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Default RE: SQL Server error on boot - 09-22-2009 , 11:35 AM






Hello Erland - Thanks for the reply. I've decided to have one more go at
uninstalling the whole SQL installation, using a program called Revo
Uninstaller. I've used it before and it can be configured to remove all
traces of a software package. I now have six instances of SQL software
showing up when I scan with Revo Uninstaller. These are:

Hotfix 2050 for SQL Server 2000 ENU (KB948110) - Cannot ID a location
Microsoft SQL Server Compact Edition (ENU) - In C:\Progarm Files\MS SQL Server
Microsoft SQL Server Desktop Engine (PINNACLESYS) - Cannot ID a location
Microsoft SQL Server Native Client - In C:\Prgram Files\MS SQL Server
Microsoft SQL Server Setup Support Files (English) - In C:\Program Files\MS
SQL Server\90\Setup Bootstrap
Microsoft SQL Server VSS Writer - In C:\Program Files\MS SQL Server (with
subfolders: 80, 90, MSSQL.1)

My thinking is to remove all traces of SQL, including PINNACLESYS and then
to reinstall SQL and if necessary, reinstall Pinnacle's Studio package. Just
one last question for you - Can I remove all the above instances without
causing terminal problems with my machine?

Very many thanks for all your help and support - all much appreciated.

Regards,
John
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"Erland Sommarskog" wrote:

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JohnH (JohnH (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com) writes:
I did contact Pinnacle and they seemed unable to help. I spent ages with
their helpdesk for Studio 11 but they seemed unable (or perhaps
unprepared) to deal with the problem. I'm beginning to think that the
only solution will be a clean install of XP (and all other software). I
guess it's overdue as its been a couple of years since I last did it.

Who wants reinstall a machine? I hate it everytime I have to do it -
be that because of a hardware problem, or because I get new box or
OS. It takes ages to get everything in place.

I did look under the Start menu in All Programs and could find not
reference to SQL Server Configuration Manager or the SQL Server Program
group. In Program Files there are two references. The first is Microsoft
SQL Server (containing 3 folders labelled 80, 90 and MSSQL.1. All 3
folders contain additional folders and/or files) and the second is
Microsoft SQL Server Compact Edition (containing a single folder v3.1)

It is the folder with MSSQL.1 that holds the remnants of the missing
instance. Not you will have much use for that piece of information.

One more option is to open a support case with Microsoft. But they are
likely to charge you an arm and a leg. Or did you say that a Microsoft
person helped you to uninstall Microsoft Accounting? After all, it seems
to be a bug in that uninstall that caused the problem. So from that point
of view, they should refund you. But I would not take that for granted.

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Erland Sommarskog, SQL Server MVP, esquel (AT) sommarskog (DOT) se

Links for SQL Server Books Online:
SQL 2008: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/sqlserver/cc514207.aspx
SQL 2005: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/sqlserver/bb895970.aspx
SQL 2000: http://www.microsoft.com/sql/prodinf...ons/books.mspx


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Erland Sommarskog
 
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Default RE: SQL Server error on boot - 09-22-2009 , 04:35 PM






JohnH (JohnH (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com) writes:
Quote:
Hello Erland - Thanks for the reply. I've decided to have one more go at
uninstalling the whole SQL installation, using a program called Revo
Uninstaller. I've used it before and it can be configured to remove all
traces of a software package. I now have six instances of SQL software
showing up when I scan with Revo Uninstaller. These are:

Hotfix 2050 for SQL Server 2000 ENU (KB948110) - Cannot ID a location
Microsoft SQL Server Compact Edition (ENU) - In C:\Progarm Files\MS SQL
Server
Microsoft SQL Server Desktop Engine (PINNACLESYS) - Cannot ID a location
Microsoft SQL Server Native Client - In C:\Prgram Files\MS SQL Server
Microsoft SQL Server Setup Support Files (English) - In C:\Program
Files\MS SQL Server\90\Setup Bootstrap
Microsoft SQL Server VSS Writer - In C:\Program Files\MS SQL Server (with
subfolders: 80, 90, MSSQL.1)

My thinking is to remove all traces of SQL, including PINNACLESYS and
then to reinstall SQL and if necessary, reinstall Pinnacle's Studio
package. Just one last question for you - Can I remove all the above
instances without causing terminal problems with my machine?

Very many thanks for all your help and support - all much appreciated.
Ah, this is enlightening. It seems that the PINNACLESYS instance
is not meant to be SQL 2005, but SQL 2000. Else it would not say
Desktop Engine. But some of the other files are definitely from
SQL 2005. Note that these are not server instances, but they are
just SQL Server related install items.

Yes, I think that you could just as well try to nuke them. But if
you have a machine to spare, I would first try to make an install
of Pinnacle to see if that works out, and if you get an instance
of SQL 2000 MSDE. Else it's probably not worth the effort.


--
Erland Sommarskog, SQL Server MVP, esquel (AT) sommarskog (DOT) se

Links for SQL Server Books Online:
SQL 2008: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/sqlserver/cc514207.aspx
SQL 2005: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/sqlserver/bb895970.aspx
SQL 2000: http://www.microsoft.com/sql/prodinf...ons/books.mspx

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JohnH
 
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Default RE: SQL Server error on boot - 09-22-2009 , 06:08 PM



Thanks for the quick reply Erland. I have another machine and Pinnacle's
Studio 11 is running fine on that so I'm just going to nuke the whole
shooting match on my desktop and see what I end up with. I'll let you know
how I get on .... thanks for all your help.
John
--
John


"Erland Sommarskog" wrote:

Quote:
JohnH (JohnH (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com) writes:
Hello Erland - Thanks for the reply. I've decided to have one more go at
uninstalling the whole SQL installation, using a program called Revo
Uninstaller. I've used it before and it can be configured to remove all
traces of a software package. I now have six instances of SQL software
showing up when I scan with Revo Uninstaller. These are:

Hotfix 2050 for SQL Server 2000 ENU (KB948110) - Cannot ID a location
Microsoft SQL Server Compact Edition (ENU) - In C:\Progarm Files\MS SQL
Server
Microsoft SQL Server Desktop Engine (PINNACLESYS) - Cannot ID a location
Microsoft SQL Server Native Client - In C:\Prgram Files\MS SQL Server
Microsoft SQL Server Setup Support Files (English) - In C:\Program
Files\MS SQL Server\90\Setup Bootstrap
Microsoft SQL Server VSS Writer - In C:\Program Files\MS SQL Server (with
subfolders: 80, 90, MSSQL.1)

My thinking is to remove all traces of SQL, including PINNACLESYS and
then to reinstall SQL and if necessary, reinstall Pinnacle's Studio
package. Just one last question for you - Can I remove all the above
instances without causing terminal problems with my machine?

Very many thanks for all your help and support - all much appreciated.

Ah, this is enlightening. It seems that the PINNACLESYS instance
is not meant to be SQL 2005, but SQL 2000. Else it would not say
Desktop Engine. But some of the other files are definitely from
SQL 2005. Note that these are not server instances, but they are
just SQL Server related install items.

Yes, I think that you could just as well try to nuke them. But if
you have a machine to spare, I would first try to make an install
of Pinnacle to see if that works out, and if you get an instance
of SQL 2000 MSDE. Else it's probably not worth the effort.


--
Erland Sommarskog, SQL Server MVP, esquel (AT) sommarskog (DOT) se

Links for SQL Server Books Online:
SQL 2008: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/sqlserver/cc514207.aspx
SQL 2005: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/sqlserver/bb895970.aspx
SQL 2000: http://www.microsoft.com/sql/prodinf...ons/books.mspx


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JohnH
 
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Default RE: SQL Server error on boot - 10-06-2009 , 07:26 AM



Hi Erland.

Just getting back to you to let you know that the uninstall using Revo
Uninstall seems to have cleared all instances of SQL Server from all my
drives. More importantly I guess, the machine seems to be unaffected.

I made a start with reinstalling SQL Server Express as you suggested but the
software began to install on my backup drive (an external USB drive). There
does not appear to be any way to reconfigure the installation location so I
guess I shall have to disconnect my USB drive and then try again. I'm not in
any particular hurry so I'll do it when I can.

Many thanks for all your help.

Kind regards,
John
--
John


"Erland Sommarskog" wrote:

Quote:
JohnH (JohnH (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com) writes:
Hello Erland - Thanks for the reply. I've decided to have one more go at
uninstalling the whole SQL installation, using a program called Revo
Uninstaller. I've used it before and it can be configured to remove all
traces of a software package. I now have six instances of SQL software
showing up when I scan with Revo Uninstaller. These are:

Hotfix 2050 for SQL Server 2000 ENU (KB948110) - Cannot ID a location
Microsoft SQL Server Compact Edition (ENU) - In C:\Progarm Files\MS SQL
Server
Microsoft SQL Server Desktop Engine (PINNACLESYS) - Cannot ID a location
Microsoft SQL Server Native Client - In C:\Prgram Files\MS SQL Server
Microsoft SQL Server Setup Support Files (English) - In C:\Program
Files\MS SQL Server\90\Setup Bootstrap
Microsoft SQL Server VSS Writer - In C:\Program Files\MS SQL Server (with
subfolders: 80, 90, MSSQL.1)

My thinking is to remove all traces of SQL, including PINNACLESYS and
then to reinstall SQL and if necessary, reinstall Pinnacle's Studio
package. Just one last question for you - Can I remove all the above
instances without causing terminal problems with my machine?

Very many thanks for all your help and support - all much appreciated.

Ah, this is enlightening. It seems that the PINNACLESYS instance
is not meant to be SQL 2005, but SQL 2000. Else it would not say
Desktop Engine. But some of the other files are definitely from
SQL 2005. Note that these are not server instances, but they are
just SQL Server related install items.

Yes, I think that you could just as well try to nuke them. But if
you have a machine to spare, I would first try to make an install
of Pinnacle to see if that works out, and if you get an instance
of SQL 2000 MSDE. Else it's probably not worth the effort.


--
Erland Sommarskog, SQL Server MVP, esquel (AT) sommarskog (DOT) se

Links for SQL Server Books Online:
SQL 2008: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/sqlserver/cc514207.aspx
SQL 2005: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/sqlserver/bb895970.aspx
SQL 2000: http://www.microsoft.com/sql/prodinf...ons/books.mspx


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