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Default SQL Clustering Options - 02-22-2005 , 09:03 PM






I have read that SQL Server with MSCS supports an Active/Active setup
via a NAS, however, DOES NOT support and Active/Active setup via a SAN. Can
anyone shed light on this? Any support documentation that would help would be
great! Thank you.

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Default Re: SQL Clustering Options - 02-22-2005 , 09:23 PM






Can't point you to any doco off the top of my head, but I can say
definitively that SQL 2000 running on an MSCS cluster can indeed talk to
a SAN regardless of how many SQL instances you have on your cluster.
Typically people either have a single instance (which most people refer
to as "active/passive") or 2 instances (which most people refer to as
"active/active") that they try to keep on separate nodes of the
cluster. But you could have up to 16 instances running on a single
cluster node - the number of instances doesn't really matter.

Basically, all cluster aware SQL server needs is a shared disk to write
data (& log) files to. Whether this is a NAS device or a SAN device is
irrelevant to SQL server - that's managed by MSCS, not SQL. We've been
running several "active/active" SQL clusters on top of MSCS talking to
both HP & EMC SANs (as well as HP & Dell NAS arrays) for over 4 years
now. It all works fine.

As I said I don't have doco on it but I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard
to find cruising around the Microsoft website.

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TABMCSE wrote:

Quote:
I have read that SQL Server with MSCS supports an Active/Active setup
via a NAS, however, DOES NOT support and Active/Active setup via a SAN. Can
anyone shed light on this? Any support documentation that would help would be
great! Thank you.




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Mike Epprecht (SQL MVP)
 
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Default Re: SQL Clustering Options - 02-23-2005 , 03:15 AM



Hi

SAN is fully supported by MSCS, as long as it is on the HCL.
NAS is not. Look at
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;304261

Regards
Mike

"Mike Hodgson" wrote:

Quote:
Can't point you to any doco off the top of my head, but I can say
definitively that SQL 2000 running on an MSCS cluster can indeed talk to
a SAN regardless of how many SQL instances you have on your cluster.
Typically people either have a single instance (which most people refer
to as "active/passive") or 2 instances (which most people refer to as
"active/active") that they try to keep on separate nodes of the
cluster. But you could have up to 16 instances running on a single
cluster node - the number of instances doesn't really matter.

Basically, all cluster aware SQL server needs is a shared disk to write
data (& log) files to. Whether this is a NAS device or a SAN device is
irrelevant to SQL server - that's managed by MSCS, not SQL. We've been
running several "active/active" SQL clusters on top of MSCS talking to
both HP & EMC SANs (as well as HP & Dell NAS arrays) for over 4 years
now. It all works fine.

As I said I don't have doco on it but I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard
to find cruising around the Microsoft website.

--
*mike hodgson* |/ database administrator/ | mallesons stephen jaques
*T* +61 (2) 9296 3668 |* F* +61 (2) 9296 3885 |* M* +61 (408) 675 907
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TABMCSE wrote:

I have read that SQL Server with MSCS supports an Active/Active setup
via a NAS, however, DOES NOT support and Active/Active setup via a SAN. Can
anyone shed light on this? Any support documentation that would help would be
great! Thank you

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Mike Hodgson
 
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Default Re: SQL Clustering Options - 02-23-2005 , 05:58 AM



Sorry, when I said NAS I meant DAS (direct attached storage) - like Dell
PowerVault S220, Hewlett Packard RS12, etc. My bad - maybe I should
quit while I'm still ahead (or should that be while I'm not too far
behind yet?).

--
*mike hodgson* |/ database administrator/ | mallesons stephen jaques
*T* +61 (2) 9296 3668 |* F* +61 (2) 9296 3885 |* M* +61 (408) 675 907
*E* mailto:mike.hodgson (AT) mallesons (DOT) nospam.com |* W* http://www.mallesons.com



Mike Epprecht (SQL MVP) wrote:

Quote:
Hi

SAN is fully supported by MSCS, as long as it is on the HCL.
NAS is not. Look at
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;304261

Regards
Mike

"Mike Hodgson" wrote:



Can't point you to any doco off the top of my head, but I can say
definitively that SQL 2000 running on an MSCS cluster can indeed talk to
a SAN regardless of how many SQL instances you have on your cluster.
Typically people either have a single instance (which most people refer
to as "active/passive") or 2 instances (which most people refer to as
"active/active") that they try to keep on separate nodes of the
cluster. But you could have up to 16 instances running on a single
cluster node - the number of instances doesn't really matter.

Basically, all cluster aware SQL server needs is a shared disk to write
data (& log) files to. Whether this is a NAS device or a SAN device is
irrelevant to SQL server - that's managed by MSCS, not SQL. We've been
running several "active/active" SQL clusters on top of MSCS talking to
both HP & EMC SANs (as well as HP & Dell NAS arrays) for over 4 years
now. It all works fine.

As I said I don't have doco on it but I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard
to find cruising around the Microsoft website.

--
*mike hodgson* |/ database administrator/ | mallesons stephen jaques
*T* +61 (2) 9296 3668 |* F* +61 (2) 9296 3885 |* M* +61 (408) 675 907
*E* mailto:mike.hodgson (AT) mallesons (DOT) nospam.com |* W* http://www.mallesons.com



TABMCSE wrote:



I have read that SQL Server with MSCS supports an Active/Active setup
via a NAS, however, DOES NOT support and Active/Active setup via a SAN. Can
anyone shed light on this? Any support documentation that would help would be
great! Thank you




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Mike Epprecht (SQL MVP)
 
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Default Re: SQL Clustering Options - 02-23-2005 , 07:01 AM



Hi

You are still ahead......and all you said is correct.

NAS is supported, but with such a restrictive set of rules, it makes NAS not
very useful. SAN is still the most correct choice IMHO.

Cheers
Mike

"Mike Hodgson" wrote:

Quote:
Sorry, when I said NAS I meant DAS (direct attached storage) - like Dell
PowerVault S220, Hewlett Packard RS12, etc. My bad - maybe I should
quit while I'm still ahead (or should that be while I'm not too far
behind yet?).

--
*mike hodgson* |/ database administrator/ | mallesons stephen jaques
*T* +61 (2) 9296 3668 |* F* +61 (2) 9296 3885 |* M* +61 (408) 675 907
*E* mailto:mike.hodgson (AT) mallesons (DOT) nospam.com |* W* http://www.mallesons.com



Mike Epprecht (SQL MVP) wrote:

Hi

SAN is fully supported by MSCS, as long as it is on the HCL.
NAS is not. Look at
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;304261

Regards
Mike

"Mike Hodgson" wrote:



Can't point you to any doco off the top of my head, but I can say
definitively that SQL 2000 running on an MSCS cluster can indeed talk to
a SAN regardless of how many SQL instances you have on your cluster.
Typically people either have a single instance (which most people refer
to as "active/passive") or 2 instances (which most people refer to as
"active/active") that they try to keep on separate nodes of the
cluster. But you could have up to 16 instances running on a single
cluster node - the number of instances doesn't really matter.

Basically, all cluster aware SQL server needs is a shared disk to write
data (& log) files to. Whether this is a NAS device or a SAN device is
irrelevant to SQL server - that's managed by MSCS, not SQL. We've been
running several "active/active" SQL clusters on top of MSCS talking to
both HP & EMC SANs (as well as HP & Dell NAS arrays) for over 4 years
now. It all works fine.

As I said I don't have doco on it but I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard
to find cruising around the Microsoft website.

--
*mike hodgson* |/ database administrator/ | mallesons stephen jaques
*T* +61 (2) 9296 3668 |* F* +61 (2) 9296 3885 |* M* +61 (408) 675 907
*E* mailto:mike.hodgson (AT) mallesons (DOT) nospam.com |* W* http://www.mallesons.com



TABMCSE wrote:



I have read that SQL Server with MSCS supports an Active/Active setup
via a NAS, however, DOES NOT support and Active/Active setup via a SAN. Can
anyone shed light on this? Any support documentation that would help would be
great! Thank you




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TABMCSE
 
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Default Re: SQL Clustering Options - 02-23-2005 , 11:19 AM



Thank you both for your help!

"Mike Epprecht (SQL MVP)" wrote:

Quote:
Hi

You are still ahead......and all you said is correct.

NAS is supported, but with such a restrictive set of rules, it makes NAS not
very useful. SAN is still the most correct choice IMHO.

Cheers
Mike

"Mike Hodgson" wrote:

Sorry, when I said NAS I meant DAS (direct attached storage) - like Dell
PowerVault S220, Hewlett Packard RS12, etc. My bad - maybe I should
quit while I'm still ahead (or should that be while I'm not too far
behind yet?).

--
*mike hodgson* |/ database administrator/ | mallesons stephen jaques
*T* +61 (2) 9296 3668 |* F* +61 (2) 9296 3885 |* M* +61 (408) 675 907
*E* mailto:mike.hodgson (AT) mallesons (DOT) nospam.com |* W* http://www.mallesons.com



Mike Epprecht (SQL MVP) wrote:

Hi

SAN is fully supported by MSCS, as long as it is on the HCL.
NAS is not. Look at
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;304261

Regards
Mike

"Mike Hodgson" wrote:



Can't point you to any doco off the top of my head, but I can say
definitively that SQL 2000 running on an MSCS cluster can indeed talk to
a SAN regardless of how many SQL instances you have on your cluster.
Typically people either have a single instance (which most people refer
to as "active/passive") or 2 instances (which most people refer to as
"active/active") that they try to keep on separate nodes of the
cluster. But you could have up to 16 instances running on a single
cluster node - the number of instances doesn't really matter.

Basically, all cluster aware SQL server needs is a shared disk to write
data (& log) files to. Whether this is a NAS device or a SAN device is
irrelevant to SQL server - that's managed by MSCS, not SQL. We've been
running several "active/active" SQL clusters on top of MSCS talking to
both HP & EMC SANs (as well as HP & Dell NAS arrays) for over 4 years
now. It all works fine.

As I said I don't have doco on it but I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard
to find cruising around the Microsoft website.

--
*mike hodgson* |/ database administrator/ | mallesons stephen jaques
*T* +61 (2) 9296 3668 |* F* +61 (2) 9296 3885 |* M* +61 (408) 675 907
*E* mailto:mike.hodgson (AT) mallesons (DOT) nospam.com |* W* http://www.mallesons.com



TABMCSE wrote:



I have read that SQL Server with MSCS supports an Active/Active setup
via a NAS, however, DOES NOT support and Active/Active setup via a SAN. Can
anyone shed light on this? Any support documentation that would help would be
great! Thank you




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