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karsoods53
 
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Default XML storing and management - 09-26-2007 , 07:16 AM






I get XML feeds as input and have to store this data on our server. I
have worked with databases but new to XML. Can someone tell me how I
can store and manage this data?


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JOG
 
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Default Re: XML storing and management - 09-26-2007 , 08:53 AM






On Sep 26, 1:16 pm, karsoods53 <karsood... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
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I get XML feeds as input and have to store this data on our server. I
have worked with databases but new to XML. Can someone tell me how I
can store and manage this data?
This isn't really the right place for this sort of question - XML is
somewhat of an anathema to a database theory group.

Assuming that you have no choice however, when I have been forced to
deal with XML storage directly I have found Oracle tools to be
adequate..



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Jan Hidders
 
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Default Re: XML storing and management - 09-26-2007 , 09:53 AM



On 26 sep, 14:16, karsoods53 <karsood... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
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I get XML feeds as input and have to store this data on our server. I
have worked with databases but new to XML. Can someone tell me how I
can store and manage this data?
Depends on what you want to do with it, what kind of data it is, what
type of servers you have available or have to use. In general, if the
RDBMS you use already has XML capabilities, that is probably not a bad
choice.

-- Jan Hidders



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Jan Hidders
 
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Default Re: XML storing and management - 09-26-2007 , 10:04 AM



On 26 sep, 15:53, JOG <j... (AT) cs (DOT) nott.ac.uk> wrote:
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On Sep 26, 1:16 pm, karsoods53 <karsood... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

I get XML feeds as input and have to store this data on our server. I
have worked with databases but new to XML. Can someone tell me how I
can store and manage this data?

This isn't really the right place for this sort of question - XML is
somewhat of an anathema to a database theory group.
You might want to inform the good people at database theory
conferences such as PODS and ICDT about this, because they seem to
differ somewhat. I have no doubt they will accept your authority in
these matters immediately. :-)

-- Jan Hidders



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Bob Badour
 
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Default Re: XML storing and management - 09-26-2007 , 10:11 AM



Jan Hidders wrote:

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On 26 sep, 15:53, JOG <j... (AT) cs (DOT) nott.ac.uk> wrote:

On Sep 26, 1:16 pm, karsoods53 <karsood... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

I get XML feeds as input and have to store this data on our server. I
have worked with databases but new to XML. Can someone tell me how I
can store and manage this data?

This isn't really the right place for this sort of question - XML is
somewhat of an anathema to a database theory group.

You might want to inform the good people at database theory
conferences such as PODS and ICDT about this, because they seem to
differ somewhat. I have no doubt they will accept your authority in
these matters immediately. :-)

-- Jan Hidders
Sigh. Such a waste of talent and resources.


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Marshall
 
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Default Re: XML storing and management - 09-26-2007 , 10:17 AM



On Sep 26, 6:53 am, JOG <j... (AT) cs (DOT) nott.ac.uk> wrote:
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On Sep 26, 1:16 pm, karsoods53 <karsood... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

I get XML feeds as input and have to store this data on our server. I
have worked with databases but new to XML. Can someone tell me how I
can store and manage this data?

This isn't really the right place for this sort of question - XML is
somewhat of an anathema to a database theory group.

Assuming that you have no choice however, when I have been forced to
deal with XML storage directly I have found Oracle tools to be
adequate..
Ooooh! An actual thread! It's been so quiet around here.

Hey, we haven't had an actual XML bashing thread in a while;
can we do that now? I'll start. Instead of trotting out my old
favorites, I have a new one I heard the other day.

"The programmer has a problem. His software needs a configuration
file. So he uses XML. Now the programmer has two problems."


Marshall



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Marshall
 
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Default Re: XML storing and management - 09-26-2007 , 10:20 AM



On Sep 26, 5:16 am, karsoods53 <karsood... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
I get XML feeds as input and have to store this data on our server. I
have worked with databases but new to XML. Can someone tell me how I
can store and manage this data?
A lot depends on what you want to do with this data. At the
low end, maybe it's enough to just record the strings. At the
other extreme, perhaps you need a complete schema for
the data coming in, and want to transform the data from
its XML hierarchy into a relational form.


Marshall



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Bob Badour
 
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Default Re: XML storing and management - 09-26-2007 , 12:21 PM



Marshall wrote:

Quote:
On Sep 26, 6:53 am, JOG <j... (AT) cs (DOT) nott.ac.uk> wrote:

On Sep 26, 1:16 pm, karsoods53 <karsood... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

I get XML feeds as input and have to store this data on our server. I
have worked with databases but new to XML. Can someone tell me how I
can store and manage this data?

This isn't really the right place for this sort of question - XML is
somewhat of an anathema to a database theory group.

Assuming that you have no choice however, when I have been forced to
deal with XML storage directly I have found Oracle tools to be
adequate..

Ooooh! An actual thread! It's been so quiet around here.

Hey, we haven't had an actual XML bashing thread in a while;
can we do that now? I'll start. Instead of trotting out my old
favorites, I have a new one I heard the other day.

"The programmer has a problem. His software needs a configuration
file. So he uses XML. Now the programmer has two problems."
Only two?


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thesaboteurs@gmail.com
 
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Default Re: XML storing and management - 09-26-2007 , 01:29 PM



On Sep 26, 4:04 pm, Jan Hidders <hidd... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
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On 26 sep, 15:53, JOG <j... (AT) cs (DOT) nott.ac.uk> wrote:

On Sep 26, 1:16 pm, karsoods53 <karsood... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

I get XML feeds as input and have to store this data on our server. I
have worked with databases but new to XML. Can someone tell me how I
can store and manage this data?

This isn't really the right place for this sort of question - XML is
somewhat of an anathema to a database theory group.

You might want to inform the good people at database theory
conferences such as PODS and ICDT about this, because they seem to
differ somewhat. I have no doubt they will accept your authority in
these matters immediately. :-)

-- Jan Hidders
Heh, point taken. If only they would....



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JOG
 
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Default Re: XML storing and management - 09-26-2007 , 07:19 PM



On Sep 26, 7:29 pm, thesabote... (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote:
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On Sep 26, 4:04 pm, Jan Hidders <hidd... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:



On 26 sep, 15:53, JOG <j... (AT) cs (DOT) nott.ac.uk> wrote:

On Sep 26, 1:16 pm, karsoods53 <karsood... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

I get XML feeds as input and have to store this data on our server. I
have worked with databases but new to XML. Can someone tell me how I
can store and manage this data?

This isn't really the right place for this sort of question - XML is
somewhat of an anathema to a database theory group.

You might want to inform the good people at database theory
conferences such as PODS and ICDT about this, because they seem to
differ somewhat. I have no doubt they will accept your authority in
these matters immediately. :-)

-- Jan Hidders

Heh, point taken. If only they would....
Must start trying to remember i'm not the only person using google
groups in my house Jim.

Ok, so why is it exactly cdt, despite the inherent flaws of a
hierarchical model such as XML, it has seen such widespread uptake?



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