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Default Active/Active clustering - 05-03-2005 , 02:17 PM






Hi all -
i am fairly new to clustering and here is what i am trying to accomplish:

- 2 DL380 g4 with 5 drives each.
- 2x Raid 1 for sys files
- 2x Raid 1
- 1x Raid 0

I dont have an external SAN device for shared external disk and my question
is A)do I need external SAN device to cluster two servers?
B) Can I use the last drive (Raid 0) for quorum drive?
C) when I run the "cluster wizard" on node 2 I can add the node to the
existing cluster but I am unable to add any disk resources??

thanks for the help!!
-Js

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Default Re: Active/Active clustering - 05-03-2005 , 02:50 PM






Hi

For clustering, you need shared storage. This is in the form of a SAN.

No SAN, no cluster.

Get familiar with the information on
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserv...g/default.mspx

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"JsX" <JsX (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote

Quote:
Hi all -
i am fairly new to clustering and here is what i am trying to accomplish:

- 2 DL380 g4 with 5 drives each.
- 2x Raid 1 for sys files
- 2x Raid 1
- 1x Raid 0

I dont have an external SAN device for shared external disk and my
question
is A)do I need external SAN device to cluster two servers?
B) Can I use the last drive (Raid 0) for quorum drive?
C) when I run the "cluster wizard" on node 2 I can add the node to the
existing cluster but I am unable to add any disk resources??

thanks for the help!!
-Js



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Default Re: Active/Active clustering - 05-03-2005 , 03:05 PM



Thanks for you response! So, I need an SAN attached storage device, so the 2
servers that i will be clustering can only have 2 drives each for sys files?
and everything else should be on the SAN? am I correct?
thx
-jim

"Mike Epprecht (SQL MVP)" wrote:

Quote:
Hi

For clustering, you need shared storage. This is in the form of a SAN.

No SAN, no cluster.

Get familiar with the information on
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserv...g/default.mspx

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Zurich, Switzerland

IM: mike (AT) epprecht (DOT) net

MVP Program: http://www.microsoft.com/mvp

Blog: http://www.msmvps.com/epprecht/

"JsX" <JsX (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Hi all -
i am fairly new to clustering and here is what i am trying to accomplish:

- 2 DL380 g4 with 5 drives each.
- 2x Raid 1 for sys files
- 2x Raid 1
- 1x Raid 0

I dont have an external SAN device for shared external disk and my
question
is A)do I need external SAN device to cluster two servers?
B) Can I use the last drive (Raid 0) for quorum drive?
C) when I run the "cluster wizard" on node 2 I can add the node to the
existing cluster but I am unable to add any disk resources??

thanks for the help!!
-Js




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Mike Epprecht \(SQL MVP\)
 
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Default Re: Active/Active clustering - 05-03-2005 , 03:23 PM



Hi

The OS and the SQL Server executables gets installed on the local drive.

Data and Quorum go on the SAN.

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Mike Epprecht, Microsoft SQL Server MVP
Zurich, Switzerland

IM: mike (AT) epprecht (DOT) net

MVP Program: http://www.microsoft.com/mvp

Blog: http://www.msmvps.com/epprecht/

"JsX" <JsX (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote

Quote:
Thanks for you response! So, I need an SAN attached storage device, so
the 2
servers that i will be clustering can only have 2 drives each for sys
files?
and everything else should be on the SAN? am I correct?
thx
-jim

"Mike Epprecht (SQL MVP)" wrote:

Hi

For clustering, you need shared storage. This is in the form of a SAN.

No SAN, no cluster.

Get familiar with the information on
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserv...g/default.mspx

--
--------------------------------
Mike Epprecht, Microsoft SQL Server MVP
Zurich, Switzerland

IM: mike (AT) epprecht (DOT) net

MVP Program: http://www.microsoft.com/mvp

Blog: http://www.msmvps.com/epprecht/

"JsX" <JsX (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:42B4652D-6AF1-4688-8493-B233306BFE57 (AT) microsoft (DOT) com...
Hi all -
i am fairly new to clustering and here is what i am trying to
accomplish:

- 2 DL380 g4 with 5 drives each.
- 2x Raid 1 for sys files
- 2x Raid 1
- 1x Raid 0

I dont have an external SAN device for shared external disk and my
question
is A)do I need external SAN device to cluster two servers?
B) Can I use the last drive (Raid 0) for quorum drive?
C) when I run the "cluster wizard" on node 2 I can add the node to the
existing cluster but I am unable to add any disk resources??

thanks for the help!!
-Js






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JsX
 
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Default Re: Active/Active clustering - 05-03-2005 , 03:43 PM



thx a lot!

"Mike Epprecht (SQL MVP)" wrote:

Quote:
Hi

The OS and the SQL Server executables gets installed on the local drive.

Data and Quorum go on the SAN.

Regards
--------------------------------
Mike Epprecht, Microsoft SQL Server MVP
Zurich, Switzerland

IM: mike (AT) epprecht (DOT) net

MVP Program: http://www.microsoft.com/mvp

Blog: http://www.msmvps.com/epprecht/

"JsX" <JsX (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5609833A-497E-4EA4-9FE3-872EFB3CB352 (AT) microsoft (DOT) com...
Thanks for you response! So, I need an SAN attached storage device, so
the 2
servers that i will be clustering can only have 2 drives each for sys
files?
and everything else should be on the SAN? am I correct?
thx
-jim

"Mike Epprecht (SQL MVP)" wrote:

Hi

For clustering, you need shared storage. This is in the form of a SAN.

No SAN, no cluster.

Get familiar with the information on
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserv...g/default.mspx

--
--------------------------------
Mike Epprecht, Microsoft SQL Server MVP
Zurich, Switzerland

IM: mike (AT) epprecht (DOT) net

MVP Program: http://www.microsoft.com/mvp

Blog: http://www.msmvps.com/epprecht/

"JsX" <JsX (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:42B4652D-6AF1-4688-8493-B233306BFE57 (AT) microsoft (DOT) com...
Hi all -
i am fairly new to clustering and here is what i am trying to
accomplish:

- 2 DL380 g4 with 5 drives each.
- 2x Raid 1 for sys files
- 2x Raid 1
- 1x Raid 0

I dont have an external SAN device for shared external disk and my
question
is A)do I need external SAN device to cluster two servers?
B) Can I use the last drive (Raid 0) for quorum drive?
C) when I run the "cluster wizard" on node 2 I can add the node to the
existing cluster but I am unable to add any disk resources??

thanks for the help!!
-Js







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Default Re: Active/Active clustering - 05-03-2005 , 05:03 PM



"JsX" wrote:
Quote:
Hi all -
i am fairly new to clustering and here is what i am trying to
accomplish:

- 2 DL380 g4 with 5 drives each.
- 2x Raid 1 for sys files
- 2x Raid 1
- 1x Raid 0

I dont have an external SAN device for shared external disk
and my question
is A)do I need external SAN device to cluster two servers?
B) Can I use the last drive (Raid 0) for quorum drive?
C) when I run the "cluster wizard" on node 2 I can add the
node to the
existing cluster but I am unable to add any disk resources??

thanks for the help!!
-Js
Hi,

To get clustering to work correctly you need to have a disk set that
can be accessed from both nodes so a SAN or external disk array of
some form is needed. This is why you can add the second node but not
see any disk resources to add.

With regard using a RAID 0 for the quorum, I would say no as if the
quorum goes the cluster goes - again this needs to be on a disk set
that is accessible to both nodes.

Hope that helps,
Digger

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