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Default Re: Install Sql2005 Instance on Cluster - 10-10-2008 , 08:25 AM






Some high-end cluster storage (SAN technology) allows you to create a
"snapshot" of the data instantly. Behind the scenes it creates a diff file
and manages rollback. One key element is that it does not have to have
space for a complete duplicate of the data. I have used this in the past
with large data-in-place migrations to give myself a rollback method.

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Geoff N. Hiten
Principal SQL Infrastructure Consultant
Microsoft SQL Server MVP




"Jason" <bornscorpio30 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

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Thanks a Bunch Geoff
Also one more question, by snapshot u mean copy the files correct, i have
not room to backup 4tb of database anywhere hence they want to do inplace
or something like that..
"Geoff N. Hiten" <SQLCraftsman (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
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1. Yes.

2. No. The failure rate for in-place upgrades is pretty high. This way
you can build and configure the system before adding data. FYI, this
technique is called data-in-place.

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Geoff N. Hiten
Principal SQL Infrastructure Consultant
Microsoft SQL Server MVP




"Jason" <bornscorpio30 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
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thanks Geoff
So if i understand correctly
1>i cannot use the same group iwill have to request new ip /n/w name and
disk. correct and i will have to install its own group.
2>basically what u are saying is once i upgrade the db to 2k5 threre is
no going back, so then there is no point in installing a saperate
instnce rather just do inplace upgrade?





"Geoff N. Hiten" <SQLCraftsman (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
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1. No. One instance per group.

2. You can move disks between groups. The data on the disks stays
intact.

I would create a new instance, synch the logins, Stop both instances,
change the groups, fix the dependencies, start the new instance, and
attach the databases.

If you can, snapshot the data files before moving them to the new
instance. Once you attach the data files to the new instance, you
cannot put them back on the old one.

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Geoff N. Hiten
Principal SQL Infrastructure Consultant
Microsoft SQL Server MVP




"Jason" <bornscorpio30 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
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Hi All SQL Gurus
Here is my scenerio
I have a Win2003 SQL Server 2000 Cluster server.
Now the plan is to upgrade to SQL2005 But they do not want to upgrade
the existing instance. what the client wants to do is install another
instance of SQL 2005 on the same virtual server.
here is my problem.
1>Can i install named instance with different port # in the same
cluster group. say group 1. or do i need another sql group with
another ip, disk and n/w name.
2> if i move the disk between the groups. let us say i create another
group for this new sql 2k5 instance called Group2005, and want to move
the disk resources from original group Group2000 to new group2005,
will the data on the group be deleted.?
Because the size of the database is 5 TB, backup and restore is not an
option., so i was thinking of installing sql 2005 as another instance
and just attach the databases..

Will this work..
thx











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