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Hi, I am getting the above error on the production box which has SQL 2000, sp3a build 8.00.780 with AWE and PAE enabled and SQL Server (Active/Passive Cluster) has been allocated 7GB out of the total 8GB on the box.SQL Server froze for almost 10 minutes and it came back fine after that.But things started slowing down after that.But this is the first time we are getting this error since we went live since March 2004.I did see an Article Id : 316749 which says it ran out of Virtual address space. My question is 1) Has anybody had this problem before and had to change the -g switch ? 2) Is this some kind of Memory leak ? 3) Is there anything that i have to specifically monitor on the perfmon counters in addition to (Pages/sec,CPU,Disk Queue Length,Total Server Memory,Target Server Memory) before i could anticipate this kind of situation ? Thanks for all your help |
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Try reducing memory allocated for SQL to 6GB. Are you running anything else on the SQL host computer besides SQL server that may consume memory or any external xps. I doubt it is a memory leak in SQL, but it may be a memory fragmentation issue. You may want to bring SQL up to build 818, which is the latest security update. It may not help your problem, but it may avoid other issues. If this continues, you may want to open a case with Product Support Services. They have some really good diagnostic tools to find out what is happening with a not-so-perfect server. -- Geoff N. Hiten Microsoft SQL Server MVP Senior Database Administrator Careerbuilder.com I support the Professional Association for SQL Server www.sqlpass.org "kneel" <kvatsan (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote in message news:esYOaIBJFHA.2936 (AT) TK2MSFTNGP15 (DOT) phx.gbl... Hi, I am getting the above error on the production box which has SQL 2000, sp3a build 8.00.780 with AWE and PAE enabled and SQL Server (Active/Passive Cluster) has been allocated 7GB out of the total 8GB on the box.SQL Server froze for almost 10 minutes and it came back fine after that.But things started slowing down after that.But this is the first time we are getting this error since we went live since March 2004.I did see an Article Id : 316749 which says it ran out of Virtual address space. My question is 1) Has anybody had this problem before and had to change the -g switch ? 2) Is this some kind of Memory leak ? 3) Is there anything that i have to specifically monitor on the perfmon counters in addition to (Pages/sec,CPU,Disk Queue Length,Total Server Memory,Target Server Memory) before i could anticipate this kind of situation ? Thanks for all your help |
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Thanks Geoff..This is a dedicated SQL Server box..But they do have the Tape backup software (Galaxy) and also HP's open view (which has been disabled for a long time) running on this box..BTW going to build 818 is really not an option..Maybe if it happens again then we were thinking about opening up a case with Microsoft..I was also monitoring the pages/sec counter and there was absolutely no paging at all.I thought leaving 1GB for other applications on a dedicated SQL Server box should be good enough. Thanks, "Geoff N. Hiten" <SQLCraftsman (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:uNRKh%23EJFHA.1176 (AT) TK2MSFTNGP15 (DOT) phx.gbl... Try reducing memory allocated for SQL to 6GB. Are you running anything else on the SQL host computer besides SQL server that may consume memory or any external xps. I doubt it is a memory leak in SQL, but it may be a memory fragmentation issue. You may want to bring SQL up to build 818, which is the latest security update. It may not help your problem, but it may avoid other issues. If this continues, you may want to open a case with Product Support Services. They have some really good diagnostic tools to find out what is happening with a not-so-perfect server. -- Geoff N. Hiten Microsoft SQL Server MVP Senior Database Administrator Careerbuilder.com I support the Professional Association for SQL Server www.sqlpass.org "kneel" <kvatsan (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote in message news:esYOaIBJFHA.2936 (AT) TK2MSFTNGP15 (DOT) phx.gbl... Hi, I am getting the above error on the production box which has SQL 2000, sp3a build 8.00.780 with AWE and PAE enabled and SQL Server (Active/Passive Cluster) has been allocated 7GB out of the total 8GB on the box.SQL Server froze for almost 10 minutes and it came back fine after that.But things started slowing down after that.But this is the first time we are getting this error since we went live since March 2004.I did see an Article Id : 316749 which says it ran out of Virtual address space. My question is 1) Has anybody had this problem before and had to change the -g switch ? 2) Is this some kind of Memory leak ? 3) Is there anything that i have to specifically monitor on the perfmon counters in addition to (Pages/sec,CPU,Disk Queue Length,Total Server Memory,Target Server Memory) before i could anticipate this kind of situation ? Thanks for all your help |
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The tape backup software is going to want a lot of IO buffer space. I would definitely lower the allocated memory to 56GB and see what happens. I understand about strict policies on patching, but my personal philosophy is any potential instabilities are less likely than a security problem caused by NOT patching. -- Geoff N. Hiten Microsoft SQL Server MVP Senior Database Administrator Careerbuilder.com I support the Professional Association for SQL Server www.sqlpass.org "Karthik" <kvatsan (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote in message news:OO0fZkFJFHA.2132 (AT) TK2MSFTNGP14 (DOT) phx.gbl... Thanks Geoff..This is a dedicated SQL Server box..But they do have the Tape backup software (Galaxy) and also HP's open view (which has been disabled for a long time) running on this box..BTW going to build 818 is really not an option..Maybe if it happens again then we were thinking about opening up a case with Microsoft..I was also monitoring the pages/sec counter and there was absolutely no paging at all.I thought leaving 1GB for other applications on a dedicated SQL Server box should be good enough. Thanks, "Geoff N. Hiten" <SQLCraftsman (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:uNRKh%23EJFHA.1176 (AT) TK2MSFTNGP15 (DOT) phx.gbl... Try reducing memory allocated for SQL to 6GB. Are you running anything else on the SQL host computer besides SQL server that may consume memory or any external xps. I doubt it is a memory leak in SQL, but it may be a memory fragmentation issue. You may want to bring SQL up to build 818, which is the latest security update. It may not help your problem, but it may avoid other issues. If this continues, you may want to open a case with Product Support Services. They have some really good diagnostic tools to find out what is happening with a not-so-perfect server. -- Geoff N. Hiten Microsoft SQL Server MVP Senior Database Administrator Careerbuilder.com I support the Professional Association for SQL Server www.sqlpass.org "kneel" <kvatsan (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote in message news:esYOaIBJFHA.2936 (AT) TK2MSFTNGP15 (DOT) phx.gbl... Hi, I am getting the above error on the production box which has SQL 2000, sp3a build 8.00.780 with AWE and PAE enabled and SQL Server (Active/Passive Cluster) has been allocated 7GB out of the total 8GB on the box.SQL Server froze for almost 10 minutes and it came back fine after that.But things started slowing down after that.But this is the first time we are getting this error since we went live since March 2004.I did see an Article Id : 316749 which says it ran out of Virtual address space. My question is 1) Has anybody had this problem before and had to change the -g switch ? 2) Is this some kind of Memory leak ? 3) Is there anything that i have to specifically monitor on the perfmon counters in addition to (Pages/sec,CPU,Disk Queue Length,Total Server Memory,Target Server Memory) before i could anticipate this kind of situation ? Thanks for all your help |
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Thanks Geoff..This is a dedicated SQL Server box..But they do have the Tape backup software (Galaxy) and also HP's open view (which has been disabled for a long time) running on this box..BTW going to build 818 is really not an option..Maybe if it happens again then we were thinking about opening up a case with Microsoft..I was also monitoring the pages/sec counter and there was absolutely no paging at all.I thought leaving 1GB for other applications on a dedicated SQL Server box should be good enough. Thanks, "Geoff N. Hiten" <SQLCraftsman (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:uNRKh%23EJFHA.1176 (AT) TK2MSFTNGP15 (DOT) phx.gbl... Try reducing memory allocated for SQL to 6GB. Are you running anything else on the SQL host computer besides SQL server that may consume memory or any external xps. I doubt it is a memory leak in SQL, but it may be a memory fragmentation issue. You may want to bring SQL up to build 818, which is the latest security update. It may not help your problem, but it may avoid other issues. If this continues, you may want to open a case with Product Support Services. They have some really good diagnostic tools to find out what is happening with a not-so-perfect server. -- Geoff N. Hiten Microsoft SQL Server MVP Senior Database Administrator Careerbuilder.com I support the Professional Association for SQL Server www.sqlpass.org "kneel" <kvatsan (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote in message news:esYOaIBJFHA.2936 (AT) TK2MSFTNGP15 (DOT) phx.gbl... Hi, I am getting the above error on the production box which has SQL 2000, sp3a build 8.00.780 with AWE and PAE enabled and SQL Server (Active/Passive Cluster) has been allocated 7GB out of the total 8GB on the box.SQL Server froze for almost 10 minutes and it came back fine after that.But things started slowing down after that.But this is the first time we are getting this error since we went live since March 2004.I did see an Article Id : 316749 which says it ran out of Virtual address space. My question is 1) Has anybody had this problem before and had to change the -g switch ? 2) Is this some kind of Memory leak ? 3) Is there anything that i have to specifically monitor on the perfmon counters in addition to (Pages/sec,CPU,Disk Queue Length,Total Server Memory,Target Server Memory) before i could anticipate this kind of situation ? Thanks for all your help |
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We have encountered a similar problem lately with the same error message plus a few more. We are being put through the same exercise of installing the standard troubleshooting/disgnostic tools, and wait for the problem to occur again so that more info can be captured for Microsoft. But the prime suspect is the fragmentation in MemToLeave. Also, we had problems with a certain tape backup system causing memory issues. So I wouldn't rule out the tape backup software easily. But you should really engage Microsoft support in this case. By the way, I don't think it had anything to do with SQL clustering. Linchi "Karthik" <kvatsan (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote in message news:OO0fZkFJFHA.2132 (AT) TK2MSFTNGP14 (DOT) phx.gbl... Thanks Geoff..This is a dedicated SQL Server box..But they do have the Tape backup software (Galaxy) and also HP's open view (which has been disabled for a long time) running on this box..BTW going to build 818 is really not an option..Maybe if it happens again then we were thinking about opening up a case with Microsoft..I was also monitoring the pages/sec counter and there was absolutely no paging at all.I thought leaving 1GB for other applications on a dedicated SQL Server box should be good enough. Thanks, "Geoff N. Hiten" <SQLCraftsman (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:uNRKh%23EJFHA.1176 (AT) TK2MSFTNGP15 (DOT) phx.gbl... Try reducing memory allocated for SQL to 6GB. Are you running anything else on the SQL host computer besides SQL server that may consume memory or any external xps. I doubt it is a memory leak in SQL, but it may be a memory fragmentation issue. You may want to bring SQL up to build 818, which is the latest security update. It may not help your problem, but it may avoid other issues. If this continues, you may want to open a case with Product Support Services. They have some really good diagnostic tools to find out what is happening with a not-so-perfect server. -- Geoff N. Hiten Microsoft SQL Server MVP Senior Database Administrator Careerbuilder.com I support the Professional Association for SQL Server www.sqlpass.org "kneel" <kvatsan (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote in message news:esYOaIBJFHA.2936 (AT) TK2MSFTNGP15 (DOT) phx.gbl... Hi, I am getting the above error on the production box which has SQL 2000, sp3a build 8.00.780 with AWE and PAE enabled and SQL Server (Active/Passive Cluster) has been allocated 7GB out of the total 8GB on the box.SQL Server froze for almost 10 minutes and it came back fine after that.But things started slowing down after that.But this is the first time we are getting this error since we went live since March 2004.I did see an Article Id : 316749 which says it ran out of Virtual address space. My question is 1) Has anybody had this problem before and had to change the -g switch ? 2) Is this some kind of Memory leak ? 3) Is there anything that i have to specifically monitor on the perfmon counters in addition to (Pages/sec,CPU,Disk Queue Length,Total Server Memory,Target Server Memory) before i could anticipate this kind of situation ? Thanks for all your help |
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Thanks Linchi..It hasnt happened since then..The tape backup software doesnt run for us in the mornings and we also have shutdown the HP's Openview which i have never liked it from the beginning. Coming back to Memtoleave area did they tell you what would cause the fragmentation to happen.Did they talk anything about using -g parameter as startup ? Just wondering. Thanks "Linchi Shea" <linchi_shea (AT) NOSPAM (DOT) ml.com> wrote in message news:OWo5TwTJFHA.1360 (AT) TK2MSFTNGP10 (DOT) phx.gbl... We have encountered a similar problem lately with the same error message plus a few more. We are being put through the same exercise of installing the standard troubleshooting/disgnostic tools, and wait for the problem to occur again so that more info can be captured for Microsoft. But the prime suspect is the fragmentation in MemToLeave. Also, we had problems with a certain tape backup system causing memory issues. So I wouldn't rule out the tape backup software easily. But you should really engage Microsoft support in this case. By the way, I don't think it had anything to do with SQL clustering. Linchi "Karthik" <kvatsan (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote in message news:OO0fZkFJFHA.2132 (AT) TK2MSFTNGP14 (DOT) phx.gbl... Thanks Geoff..This is a dedicated SQL Server box..But they do have the Tape backup software (Galaxy) and also HP's open view (which has been disabled for a long time) running on this box..BTW going to build 818 is really not an option..Maybe if it happens again then we were thinking about opening up a case with Microsoft..I was also monitoring the pages/sec counter and there was absolutely no paging at all.I thought leaving 1GB for other applications on a dedicated SQL Server box should be good enough. Thanks, "Geoff N. Hiten" <SQLCraftsman (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:uNRKh%23EJFHA.1176 (AT) TK2MSFTNGP15 (DOT) phx.gbl... Try reducing memory allocated for SQL to 6GB. Are you running anything else on the SQL host computer besides SQL server that may consume memory or any external xps. I doubt it is a memory leak in SQL, but it may be a memory fragmentation issue. You may want to bring SQL up to build 818, which is the latest security update. It may not help your problem, but it may avoid other issues. If this continues, you may want to open a case with Product Support Services. They have some really good diagnostic tools to find out what is happening with a not-so-perfect server. -- Geoff N. Hiten Microsoft SQL Server MVP Senior Database Administrator Careerbuilder.com I support the Professional Association for SQL Server www.sqlpass.org "kneel" <kvatsan (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote in message news:esYOaIBJFHA.2936 (AT) TK2MSFTNGP15 (DOT) phx.gbl... Hi, I am getting the above error on the production box which has SQL 2000, sp3a build 8.00.780 with AWE and PAE enabled and SQL Server (Active/Passive Cluster) has been allocated 7GB out of the total 8GB on the box.SQL Server froze for almost 10 minutes and it came back fine after that.But things started slowing down after that.But this is the first time we are getting this error since we went live since March 2004.I did see an Article Id : 316749 which says it ran out of Virtual address space. My question is 1) Has anybody had this problem before and had to change the -g switch ? 2) Is this some kind of Memory leak ? 3) Is there anything that i have to specifically monitor on the perfmon counters in addition to (Pages/sec,CPU,Disk Queue Length,Total Server Memory,Target Server Memory) before i could anticipate this kind of situation ? Thanks for all your help |
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