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Hi guys: I would like to acquire a little hands on building a clustering environment. As per my initial readings, this is what I would need, could you guys let me know what I am missing or misinterpreting? Thanks HARDWARE 1) build two computers, preferable with similar hardware components These computers must be on the clustering HCL or you shouldn't even |
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2) Can use internal EIDE hard drives, 20 GB is OK (no need to have SCSI HDD or RAID controllers) You still want a RAID 1 for this drive. It's not a very highly |
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3) Must have two network adapter cards, one for the normal network access and the second one for the heartbeat Not a requirement but certainly recommended. |
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4) An external storage device is required. The two computer must connect to this device 5) This external storage device can contain either EIDE or regular SCSI hard drives The shared drives must be SCSI or Fibre Channel. |
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6) It is not necessary to use raid controllers I don't know if this is a requirement or not but what good is having |
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SOFTWARE 1) Windows 2000 Advanced server or Windows 2003 Enterprise must be installed in each one of the computers 3) Each computer will have its own computer name (i.e SERVERONE, SERVERTWO 2) Windows Clustering services must also be installed on each computer 3) Once clustering services is activated a Virtual server will be created 4) The Virtual server will need to have its own "computer name" i.e. SERVERCLUSTER 5) Four IP addresses will be needed, two for the physical servers, one for the virtual server, and another one for the HEARTBEAT 6) Heartbeat IP address may be from a private schema (i.e. 192.168.0.1) and a cross over cable can used to connect the two heartbeat NICs 7) SQL Server 2000 with latest service pack will need to be install on both physical computers 8) SQL installation need to place files and data on the external storage device 9) SQL clustering services will need to be configure in each server Thanks for your expert advise in editing and completing the steps above July |
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Hi guys: I would like to acquire a little hands on building a clustering environment. As per my initial readings, this is what I would need, could you guys let me know what I am missing or misinterpreting? Thanks HARDWARE 1) build two computers, preferable with similar hardware components Yep. Anything PII-400 or above. I find PIII 500 the effective minimum |
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2) Can use internal EIDE hard drives, 20 GB is OK (no need to have SCSI HDD or RAID controllers) For boot, yes. 3) Must have two network adapter cards, one for the normal network access and the second one for the heartbeat Yes. It is posssible but difficult to do with one NIC. 4) An external storage device is required. The two computer must connect to this device 5) This external storage device can contain either EIDE or regular SCSI hard drives SCSI or Fiber Channel. EIDE/ATA/IDE only supports one controller per bus. |
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6) It is not necessary to use raid controllers I don't recommend SCSI Raid on a cluster. |
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SOFTWARE 1) Windows 2000 Advanced server or Windows 2003 Enterprise must be installed in each one of the computers Yes. 3) Each computer will have its own computer name (i.e SERVERONE, SERVERTWO Yes 2) Windows Clustering services must also be installed on each computer Yes 3) Once clustering services is activated a Virtual server will be created The install gathers the information and create the cluster group/virtual |
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4) The Virtual server will need to have its own "computer name" i.e. SERVERCLUSTER Yes. This is the Cluster name. 5) Four IP addresses will be needed, two for the physical servers, one for the virtual server, and another one for the HEARTBEAT Three public, two private. Each host node needs 1, the clister gets 1 |
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6) Heartbeat IP address may be from a private schema (i.e. 192.168.0.1) and a cross over cable can used to connect the two heartbeat NICs This is recommended practice for a two-node cluster., 7) SQL Server 2000 with latest service pack will need to be install on both physical computers There is a specific method for installing a SQL cluster named instance on a |
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8) SQL installation need to place files and data on the external storage device SQL installs a local copy of the binaries on each node and puts data on |
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9) SQL clustering services will need to be configure in each server Again, the SQL Cluster install handles creating the virtual server and |

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Thanks for your expert advise in editing and completing the steps above July |
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Asumption: This is for training and testing ONLY. If it is to be a produciton box, consult the HCL and a cluster-certified vendor. Comments Inline -- Geoff N. Hiten Microsoft SQL Server MVP Senior Database Administrator Careerbuilder.com I support the Professional Association for SQL Server www.sqlpass.org "White Jul" <whitejul (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:u9WeMXW8DHA.1596 (AT) TK2MSFTNGP10 (DOT) phx.gbl... Hi guys: I would like to acquire a little hands on building a clustering environment. As per my initial readings, this is what I would need, could you guys let me know what I am missing or misinterpreting? Thanks HARDWARE 1) build two computers, preferable with similar hardware components Yep. Anything PII-400 or above. I find PIII 500 the effective minimum system. 2) Can use internal EIDE hard drives, 20 GB is OK (no need to have SCSI HDD or RAID controllers) For boot, yes. 3) Must have two network adapter cards, one for the normal network access and the second one for the heartbeat Yes. It is posssible but difficult to do with one NIC. 4) An external storage device is required. The two computer must connect to this device 5) This external storage device can contain either EIDE or regular SCSI hard drives SCSI or Fiber Channel. EIDE/ATA/IDE only supports one controller per bus. SCSI can have multiple controllers. 6) It is not necessary to use raid controllers I don't recommend SCSI Raid on a cluster. When you assemble the system, you will need to deal with termination issues on the SCSI bus. If you rely on the controllers to terminate automatically, then when a node is powered off, you will have an improperly terminated SCSI bus. For testing and training this is OK. For starting a CheapCluster(TM) like this, you will want to start both and hold one at the OS load screen (where you choose the OS) and let the other one start up completely. Then you can bring the second node up. Non-HCL hardware has lots of little gotch as like this. SOFTWARE 1) Windows 2000 Advanced server or Windows 2003 Enterprise must be installed in each one of the computers Yes. 3) Each computer will have its own computer name (i.e SERVERONE, SERVERTWO Yes 2) Windows Clustering services must also be installed on each computer Yes 3) Once clustering services is activated a Virtual server will be created The install gathers the information and create the cluster group/virtual server 4) The Virtual server will need to have its own "computer name" i.e. SERVERCLUSTER Yes. This is the Cluster name. 5) Four IP addresses will be needed, two for the physical servers, one for the virtual server, and another one for the HEARTBEAT Three public, two private. Each host node needs 1, the clister gets 1 (these are the public) and the heartbeat NICs will each need one (Private). 6) Heartbeat IP address may be from a private schema (i.e. 192.168.0.1) and a cross over cable can used to connect the two heartbeat NICs This is recommended practice for a two-node cluster., 7) SQL Server 2000 with latest service pack will need to be install on both physical computers There is a specific method for installing a SQL cluster named instance on a Windows Server 2003 cluster. See the following KB article for details. PRB: Installation of a Named Instance of SQL Server 2000 Virtual Server on a Windows 2003-Based Cluster Fails http://support.microsoft.com/default...&Product=sql2k 8) SQL installation need to place files and data on the external storage device SQL installs a local copy of the binaries on each node and puts data on shared resources. The cluster install handles all nodes at once. 9) SQL clustering services will need to be configure in each server Again, the SQL Cluster install handles creating the virtual server and configuring each node. One install does it all. ![]() Thanks for your expert advise in editing and completing the steps above July |
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-----Original Message----- Some comments in-line: -- Andrew J. Kelly SQL Server MVP "White Jul" <whitejul (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:u9WeMXW8DHA.1596 (AT) TK2MSFTNGP10 (DOT) phx.gbl... Hi guys: I would like to acquire a little hands on building a clustering environment. As per my initial readings, this is what I would need, could you guys let me know what I am missing or misinterpreting? Thanks HARDWARE 1) build two computers, preferable with similar hardware components These computers must be on the clustering HCL or you shouldn't even bother. 2) Can use internal EIDE hard drives, 20 GB is OK (no need to have SCSI HDD or RAID controllers) You still want a RAID 1 for this drive. It's not a very highly available system if you don't use RAID everywhere. 3) Must have two network adapter cards, one for the normal network access and the second one for the heartbeat Not a requirement but certainly recommended. 4) An external storage device is required. The two computer must connect to this device 5) This external storage device can contain either EIDE or regular SCSI hard drives The shared drives must be SCSI or Fibre Channel. 6) It is not necessary to use raid controllers I don't know if this is a requirement or not but what good is having a clustering solution if you don't have redundancy in your drives as well? SOFTWARE 1) Windows 2000 Advanced server or Windows 2003 Enterprise must be installed in each one of the computers 3) Each computer will have its own computer name (i.e SERVERONE, SERVERTWO 2) Windows Clustering services must also be installed on each computer 3) Once clustering services is activated a Virtual server will be created 4) The Virtual server will need to have its own "computer name" i.e. SERVERCLUSTER 5) Four IP addresses will be needed, two for the physical servers, one for the virtual server, and another one for the HEARTBEAT 6) Heartbeat IP address may be from a private schema (i.e. 192.168.0.1) and a cross over cable can used to connect the two heartbeat NICs 7) SQL Server 2000 with latest service pack will need to be install on both physical computers 8) SQL installation need to place files and data on the external storage device 9) SQL clustering services will need to be configure in each server Thanks for your expert advise in editing and completing the steps above July . |
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I understand your recommendation about HCL and all that staff, but please understand that what I'm trying to do is just a TEST ENVIRONMENT and I do not have any other hardware resources than the one I mentioned in my original post. I really would like someone to take a look at what i have (at home!) and let me know if it is all that I need to my testing environment or any other recommendation, I also understand all the precautions if this would be a production scenario. It is only for testing and training purposes. Thanks for any advice July -----Original Message----- Some comments in-line: -- Andrew J. Kelly SQL Server MVP "White Jul" <whitejul (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:u9WeMXW8DHA.1596 (AT) TK2MSFTNGP10 (DOT) phx.gbl... Hi guys: I would like to acquire a little hands on building a clustering environment. As per my initial readings, this is what I would need, could you guys let me know what I am missing or misinterpreting? Thanks HARDWARE 1) build two computers, preferable with similar hardware components These computers must be on the clustering HCL or you shouldn't even bother. 2) Can use internal EIDE hard drives, 20 GB is OK (no need to have SCSI HDD or RAID controllers) You still want a RAID 1 for this drive. It's not a very highly available system if you don't use RAID everywhere. 3) Must have two network adapter cards, one for the normal network access and the second one for the heartbeat Not a requirement but certainly recommended. 4) An external storage device is required. The two computer must connect to this device 5) This external storage device can contain either EIDE or regular SCSI hard drives The shared drives must be SCSI or Fibre Channel. 6) It is not necessary to use raid controllers I don't know if this is a requirement or not but what good is having a clustering solution if you don't have redundancy in your drives as well? SOFTWARE 1) Windows 2000 Advanced server or Windows 2003 Enterprise must be installed in each one of the computers 3) Each computer will have its own computer name (i.e SERVERONE, SERVERTWO 2) Windows Clustering services must also be installed on each computer 3) Once clustering services is activated a Virtual server will be created 4) The Virtual server will need to have its own "computer name" i.e. SERVERCLUSTER 5) Four IP addresses will be needed, two for the physical servers, one for the virtual server, and another one for the HEARTBEAT 6) Heartbeat IP address may be from a private schema (i.e. 192.168.0.1) and a cross over cable can used to connect the two heartbeat NICs 7) SQL Server 2000 with latest service pack will need to be install on both physical computers 8) SQL installation need to place files and data on the external storage device 9) SQL clustering services will need to be configure in each server Thanks for your expert advise in editing and completing the steps above July . |
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Asumption: This is for training and testing ONLY. If it is to be a produciton box, consult the HCL and a cluster-certified vendor. Comments Inline -- Geoff N. Hiten Microsoft SQL Server MVP Senior Database Administrator Careerbuilder.com I support the Professional Association for SQL Server www.sqlpass.org "White Jul" <whitejul (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:u9WeMXW8DHA.1596 (AT) TK2MSFTNGP10 (DOT) phx.gbl... Hi guys: I would like to acquire a little hands on building a clustering environment. As per my initial readings, this is what I would need, could you guys let me know what I am missing or misinterpreting? Thanks HARDWARE 1) build two computers, preferable with similar hardware components Yep. Anything PII-400 or above. I find PIII 500 the effective minimum system. 2) Can use internal EIDE hard drives, 20 GB is OK (no need to have SCSI HDD or RAID controllers) For boot, yes. 3) Must have two network adapter cards, one for the normal network access and the second one for the heartbeat Yes. It is posssible but difficult to do with one NIC. 4) An external storage device is required. The two computer must connect to this device 5) This external storage device can contain either EIDE or regular SCSI hard drives SCSI or Fiber Channel. EIDE/ATA/IDE only supports one controller per bus. SCSI can have multiple controllers. 6) It is not necessary to use raid controllers I don't recommend SCSI Raid on a cluster. When you assemble the system, you will need to deal with termination issues on the SCSI bus. If you rely on the controllers to terminate automatically, then when a node is powered off, you will have an improperly terminated SCSI bus. For testing and training this is OK. For starting a CheapCluster(TM) like this, you will want to start both and hold one at the OS load screen (where you choose the OS) and let the other one start up completely. Then you can bring the second node up. Non-HCL hardware has lots of little gotch as like this. SOFTWARE 1) Windows 2000 Advanced server or Windows 2003 Enterprise must be installed in each one of the computers Yes. 3) Each computer will have its own computer name (i.e SERVERONE, SERVERTWO Yes 2) Windows Clustering services must also be installed on each computer Yes 3) Once clustering services is activated a Virtual server will be created The install gathers the information and create the cluster group/virtual server 4) The Virtual server will need to have its own "computer name" i.e. SERVERCLUSTER Yes. This is the Cluster name. 5) Four IP addresses will be needed, two for the physical servers, one for the virtual server, and another one for the HEARTBEAT Three public, two private. Each host node needs 1, the clister gets 1 (these are the public) and the heartbeat NICs will each need one (Private). 6) Heartbeat IP address may be from a private schema (i.e. 192.168.0.1) and a cross over cable can used to connect the two heartbeat NICs This is recommended practice for a two-node cluster., 7) SQL Server 2000 with latest service pack will need to be install on both physical computers There is a specific method for installing a SQL cluster named instance on a Windows Server 2003 cluster. See the following KB article for details. PRB: Installation of a Named Instance of SQL Server 2000 Virtual Server on a Windows 2003-Based Cluster Fails http://support.microsoft.com/default...&Product=sql2k 8) SQL installation need to place files and data on the external storage device SQL installs a local copy of the binaries on each node and puts data on shared resources. The cluster install handles all nodes at once. 9) SQL clustering services will need to be configure in each server Again, the SQL Cluster install handles creating the virtual server and configuring each node. One install does it all. ![]() Thanks for your expert advise in editing and completing the steps above July |
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