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Default Re: database training - 01-21-2008 , 03:29 PM






On 20.01.2008 17:35, Roy Hann wrote:
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"Robert Klemme" <shortcutter (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote in message
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On 14.01.2008 07:23, arunbrawn (AT) yahoo (DOT) com wrote:
For me often learning on a job is more effective [snip].

Yep. It's a cowboy industry and you'll only make yourself unhappy and
unwelcome if you get a proper education. I wish accountants and doctors and
engineers took the same attitude. I'm tired of airliners and coronary
artery bypasses that work well. We should never have given up steam
engines and rebalancing the humors.
I did not discount a proper education - I have a degree in CS myself. A
proper foundation is well worth the money (note that the OP apparently
has as well). And learning on the job does not mean that you do not
learn it properly. You should have quoted the whole sentence: "For me
often learning on a job is more effective - but you need an employer who
is ready to provide the resources (IT and time)." The advantage is
motivation: if I have a real problem to solve it's easier for me to come
up with a proper solution than with training examples which often are
very simplistic and sometimes not even realistic.

Cheers

robert


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Default Re: database training - 01-21-2008 , 03:29 PM






On 20.01.2008 17:35, Roy Hann wrote:
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"Robert Klemme" <shortcutter (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:5vgunpF1llv0qU1 (AT) mid (DOT) individual.net...
On 14.01.2008 07:23, arunbrawn (AT) yahoo (DOT) com wrote:
For me often learning on a job is more effective [snip].

Yep. It's a cowboy industry and you'll only make yourself unhappy and
unwelcome if you get a proper education. I wish accountants and doctors and
engineers took the same attitude. I'm tired of airliners and coronary
artery bypasses that work well. We should never have given up steam
engines and rebalancing the humors.
I did not discount a proper education - I have a degree in CS myself. A
proper foundation is well worth the money (note that the OP apparently
has as well). And learning on the job does not mean that you do not
learn it properly. You should have quoted the whole sentence: "For me
often learning on a job is more effective - but you need an employer who
is ready to provide the resources (IT and time)." The advantage is
motivation: if I have a real problem to solve it's easier for me to come
up with a proper solution than with training examples which often are
very simplistic and sometimes not even realistic.

Cheers

robert


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Robert Klemme
 
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Default Re: database training - 01-21-2008 , 03:29 PM



On 20.01.2008 17:35, Roy Hann wrote:
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"Robert Klemme" <shortcutter (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:5vgunpF1llv0qU1 (AT) mid (DOT) individual.net...
On 14.01.2008 07:23, arunbrawn (AT) yahoo (DOT) com wrote:
For me often learning on a job is more effective [snip].

Yep. It's a cowboy industry and you'll only make yourself unhappy and
unwelcome if you get a proper education. I wish accountants and doctors and
engineers took the same attitude. I'm tired of airliners and coronary
artery bypasses that work well. We should never have given up steam
engines and rebalancing the humors.
I did not discount a proper education - I have a degree in CS myself. A
proper foundation is well worth the money (note that the OP apparently
has as well). And learning on the job does not mean that you do not
learn it properly. You should have quoted the whole sentence: "For me
often learning on a job is more effective - but you need an employer who
is ready to provide the resources (IT and time)." The advantage is
motivation: if I have a real problem to solve it's easier for me to come
up with a proper solution than with training examples which often are
very simplistic and sometimes not even realistic.

Cheers

robert


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