Nope, PL/I came first.

Nope. PL/I began as an IBM/GUIDE project in 1964. The U.S.
Department of Defense (DoD) set up the ADA project In 1975 and nothing
really happened until 1978 when the Strawman, Woodenman, Tinman,
Ironman, and finally Steelman specs came out.

The ADA project was a gaint "programming contest" with vendors
submitting all kinds of proposals, with an ever-increasing list of
features.

"--CELKO--" <jcelko212 (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote

Apparently the right answer for a "slightly" different question.


The first (IBM) implementation of PL/I was in 1965. A joint draft standard
was published by ANSI and the European Computer Manufacturers Association in
1975.


There were preliminary ADA variants STRAWMAN (1975), WOODENMAN (1975),
TINMAN (1976), IRONMAN (1977), and STEELMAN (1978). The final ADA version
was chosen in 1979.


PL/SQL was released in 1991 for Oracle 6 and ADA was certainly a factor in
its development.

--CELKO-- wrote:
Oracle's PL/SQL not IBM's PL/1 derives from ADA. At least that is my
understanding. I used PL/1 originally in school about a decade before
I heard of ADA, so I know there's no connection that way between ADA
and PL/1.

Joe,
Do you see something similarly happening with JAVA? It is not a feature
addition to the language, but the proliferation of object/class
libraries making it a beast. Any thoughts?

Ed

I had never considered "cancerous classes" as a way for a language to
get out of hand! In one way, having the libraries is an advanatage if
they are standardized, portable, etc. My worry would people writing
their own object/class libraries everytime they do a new program.

Remember a really clever language call FORTH back in 1979? It was
based on a push-down stack and what was called a "threaded interpreted
language" model? The kernel was pretty small and portable, but the
programmer had to add "words" to their "dictionary" -- write their own
RPN operators. This was great for embedded programs that needed to b e
close to the hardware, but the result was that every FORTH programmer
has his own little "mini-language" that nobody else could understand,
ARRRGH!

Am 28 Oct 2006 10:27:47 -0700 schrieb --CELKO--:

It still exists and has a small base of dedicated followers.

Joachim

Am 28 Oct 2006 06:01:48 -0700 schrieb --CELKO--:

Yes, and Sanskrit was before that. What has that to do with PL/SQL
coming from ADA?

Joachim

Joachim Pense <snob (AT) pense-mainz (DOT) eu> wrote:

Oh, it has its uses. PostScript is one dialect.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

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