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I'm a newbie with a big load, and I would appreciate some insight. In my environment, I have an active/active cluster, that also has Snapshot Replication from the slave node to the master node. Can someone offer some guidance how to apply the SQL SP3a service pack? In the Service Pack 3a readme.htm, section 3.10 #1, says if any resources have been added with dependencies on SQL Server Resources those dependencies must either before removed or taken offline. I understand how to do his, but say, if I take a physical drive that offline from the instance, how can it work if it also says all nodes must be active? I'm a little confused, and want to get this upgraded for obvious reasons. Thanks for your help, Josephine. |
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-----Original Message----- The article refers to non-SQL resources such as a third- party monitoring tool that needs to live in the SQL virtual server. If you have added more disks and SQL is dependant on them (necessary if you want to store data on them), then leave your setup alone. Setup wants all nodes active since it must do a binary-only upgrade to all the nodes. Note that service packs are applied to an instance, not a node. You will have to run the service pack once for each instance. -- Geoff N. Hiten Microsoft SQL Server MVP Senior Database Administrator Careerbuilder.com I support the Professional Association for SQL Server www.sqlpass.org "Josephine" <anonymous (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote in message news:2001801c45925$42ddca30$a601280a (AT) phx (DOT) gbl... I'm a newbie with a big load, and I would appreciate some insight. In my environment, I have an active/active cluster, that also has Snapshot Replication from the slave node to the master node. Can someone offer some guidance how to apply the SQL SP3a service pack? In the Service Pack 3a readme.htm, section 3.10 #1, says if any resources have been added with dependencies on SQL Server Resources those dependencies must either before removed or taken offline. I understand how to do his, but say, if I take a physical drive that offline from the instance, how can it work if it also says all nodes must be active? I'm a little confused, and want to get this upgraded for obvious reasons. Thanks for your help, Josephine. . |
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So what it means basically is any applications that are dependent on the databases in that cluster need to be stopped? Or just things like Director or MOM need to be stopped? Or both? Do I need to do anything to the Replication? It mentions stopping the updates. Just disable it? It replicates once a week. Thanks again, I really appreciate the knowledge Josephine. -----Original Message----- The article refers to non-SQL resources such as a third- party monitoring tool that needs to live in the SQL virtual server. If you have added more disks and SQL is dependant on them (necessary if you want to store data on them), then leave your setup alone. Setup wants all nodes active since it must do a binary-only upgrade to all the nodes. Note that service packs are applied to an instance, not a node. You will have to run the service pack once for each instance. -- Geoff N. Hiten Microsoft SQL Server MVP Senior Database Administrator Careerbuilder.com I support the Professional Association for SQL Server www.sqlpass.org "Josephine" <anonymous (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote in message news:2001801c45925$42ddca30$a601280a (AT) phx (DOT) gbl... I'm a newbie with a big load, and I would appreciate some insight. In my environment, I have an active/active cluster, that also has Snapshot Replication from the slave node to the master node. Can someone offer some guidance how to apply the SQL SP3a service pack? In the Service Pack 3a readme.htm, section 3.10 #1, says if any resources have been added with dependencies on SQL Server Resources those dependencies must either before removed or taken offline. I understand how to do his, but say, if I take a physical drive that offline from the instance, how can it work if it also says all nodes must be active? I'm a little confused, and want to get this upgraded for obvious reasons. Thanks for your help, Josephine. . |
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-----Original Message----- The article specifically talks about resources in the same SQL resource group Additional physical disks and IP addresses don't count. It is a good idea to disable monitoring apps during a service pack install, even if they aren't in the same resource group. That way, they cannot interfere with the SP. As for replication, you can stop the log reader and distribution tasks for the same reason (assuming transactional replication). The main reason to disable anything that is in the resource group OR that constantly connects to SQL is to make sure that the service pack installer always gets the one connection when the server is started in single- user mode. -- Geoff N. Hiten Microsoft SQL Server MVP Senior Database Administrator Careerbuilder.com I support the Professional Association for SQL Server www.sqlpass.org "Josephine" <anonymous (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote in message news:2037701c4595c$e0e6c560$a601280a (AT) phx (DOT) gbl... So what it means basically is any applications that are dependent on the databases in that cluster need to be stopped? Or just things like Director or MOM need to be stopped? Or both? Do I need to do anything to the Replication? It mentions stopping the updates. Just disable it? It replicates once a week. Thanks again, I really appreciate the knowledge Josephine. -----Original Message----- The article refers to non-SQL resources such as a third- party monitoring tool that needs to live in the SQL virtual server. If you have added more disks and SQL is dependant on them (necessary if you want to store data on them), then leave your setup alone. Setup wants all nodes active since it must do a binary-only upgrade to all the nodes. Note that service packs are applied to an instance, not a node. You will have to run the service pack once for each instance. -- Geoff N. Hiten Microsoft SQL Server MVP Senior Database Administrator Careerbuilder.com I support the Professional Association for SQL Server www.sqlpass.org "Josephine" <anonymous (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote in message news:2001801c45925$42ddca30$a601280a (AT) phx (DOT) gbl... I'm a newbie with a big load, and I would appreciate some insight. In my environment, I have an active/active cluster, that also has Snapshot Replication from the slave node to the master node. Can someone offer some guidance how to apply the SQL SP3a service pack? In the Service Pack 3a readme.htm, section 3.10 #1, says if any resources have been added with dependencies on SQL Server Resources those dependencies must either before removed or taken offline. I understand how to do his, but say, if I take a physical drive that offline from the instance, how can it work if it also says all nodes must be active? I'm a little confused, and want to get this upgraded for obvious reasons. Thanks for your help, Josephine. . . |
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Thanks Geoff, I need clarification on one more thing and I'll try not to pester you anymore. "While performing the cluster portion of SQL Server 2000 SP3 or SP3a, the setup will reset all cluster resources to the default properties for all resources in the group, whether they are related to SQL Server or not." Two questions, does it really reset all the resources? I didn't set this up initally so I don't know what the default settings were. Second, is there a cluster portion to install in addition to the instances? Sorry for all the dumb questions. I just want to make this as idiot proof for myself as possible. Thanks again, Josie -----Original Message----- The article specifically talks about resources in the same SQL resource group Additional physical disks and IP addresses don't count. It is a good idea to disable monitoring apps during a service pack install, even if they aren't in the same resource group. That way, they cannot interfere with the SP. As for replication, you can stop the log reader and distribution tasks for the same reason (assuming transactional replication). The main reason to disable anything that is in the resource group OR that constantly connects to SQL is to make sure that the service pack installer always gets the one connection when the server is started in single- user mode. -- Geoff N. Hiten Microsoft SQL Server MVP Senior Database Administrator Careerbuilder.com I support the Professional Association for SQL Server www.sqlpass.org "Josephine" <anonymous (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote in message news:2037701c4595c$e0e6c560$a601280a (AT) phx (DOT) gbl... So what it means basically is any applications that are dependent on the databases in that cluster need to be stopped? Or just things like Director or MOM need to be stopped? Or both? Do I need to do anything to the Replication? It mentions stopping the updates. Just disable it? It replicates once a week. Thanks again, I really appreciate the knowledge Josephine. -----Original Message----- The article refers to non-SQL resources such as a third- party monitoring tool that needs to live in the SQL virtual server. If you have added more disks and SQL is dependant on them (necessary if you want to store data on them), then leave your setup alone. Setup wants all nodes active since it must do a binary-only upgrade to all the nodes. Note that service packs are applied to an instance, not a node. You will have to run the service pack once for each instance. -- Geoff N. Hiten Microsoft SQL Server MVP Senior Database Administrator Careerbuilder.com I support the Professional Association for SQL Server www.sqlpass.org "Josephine" <anonymous (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote in message news:2001801c45925$42ddca30$a601280a (AT) phx (DOT) gbl... I'm a newbie with a big load, and I would appreciate some insight. In my environment, I have an active/active cluster, that also has Snapshot Replication from the slave node to the master node. Can someone offer some guidance how to apply the SQL SP3a service pack? In the Service Pack 3a readme.htm, section 3.10 #1, says if any resources have been added with dependencies on SQL Server Resources those dependencies must either before removed or taken offline. I understand how to do his, but say, if I take a physical drive that offline from the instance, how can it work if it also says all nodes must be active? I'm a little confused, and want to get this upgraded for obvious reasons. Thanks for your help, Josephine. . . |
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