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Default Clustering MSDTC - 01-09-2004 , 01:11 PM






I need to add MSDTC service to an already running Windows 2000 ADV server
cluster (SP4) w/dual instances of SQL server installed. There are 3 disk
groups: Cluster group, Transaction and Data Warehouse.

I want to add the MSDTC service to the disk group called Transaction. Per Q
article 290624, when MSDTC is installed via the "comclust.exe" command it
installs in the first disk group going alphabetically in the order their
listed in Cluster Administrator if they contain a IP address resource,
Network Name resource and a Disk resource. All 3 groups contain these
requirements. So, if I install MSDTC it will install in the Cluster group
(the first group listed alphabetically). I don't want it there.

My Question: If I rename the cluster group "Transaction" to "Atransaction"
(added an "A" at the beginning so it becomes the first group listed
alphabetically) and I then install MSDTC via Comclust.exe will it install in
the Atransaction group? If so, I could then rename it back to "transaction"
and be done.

Is my logic correct? Does anyone have experience with this scenario?

TIA,

ML




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Brian Lawton
 
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Default Re: Clustering MSDTC - 01-11-2004 , 09:10 AM






Here are the instructions for moving DTC to another group. I don't believe
that simply renaming the groups will work, but I can't say I've tried doing
that way either. <g>

http://support.microsoft.com/default...&Product=sql2k

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"ml.net" <dont (AT) trustbill (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
I need to add MSDTC service to an already running Windows 2000 ADV server
cluster (SP4) w/dual instances of SQL server installed. There are 3 disk
groups: Cluster group, Transaction and Data Warehouse.

I want to add the MSDTC service to the disk group called Transaction. Per
Q
article 290624, when MSDTC is installed via the "comclust.exe" command it
installs in the first disk group going alphabetically in the order their
listed in Cluster Administrator if they contain a IP address resource,
Network Name resource and a Disk resource. All 3 groups contain these
requirements. So, if I install MSDTC it will install in the Cluster group
(the first group listed alphabetically). I don't want it there.

My Question: If I rename the cluster group "Transaction" to "Atransaction"
(added an "A" at the beginning so it becomes the first group listed
alphabetically) and I then install MSDTC via Comclust.exe will it install
in
the Atransaction group? If so, I could then rename it back to
"transaction"
and be done.

Is my logic correct? Does anyone have experience with this scenario?

TIA,

ML






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Linchi Shea
 
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Default Re: Clustering MSDTC - 01-12-2004 , 10:46 AM



Quote:
So, if I install MSDTC it will install in the
Cluster group (the first group listed alphabetically).
I don't want it there.
Also, Microsoft has generally recommended leaving MSDTC in
its default group, which varies per the Windows OS
version. See http://support.microsoft.com/?id=254321.

I'm curious about any specific reason you may have for "I
don't want it there."

Linchi

Quote:
-----Original Message-----
I need to add MSDTC service to an already running Windows
2000 ADV server
cluster (SP4) w/dual instances of SQL server installed.
There are 3 disk
groups: Cluster group, Transaction and Data Warehouse.

I want to add the MSDTC service to the disk group called
Transaction. Per Q
article 290624, when MSDTC is installed via
the "comclust.exe" command it
installs in the first disk group going alphabetically in
the order their
listed in Cluster Administrator if they contain a IP
address resource,
Network Name resource and a Disk resource. All 3 groups
contain these
requirements. So, if I install MSDTC it will install in
the Cluster group
(the first group listed alphabetically). I don't want it
there.

My Question: If I rename the cluster group "Transaction"
to "Atransaction"
(added an "A" at the beginning so it becomes the first
group listed
alphabetically) and I then install MSDTC via Comclust.exe
will it install in
the Atransaction group? If so, I could then rename it
back to "transaction"
and be done.

Is my logic correct? Does anyone have experience with
this scenario?

TIA,

ML



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Default Re: Clustering MSDTC - 01-28-2004 , 05:13 AM



What I would like to know if I can install a MSDTC
service in multiple groups. Why? I have a active active
cluster and the second node is running ok, but connecting
to an instance via COM+ on the second node fails because
of not running MSDTC. MSDTC is running on the first
node...
Quote:
-----Original Message-----
So, if I install MSDTC it will install in the
Cluster group (the first group listed alphabetically).
I don't want it there.

Also, Microsoft has generally recommended leaving MSDTC
in
its default group, which varies per the Windows OS
version. See http://support.microsoft.com/?id=254321.

I'm curious about any specific reason you may have
for "I
don't want it there."

Linchi

-----Original Message-----
I need to add MSDTC service to an already running
Windows
2000 ADV server
cluster (SP4) w/dual instances of SQL server installed.
There are 3 disk
groups: Cluster group, Transaction and Data Warehouse.

I want to add the MSDTC service to the disk group
called
Transaction. Per Q
article 290624, when MSDTC is installed via
the "comclust.exe" command it
installs in the first disk group going alphabetically
in
the order their
listed in Cluster Administrator if they contain a IP
address resource,
Network Name resource and a Disk resource. All 3 groups
contain these
requirements. So, if I install MSDTC it will install in
the Cluster group
(the first group listed alphabetically). I don't want
it
there.

My Question: If I rename the cluster
group "Transaction"
to "Atransaction"
(added an "A" at the beginning so it becomes the first
group listed
alphabetically) and I then install MSDTC via
Comclust.exe
will it install in
the Atransaction group? If so, I could then rename it
back to "transaction"
and be done.

Is my logic correct? Does anyone have experience with
this scenario?

TIA,

ML



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Cindy Gross
 
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Default Re: Clustering MSDTC - 01-30-2004 , 10:20 AM



Since MSDTC is clustered, applications running on either node should be
able to access it, there shouldn't be a need to have multiple DTCs.

Cindy Gross, MCDBA, MCSE
http://cindygross.tripod.com
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


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Jim Carley
 
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Default Re: Clustering MSDTC - 02-12-2004 , 09:18 PM



It is incorrect to have multiple MSDTC resources in the cluster. The single
MSDTC resource should be accessible from all nodes in the cluster. The
MSDTC configuration directs DtcGetTransactionManager calls to the instance
of the MSDTC serivce running on the node where the MSDTC resource is online.

Jim Carley (MSFT)

"Cindy Gross (MSFT)" <cgross (AT) online (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote

Quote:
Since MSDTC is clustered, applications running on either node should be
able to access it, there shouldn't be a need to have multiple DTCs.

Cindy Gross, MCDBA, MCSE
http://cindygross.tripod.com
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.




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