 2k Adv Ed., one of them
died.
Failover to node 2 worked fine.

Bought some new hardware, installed Win 2k Adv.
Ed.,
SP4,
MSCS.

I EVICTED the old server form the MSCS console
from
node 2.

I did install the new server with the same
computername
and IP adresses then the old, now dead, server.

When I try and run SQL 2k EE, I can't seem to
install my
node. All seems well in Cluster Admin console.
I
see
my
two nodes, the resources are all active on
node 2
since
the failover.

When I start SQL 2k EE setup, it asks for my
Virtual
Server, to which I answer with the name of the
virtual
server on node 2 (should that be what I need to
do?)

My questions:

1- I should see the Quorum and my Data partiton
from
my
Fiber Array on my new server, right? Problem
is, I
don't
see the partitions. That's a problem, right?
Yes. Until you can see the partitions you can
go no
further.

2- Can someone please tell me what are the
choices I
got
to make during the SQL 2000 EE installation?
Did you run the SQL 2000 EE installation CD and
remove
the dead node from
SQL? That is also a necessary step in addition
to
evicting the node.

First - Virtual Server as the choice, and the
name
of my
clustered virtual server for the answer. NEXT

Next.
Second - Upgrade, Remove or Add? Or ADVANCED?

Advanced
Third - Going for ADVANCED at #2, only choice
here is
MAINTAINS A VS FOR FAILOVER CLUSTERING

Yep.
Fourth - Ask for an IP, I got 1 choice in the
bottom
box,
whihc is the IP of my virtual server. DO I
need to
enter
anything, or just click NEXT?

Next, this is just verifying things.
Fifth - In thie Cluster Management window, I
see
my
node 2
as a configured node, and I need to add some
more.
The
new
node, the server I am installing,
is "UNAVAILABLE"...
What's wrong? Never got further than this.

This is where you need to remove the dead node.
Only
after it is removed
from SQL can you add it back.


Thanks for the help.
No Problem.

P. Carignan
philippe.carignan (AT) tariffic (DOT) com


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Microsoft SQL Server MVP
Senior Database Administrator
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Default Re: Win 2k AE, SQL 2k EE, Clustering after 1 node failed after a hardware death - 01-28-2004 , 03:26 PM



Resolution to my problem:

Seems like my SQL cluster was still remembering the old
Node1 I had that crashed in the cluster. I uninstalled
MSCS from the new Node1, renamed it to "Node3" (instead of
using the old Node1's server name), reinstalled MSCS, now
SQL setup was letting me add the node the the SQL cluster.
All is fine since then.


Thanks for the tips that led me to the solution.


P. Carignan

Quote:
-----Original Message-----
Hi,

I can't create a new disk resource, because I do not have
any more HD to spare on the cluster. I tried moving a
group, but to no avail. I tried moving the Quorum disk,
and I got an error. Seems the dependencies are all
screwed
up, and everything depends on everything else. And since
I
do not have SQL on the new Node1, I don't want to move
everything and risk screwing something, and having
downtime.

I'll try and rename the server for Node1, and join the
cluster again. Maybe it's an old conflict with the ex-
Node1's name?


P. Carignan



-----Original Message-----
Inline
"P. Carignan" <anonymous (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com
wrote
in message
news:185601c3e062$663ebbb0$a301280a (AT) phx (DOT) gbl...
Hmmm, I didn't do that no.

You mean the computer account from AD?

Yep. Sometimes AD can be a bit flakey when a member
server dies and comes
back with all new info, but a different SID.

I did rejoin the new Node1, with the same name, and
all
is
well with AD, I have normal access to shares and
resources.

Can you create a disk resource and move it back and
forth
between the nodes?

--
Geoff N. Hiten
Microsoft SQL Server MVP
Senior Database Administrator
Careerbuilder.com



P. Carignan

-----Original Message-----
When you nuked the original Node1. did you remove the
tombstone entry from
Active Directory?

"P. Carignan" <anonymous (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com
wrote
in message
news:170801c3df9f$f0532200$a601280a (AT) phx (DOT) gbl...
Hmmm, got a bit further in my tests, but still no
go
for
SQL.

If I remove MSCS on my replacement node (node 1's
hardware
died), and I shutdown Node 2 (who took over when
node 1
dies), I see my disks in Node 1.

When I reboot Node 2, it takes back the two shared
disks I
got on an FC array.

Now I install MSCS on node 1.

All seems fine.

Trying to run the setup of SQL on node 2 (the up and
running node), I still fail to have my Node 1 as
an "available" server to add to the SQL cluster.

I see my rebuilt node 1 as "unavailable".

Should I have named my new node 1 something else
than
what
it was named originally?

I did Evict it from MSCS. And the SQL setup doesn't
see
my
old Node 1's name in the server list that would be
configured for my SQL cluster.

Anything I am missing?


TIA


P. Carignan

-----Original Message-----
You should see the clustered drives in Disk
Manager
on
both systems. MSCS
will arbitrate ownership and only allow you to
access a
drive from its
current host node.

--
Geoff N. Hiten
Microsoft SQL Server MVP
Senior Database Administrator
Careerbuilder.com


"Philippe Carignan"
philippe.carignan (AT) tariffic (DOT) com
wrote in message
news:04b601c3dbc0$fe0f5f90$a401280a (AT) phx (DOT) gbl...
Hmmm, I ran the setup on my Node2 (since Node1
failed),
and I don't see anything besides the Node2 in
the "Configured Nodes".

So my old Node1 should be properly evicted form
SQL
and
from MSCS.

Problem is, I still only see my newly built Node1
as "UNAVAILABLE".

I removed MSCS on Node1, reinstalled, to no
avail. I
added
my Node1 to my cluster's "Group", still, the new
Node 1
is
always "Unavailable" when I run the SQL 2000 EE
setup.

The only question I got left since everything
seems
fine,
should I physically see the two shared drivers I
got
on
my
Fiber Aray in the Windows Explorer of both Node1
and
Node2
at the same time? Don't cluster prevent the
servers
from
actually having the volumes mounted at the same
time?

TIA.


P. Carignan


-----Original Message-----
Answers Inline
"Philippe Carignan"
philippe.carignan (AT) tariffic (DOT) com
wrote in message
news:015901c3dadc$0520ecd0$a601280a (AT) phx (DOT) gbl...
Hi,

I got a problem with a cluster with SQL 2000
EE.

Had two servers, Win 2k Adv Ed., one of them
died.
Failover to node 2 worked fine.

Bought some new hardware, installed Win 2k
Adv.
Ed.,
SP4,
MSCS.

I EVICTED the old server form the MSCS console
from
node 2.

I did install the new server with the same
computername
and IP adresses then the old, now dead,
server.

When I try and run SQL 2k EE, I can't seem to
install my
node. All seems well in Cluster Admin
console.
I
see
my
two nodes, the resources are all active on
node 2
since
the failover.

When I start SQL 2k EE setup, it asks for my
Virtual
Server, to which I answer with the name of the
virtual
server on node 2 (should that be what I need
to
do?)

My questions:

1- I should see the Quorum and my Data
partiton
from
my
Fiber Array on my new server, right? Problem
is, I
don't
see the partitions. That's a problem, right?
Yes. Until you can see the partitions you can
go no
further.

2- Can someone please tell me what are the
choices I
got
to make during the SQL 2000 EE installation?
Did you run the SQL 2000 EE installation CD and
remove
the dead node from
SQL? That is also a necessary step in addition
to
evicting the node.

First - Virtual Server as the choice, and the
name
of my
clustered virtual server for the answer. NEXT

Next.
Second - Upgrade, Remove or Add? Or ADVANCED?

Advanced
Third - Going for ADVANCED at #2, only choice
here is
MAINTAINS A VS FOR FAILOVER CLUSTERING

Yep.
Fourth - Ask for an IP, I got 1 choice in the
bottom
box,
whihc is the IP of my virtual server. DO I
need to
enter
anything, or just click NEXT?

Next, this is just verifying things.
Fifth - In thie Cluster Management window, I
see
my
node 2
as a configured node, and I need to add some
more.
The
new
node, the server I am installing,
is "UNAVAILABLE"...
What's wrong? Never got further than this.

This is where you need to remove the dead node.
Only
after it is removed
from SQL can you add it back.


Thanks for the help.
No Problem.

P. Carignan
philippe.carignan (AT) tariffic (DOT) com


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