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Swami
 
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Default Hyper Threading for a cluster envirnoment - 02-07-2005 , 01:27 PM






Hi

We are running SQL server in a cluster environment and Hyper threading are
enabled in that servers. The application and Database servers are
different. The appliactions stores 2 MB size of acrobat files to the table
which contains more than 600000 records . We are finding some kind of
issues with this servers.

Couple of SQL DBAs mentioning that , Hyder threading needs to disable in
that server .Is hyper threading cause any issue related to SQL Server
envirnoment.

Please reply

Regards

Swami
ganesh2012 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com


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Mike Epprecht \(SQL MVP\)
 
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Default Re: Hyper Threading for a cluster envirnoment - 02-07-2005 , 01:37 PM






Hi

I see no reason why you should. HT processors act like there are 2
processors installed.

What issues are you having?

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"Swami" <Swami (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote

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Hi

We are running SQL server in a cluster environment and Hyper threading
are
enabled in that servers. The application and Database servers are
different. The appliactions stores 2 MB size of acrobat files to the
table
which contains more than 600000 records . We are finding some kind of
issues with this servers.

Couple of SQL DBAs mentioning that , Hyder threading needs to disable in
that server .Is hyper threading cause any issue related to SQL Server
envirnoment.

Please reply

Regards

Swami
ganesh2012 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com




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Geoff N. Hiten
 
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Default Re: Hyper Threading for a cluster envirnoment - 02-07-2005 , 01:52 PM



In general, hyperthreading is a good thing. There are some strange
behaviors on 8 or more processor clusters but these only happen under some
very specific conditions. I do find that you will need to lower the
maximium degree of parallelism to the actual physical processor count to
avoid oversaturating a system. Please reply with more details on exactly
what your symptoms are so someone here can give you a better answer.

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"Swami" <Swami (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote

Quote:
Hi

We are running SQL server in a cluster environment and Hyper threading
are
enabled in that servers. The application and Database servers are
different. The appliactions stores 2 MB size of acrobat files to the
table
which contains more than 600000 records . We are finding some kind of
issues with this servers.

Couple of SQL DBAs mentioning that , Hyder threading needs to disable in
that server .Is hyper threading cause any issue related to SQL Server
envirnoment.

Please reply

Regards

Swami
ganesh2012 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com




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Hans de Bruin
 
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Default Re: Hyper Threading for a cluster envirnoment - 02-09-2005 , 08:50 AM



Geoff N. Hiten wrote:

Quote:
In general, hyperthreading is a good thing.

There are some strange
behaviors on 8 or more processor clusters but these only happen under some
very specific conditions.
Could jou post a link to some info on this?

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Geoff N. Hiten
 
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Default Re: Hyper Threading for a cluster envirnoment - 02-09-2005 , 09:13 AM



Here is one I actually oberved. It is a very unusual set of circumstances
that caused the problem.

FIX: Intermittent query slowdowns and corresponding high CPU utilization
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/835864

Here was another fix earlier to handle some other synchronization
performance issues.

FIX: Intense SQL Server Activity Results in Spinloop Wait in SQL Server 2000
Service Pack 2
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;818763

I am pretty sure SP2 had something in it for Hyperthreading, most likely
counting the processors correctly for licensing restrictions.

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Geoff N. Hiten wrote:

In general, hyperthreading is a good thing.

There are some strange
behaviors on 8 or more processor clusters but these only happen under
some
very specific conditions.

Could jou post a link to some info on this?

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