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Default Re: Database design pattern qestion - 04-27-2008 , 09:09 AM






On Mar 19, 5:29*pm, --CELKO-- <jcelko... (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote:
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I have a number of "clients" which report with a string "client_id,client_model,0001001001", when the third part is a binary

string containing client's status. * Each client model can have
various status message length and interpretation. *For each of the
locations in the status message, stands it's description and it's
"importance level".

This is a **very** denormalized design. *That is about all we can say
without more specs. *You have what I call an "Automobiles, Squids and
Britney Spears" design -- many unrelated things forced into a single
structure that mixes data and metadata together, inviolation of any
kindof Normal Form. *You should handle parsing this mess in the front
end before it gets to the database. *Oh, are these binary strings high-
end or low-end, etc.? *Then insert the data into normalized tables.
Holy Crap! I can't believe Joe Celko would respond to a post like
this. (FYI - Celko is actually an author of many good books on SQL).
Are you really Joe Celko? Woland - I'd suggest you read his books
after the Head First one. His stuff is a bit more cerebral and
requires a bit of knowledge.


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Default Re: Database design pattern qestion - 04-27-2008 , 09:09 AM






On Mar 19, 5:29*pm, --CELKO-- <jcelko... (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote:
Quote:
I have a number of "clients" which report with a string "client_id,client_model,0001001001", when the third part is a binary

string containing client's status. * Each client model can have
various status message length and interpretation. *For each of the
locations in the status message, stands it's description and it's
"importance level".

This is a **very** denormalized design. *That is about all we can say
without more specs. *You have what I call an "Automobiles, Squids and
Britney Spears" design -- many unrelated things forced into a single
structure that mixes data and metadata together, inviolation of any
kindof Normal Form. *You should handle parsing this mess in the front
end before it gets to the database. *Oh, are these binary strings high-
end or low-end, etc.? *Then insert the data into normalized tables.
Holy Crap! I can't believe Joe Celko would respond to a post like
this. (FYI - Celko is actually an author of many good books on SQL).
Are you really Joe Celko? Woland - I'd suggest you read his books
after the Head First one. His stuff is a bit more cerebral and
requires a bit of knowledge.


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Default Re: Database design pattern qestion - 04-27-2008 , 09:09 AM



On Mar 19, 5:29*pm, --CELKO-- <jcelko... (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote:
Quote:
I have a number of "clients" which report with a string "client_id,client_model,0001001001", when the third part is a binary

string containing client's status. * Each client model can have
various status message length and interpretation. *For each of the
locations in the status message, stands it's description and it's
"importance level".

This is a **very** denormalized design. *That is about all we can say
without more specs. *You have what I call an "Automobiles, Squids and
Britney Spears" design -- many unrelated things forced into a single
structure that mixes data and metadata together, inviolation of any
kindof Normal Form. *You should handle parsing this mess in the front
end before it gets to the database. *Oh, are these binary strings high-
end or low-end, etc.? *Then insert the data into normalized tables.
Holy Crap! I can't believe Joe Celko would respond to a post like
this. (FYI - Celko is actually an author of many good books on SQL).
Are you really Joe Celko? Woland - I'd suggest you read his books
after the Head First one. His stuff is a bit more cerebral and
requires a bit of knowledge.


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