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Default Please help with Missing Management Studio in second node. - 12-18-2007 , 12:36 PM






Hello, everyone.

I installed a 2-node SQL 2005 Standard Edition with SP2 cluster
(active/passive).
I realized that the Management Studio was not installed on the 2nd node.
How do I fix this issue without breaking my cluster in production mode
already? This is very critical for me to get it right in one shot.

Please advise.

P.S: I can't believe MS SQL server team did not catch this in their QA.
Additionally, I had other issue during the SQL cluster forcing me to redo the
installation from scratch several times. SQL 2000 was more "stable" than
2005? I was hoping that SQL 2005 much much better off than 2000 with the big
investment spent on it and touting as the best one ever ..................

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Default Re: Please help with Missing Management Studio in second node. - 12-18-2007 , 02:38 PM






Don't panic.

What you see is by design. The SQL installer only pushes cluster-aware
components to all cluster nodes. You can simply run the installer on the
console of the second node. Select "Workstation Components" and let it run.
Make sure and apply any Service Packs and Hotfixes to the second node. The
installer is smart enough to only update the components that it needs to and
will leave the database engine component alone.

Note that SSMS is not the only component that does not install Cluster-wide.
SSIS is also not on your second node unless you installed it manually.

I will agree the installation process is more complex for SQL 20005 than for
SQL 2000, but if you do all the preparation work correctly, a cluster
install should go very smoothly. Fortunately, there is a new installer for
SQL 2008 that looks a LOT better.

--
Geoff N. Hiten
Senior SQL Infrastructure Consultant
Microsoft SQL Server MVP




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Hello, everyone.

I installed a 2-node SQL 2005 Standard Edition with SP2 cluster
(active/passive).
I realized that the Management Studio was not installed on the 2nd node.
How do I fix this issue without breaking my cluster in production mode
already? This is very critical for me to get it right in one shot.

Please advise.

P.S: I can't believe MS SQL server team did not catch this in their QA.
Additionally, I had other issue during the SQL cluster forcing me to redo
the
installation from scratch several times. SQL 2000 was more "stable" than
2005? I was hoping that SQL 2005 much much better off than 2000 with the
big
investment spent on it and touting as the best one ever ..................


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Default Re: Please help with Missing Management Studio in second node. - 12-19-2007 , 02:20 AM



Thanks, Geoff.

So the Management Studio is not cluster-aware.
I always do custom installs (selecting only needed components)
I will give it a test try.


"Geoff N. Hiten" wrote:

Quote:
Don't panic.

What you see is by design. The SQL installer only pushes cluster-aware
components to all cluster nodes. You can simply run the installer on the
console of the second node. Select "Workstation Components" and let it run.
Make sure and apply any Service Packs and Hotfixes to the second node. The
installer is smart enough to only update the components that it needs to and
will leave the database engine component alone.

Note that SSMS is not the only component that does not install Cluster-wide.
SSIS is also not on your second node unless you installed it manually.

I will agree the installation process is more complex for SQL 20005 than for
SQL 2000, but if you do all the preparation work correctly, a cluster
install should go very smoothly. Fortunately, there is a new installer for
SQL 2008 that looks a LOT better.

--
Geoff N. Hiten
Senior SQL Infrastructure Consultant
Microsoft SQL Server MVP




"Windows W2K3 User" <WindowsW2K3User (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:E1B34CC2-6F42-4E55-A084-6B89AF1E1927 (AT) microsoft (DOT) com...
Hello, everyone.

I installed a 2-node SQL 2005 Standard Edition with SP2 cluster
(active/passive).
I realized that the Management Studio was not installed on the 2nd node.
How do I fix this issue without breaking my cluster in production mode
already? This is very critical for me to get it right in one shot.

Please advise.

P.S: I can't believe MS SQL server team did not catch this in their QA.
Additionally, I had other issue during the SQL cluster forcing me to redo
the
installation from scratch several times. SQL 2000 was more "stable" than
2005? I was hoping that SQL 2005 much much better off than 2000 with the
big
investment spent on it and touting as the best one ever ..................



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Geoff N. Hiten
 
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Default Re: Please help with Missing Management Studio in second node. - 12-19-2007 , 08:24 AM



Management Studio is cluster-agnostic. As a client tool, it does not know
anything about clustering. The installer for Management Studio is
cluster-ignorant.

--
Geoff N. Hiten
Senior SQL Infrastructure Consultant
Microsoft SQL Server MVP




"Windows W2K3 User" <WindowsW2K3User (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote in
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Quote:
Thanks, Geoff.

So the Management Studio is not cluster-aware.
I always do custom installs (selecting only needed components)
I will give it a test try.


"Geoff N. Hiten" wrote:

Don't panic.

What you see is by design. The SQL installer only pushes cluster-aware
components to all cluster nodes. You can simply run the installer on the
console of the second node. Select "Workstation Components" and let it
run.
Make sure and apply any Service Packs and Hotfixes to the second node.
The
installer is smart enough to only update the components that it needs to
and
will leave the database engine component alone.

Note that SSMS is not the only component that does not install
Cluster-wide.
SSIS is also not on your second node unless you installed it manually.

I will agree the installation process is more complex for SQL 20005 than
for
SQL 2000, but if you do all the preparation work correctly, a cluster
install should go very smoothly. Fortunately, there is a new installer
for
SQL 2008 that looks a LOT better.

--
Geoff N. Hiten
Senior SQL Infrastructure Consultant
Microsoft SQL Server MVP




"Windows W2K3 User" <WindowsW2K3User (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:E1B34CC2-6F42-4E55-A084-6B89AF1E1927 (AT) microsoft (DOT) com...
Hello, everyone.

I installed a 2-node SQL 2005 Standard Edition with SP2 cluster
(active/passive).
I realized that the Management Studio was not installed on the 2nd
node.
How do I fix this issue without breaking my cluster in production mode
already? This is very critical for me to get it right in one shot.

Please advise.

P.S: I can't believe MS SQL server team did not catch this in their QA.
Additionally, I had other issue during the SQL cluster forcing me to
redo
the
installation from scratch several times. SQL 2000 was more "stable"
than
2005? I was hoping that SQL 2005 much much better off than 2000 with
the
big
investment spent on it and touting as the best one ever
..................




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