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Volker Hetzer
 
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Default Re: Modeling question... - 07-25-2008 , 09:05 AM






Bob Badour schrieb:
Quote:
Ooooh! Reinventing EAV with levels...

Possibly. I had a look at
http://ycmi.med.yale.edu/nadkarni/eav_CR_contents.htm and didn't find
anything exciting.
All my attributes (key value pairs) are (for the purpose of this
discussion) strings, so the Data tables hierarchy ends with
EAV_Objects in the first image of that link.
My problem is that, that I haveTest three different "Objects_1"
tables and I'd like to avoid having to replicate the EAV_Objects-Table
for each "Objects_1"-Table.
OTOH, I could have the "level" entities all be children of an id table
and
put the key value pairs into a child of that table. I need to try this
out.

Thanks for providing the pointer!
Volker

Just to be clear, I was more than offering a pointer. I was also
ridiculing the idea of EAV.
I got that. :-)
But "we want to be able to create and delete attributes" is a customer
requirement. I think it's different from "I am too lazy to do a proper data
model". There are plenty of "normal" attributes left to model ERD like.

Lots of Greetings!
Volker
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Volker Hetzer
 
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Default Re: Modeling question... - 07-25-2008 , 09:05 AM






Bob Badour schrieb:
Quote:
Ooooh! Reinventing EAV with levels...

Possibly. I had a look at
http://ycmi.med.yale.edu/nadkarni/eav_CR_contents.htm and didn't find
anything exciting.
All my attributes (key value pairs) are (for the purpose of this
discussion) strings, so the Data tables hierarchy ends with
EAV_Objects in the first image of that link.
My problem is that, that I haveTest three different "Objects_1"
tables and I'd like to avoid having to replicate the EAV_Objects-Table
for each "Objects_1"-Table.
OTOH, I could have the "level" entities all be children of an id table
and
put the key value pairs into a child of that table. I need to try this
out.

Thanks for providing the pointer!
Volker

Just to be clear, I was more than offering a pointer. I was also
ridiculing the idea of EAV.
I got that. :-)
But "we want to be able to create and delete attributes" is a customer
requirement. I think it's different from "I am too lazy to do a proper data
model". There are plenty of "normal" attributes left to model ERD like.

Lots of Greetings!
Volker
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Volker Hetzer
 
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Default Re: Modeling question... - 07-25-2008 , 09:05 AM



Bob Badour schrieb:
Quote:
Ooooh! Reinventing EAV with levels...

Possibly. I had a look at
http://ycmi.med.yale.edu/nadkarni/eav_CR_contents.htm and didn't find
anything exciting.
All my attributes (key value pairs) are (for the purpose of this
discussion) strings, so the Data tables hierarchy ends with
EAV_Objects in the first image of that link.
My problem is that, that I haveTest three different "Objects_1"
tables and I'd like to avoid having to replicate the EAV_Objects-Table
for each "Objects_1"-Table.
OTOH, I could have the "level" entities all be children of an id table
and
put the key value pairs into a child of that table. I need to try this
out.

Thanks for providing the pointer!
Volker

Just to be clear, I was more than offering a pointer. I was also
ridiculing the idea of EAV.
I got that. :-)
But "we want to be able to create and delete attributes" is a customer
requirement. I think it's different from "I am too lazy to do a proper data
model". There are plenty of "normal" attributes left to model ERD like.

Lots of Greetings!
Volker
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Volker Hetzer
 
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Default Re: Modeling question... - 07-25-2008 , 09:05 AM



Bob Badour schrieb:
Quote:
Ooooh! Reinventing EAV with levels...

Possibly. I had a look at
http://ycmi.med.yale.edu/nadkarni/eav_CR_contents.htm and didn't find
anything exciting.
All my attributes (key value pairs) are (for the purpose of this
discussion) strings, so the Data tables hierarchy ends with
EAV_Objects in the first image of that link.
My problem is that, that I haveTest three different "Objects_1"
tables and I'd like to avoid having to replicate the EAV_Objects-Table
for each "Objects_1"-Table.
OTOH, I could have the "level" entities all be children of an id table
and
put the key value pairs into a child of that table. I need to try this
out.

Thanks for providing the pointer!
Volker

Just to be clear, I was more than offering a pointer. I was also
ridiculing the idea of EAV.
I got that. :-)
But "we want to be able to create and delete attributes" is a customer
requirement. I think it's different from "I am too lazy to do a proper data
model". There are plenty of "normal" attributes left to model ERD like.

Lots of Greetings!
Volker
--
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  #45  
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Volker Hetzer
 
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Default Re: Modeling question... - 07-25-2008 , 09:05 AM



Bob Badour schrieb:
Quote:
Ooooh! Reinventing EAV with levels...

Possibly. I had a look at
http://ycmi.med.yale.edu/nadkarni/eav_CR_contents.htm and didn't find
anything exciting.
All my attributes (key value pairs) are (for the purpose of this
discussion) strings, so the Data tables hierarchy ends with
EAV_Objects in the first image of that link.
My problem is that, that I haveTest three different "Objects_1"
tables and I'd like to avoid having to replicate the EAV_Objects-Table
for each "Objects_1"-Table.
OTOH, I could have the "level" entities all be children of an id table
and
put the key value pairs into a child of that table. I need to try this
out.

Thanks for providing the pointer!
Volker

Just to be clear, I was more than offering a pointer. I was also
ridiculing the idea of EAV.
I got that. :-)
But "we want to be able to create and delete attributes" is a customer
requirement. I think it's different from "I am too lazy to do a proper data
model". There are plenty of "normal" attributes left to model ERD like.

Lots of Greetings!
Volker
--
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Volker Hetzer
 
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Default Re: Modeling question... - 07-25-2008 , 09:05 AM



Bob Badour schrieb:
Quote:
Ooooh! Reinventing EAV with levels...

Possibly. I had a look at
http://ycmi.med.yale.edu/nadkarni/eav_CR_contents.htm and didn't find
anything exciting.
All my attributes (key value pairs) are (for the purpose of this
discussion) strings, so the Data tables hierarchy ends with
EAV_Objects in the first image of that link.
My problem is that, that I haveTest three different "Objects_1"
tables and I'd like to avoid having to replicate the EAV_Objects-Table
for each "Objects_1"-Table.
OTOH, I could have the "level" entities all be children of an id table
and
put the key value pairs into a child of that table. I need to try this
out.

Thanks for providing the pointer!
Volker

Just to be clear, I was more than offering a pointer. I was also
ridiculing the idea of EAV.
I got that. :-)
But "we want to be able to create and delete attributes" is a customer
requirement. I think it's different from "I am too lazy to do a proper data
model". There are plenty of "normal" attributes left to model ERD like.

Lots of Greetings!
Volker
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JOG
 
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Default Re: Modeling question... - 07-25-2008 , 09:19 AM



On Jul 25, 3:05 pm, Volker Hetzer <firstname.lastn... (AT) ieee (DOT) org> wrote:
Quote:
Bob Badour schrieb:

Ooooh! Reinventing EAV with levels...

Possibly. I had a look at
http://ycmi.med.yale.edu/nadkarni/ea...ontents.htmand didn't find
anything exciting.
All my attributes (key value pairs) are (for the purpose of this
discussion) strings, so the Data tables hierarchy ends with
EAV_Objects in the first image of that link.
My problem is that, that I haveTest three different "Objects_1"
tables and I'd like to avoid having to replicate the EAV_Objects-Table
for each "Objects_1"-Table.
OTOH, I could have the "level" entities all be children of an id table
and
put the key value pairs into a child of that table. I need to try this
out.

Thanks for providing the pointer!
Volker

Just to be clear, I was more than offering a pointer. I was also
ridiculing the idea of EAV.

I got that. :-)
But "we want to be able to create and delete attributes" is a customer
requirement. I think it's different from "I am too lazy to do a proper data
model". There are plenty of "normal" attributes left to model ERD like.

Lots of Greetings!
Volker
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JOG
 
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Default Re: Modeling question... - 07-25-2008 , 09:19 AM



On Jul 25, 3:05 pm, Volker Hetzer <firstname.lastn... (AT) ieee (DOT) org> wrote:
Quote:
Bob Badour schrieb:

Ooooh! Reinventing EAV with levels...

Possibly. I had a look at
http://ycmi.med.yale.edu/nadkarni/ea...ontents.htmand didn't find
anything exciting.
All my attributes (key value pairs) are (for the purpose of this
discussion) strings, so the Data tables hierarchy ends with
EAV_Objects in the first image of that link.
My problem is that, that I haveTest three different "Objects_1"
tables and I'd like to avoid having to replicate the EAV_Objects-Table
for each "Objects_1"-Table.
OTOH, I could have the "level" entities all be children of an id table
and
put the key value pairs into a child of that table. I need to try this
out.

Thanks for providing the pointer!
Volker

Just to be clear, I was more than offering a pointer. I was also
ridiculing the idea of EAV.

I got that. :-)
But "we want to be able to create and delete attributes" is a customer
requirement. I think it's different from "I am too lazy to do a proper data
model". There are plenty of "normal" attributes left to model ERD like.

Lots of Greetings!
Volker
--
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What's wrong with drop/add column?


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JOG
 
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Default Re: Modeling question... - 07-25-2008 , 09:19 AM



On Jul 25, 3:05 pm, Volker Hetzer <firstname.lastn... (AT) ieee (DOT) org> wrote:
Quote:
Bob Badour schrieb:

Ooooh! Reinventing EAV with levels...

Possibly. I had a look at
http://ycmi.med.yale.edu/nadkarni/ea...ontents.htmand didn't find
anything exciting.
All my attributes (key value pairs) are (for the purpose of this
discussion) strings, so the Data tables hierarchy ends with
EAV_Objects in the first image of that link.
My problem is that, that I haveTest three different "Objects_1"
tables and I'd like to avoid having to replicate the EAV_Objects-Table
for each "Objects_1"-Table.
OTOH, I could have the "level" entities all be children of an id table
and
put the key value pairs into a child of that table. I need to try this
out.

Thanks for providing the pointer!
Volker

Just to be clear, I was more than offering a pointer. I was also
ridiculing the idea of EAV.

I got that. :-)
But "we want to be able to create and delete attributes" is a customer
requirement. I think it's different from "I am too lazy to do a proper data
model". There are plenty of "normal" attributes left to model ERD like.

Lots of Greetings!
Volker
--
For email replies, please substitute the obvious.
What's wrong with drop/add column?


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JOG
 
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Default Re: Modeling question... - 07-25-2008 , 09:19 AM



On Jul 25, 3:05 pm, Volker Hetzer <firstname.lastn... (AT) ieee (DOT) org> wrote:
Quote:
Bob Badour schrieb:

Ooooh! Reinventing EAV with levels...

Possibly. I had a look at
http://ycmi.med.yale.edu/nadkarni/ea...ontents.htmand didn't find
anything exciting.
All my attributes (key value pairs) are (for the purpose of this
discussion) strings, so the Data tables hierarchy ends with
EAV_Objects in the first image of that link.
My problem is that, that I haveTest three different "Objects_1"
tables and I'd like to avoid having to replicate the EAV_Objects-Table
for each "Objects_1"-Table.
OTOH, I could have the "level" entities all be children of an id table
and
put the key value pairs into a child of that table. I need to try this
out.

Thanks for providing the pointer!
Volker

Just to be clear, I was more than offering a pointer. I was also
ridiculing the idea of EAV.

I got that. :-)
But "we want to be able to create and delete attributes" is a customer
requirement. I think it's different from "I am too lazy to do a proper data
model". There are plenty of "normal" attributes left to model ERD like.

Lots of Greetings!
Volker
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