the passing of a champion

#11

On Jul 4, 10:23 pm, Frank Hamersley <terabitemigh... (AT) bigpond (DOT) com>
wrote:

Quote:

Keith H Duggar wrote:

[...]

The WWW has turned
what is typically already open information into closed informa-
tion through sheer lack of intelligence and insight into infor-
mation science and has forced what could have been simple quer-
ies in a straight-forward language into massive amounts of ran-
dom guesswork.

Just playing Devils avocate ... is this lossiness and non determinism
any different to the evolution/collation over the past several thousand
(or more) years of the entire corpus of knowlege (at least that part
that is generally accepted as correct).

That said, given we do have better repositories than (say) the scrolls
in Carthage, I feel we should be obliged to resist the disorder
described by Erik.

Frank.

Do we have better repositories? When our electronics based
civilization falls, will the next be able to "read our texts"?

Ed
---
"Do you think that is air you are breathing? ... Mmm" -- Morpheus

#12

Ed Prochak <edprochak (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:

On Jul 4, 10:23 pm, Frank Hamersley <terabitemigh... (AT) bigpond (DOT) com
wrote:

[snip]

Quote:

That said, given we do have better repositories than (say) the scrolls
in Carthage, I feel we should be obliged to resist the disorder
described by Erik.

Given? I do not think so.

Quote:

Do we have better repositories? When our electronics based
civilization falls, will the next be able to "read our texts"?

The answer may well be NO! See
http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/25.44.html#subj7.1

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

Computerese Irregular Verb Conjugation:
I have preferences.
You have biases.
He/She has prejudices.

#13

On 9 juil, 00:47, Gene Wirchenko <ge... (AT) ocis (DOT) net> wrote:

Quote:

Ed Prochak <edproc... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
On Jul 4, 10:23 pm, Frank Hamersley <terabitemigh... (AT) bigpond (DOT) com
wrote:

[snip]

That said, given we do have better repositories than (say) the scrolls
in Carthage, I feel we should be obliged to resist the disorder
described by Erik.

* * *Given? *I do not think so.

Do we have better repositories? When our electronics based
civilization falls, will the next be able to "read our texts"?

* * *The answer may well be NO! *See
* * * * *http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/25.44.html#subj7.1

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

Computerese Irregular Verb Conjugation:
* * *I have preferences.
* * *You have biases.
* * *He/She has prejudices.
He he he

Given the fact that some of Carthage archives survived many centuries,
only arrogance could one claim the same thing will happen today's data
bags.

#14

Cimode wrote:

Quote:

On 9 juil, 00:47, Gene Wirchenko <ge... (AT) ocis (DOT) net> wrote:
Ed Prochak <edproc... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
On Jul 4, 10:23 pm, Frank Hamersley <terabitemigh... (AT) bigpond (DOT) com
wrote:
[snip]

That said, given we do have better repositories than (say) the scrolls
in Carthage, I feel we should be obliged to resist the disorder
described by Erik.
Given? I do not think so.

[..]

Quote:

He he he
Given the fact that some of Carthage archives survived many centuries,
only arrogance could one claim the same thing will happen today's data
bags.

Define "some"!

In terms of a percentage I got the impression from Carl that
(tragically) a huge body of knowledge was destroyed. Very much the same
as the fragments of original Ancient Greek intellect that was preserved
by the Muslims from the rampages of Western Europe civilising itself.

Cheers, Frank.

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