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Query Processing and XML - A Foundation for Intelligent Networks" |
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- XML-Relational DBMS |
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Em Wed, 27 Aug 2003 02:10:37 -0700, akmal @ deja escreveu: Query Processing and XML - A Foundation for Intelligent Networks" What is that doing here? Is someone trying to give XML a theoretical foundation, or is this just spam? |
| - XML-Relational DBMS Is there such a thing? NOT! |
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What is that doing here? Is someone trying to give XML a theoretical foundation, or is this just spam? What is your problem? The poster may be very relevant to people that read this group. |
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Em Wed, 27 Aug 2003 02:10:37 -0700, akmal @ deja escreveu: Query Processing and XML - A Foundation for Intelligent Networks" What is that doing here? Is someone trying to give XML a theoretical foundation, or is this just spam? |
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"Jan Hidders" <jan.hidders (AT) pandora (DOT) be> wrote in message news:8lv3b.6084$HV.28701 (AT) phobos (DOT) telenet-ops.be... Or what about the excellent paper on normal-forms for XML by Marcelo Arenas and Leonid Libkin that got the best paper award at SIGMOD/PODS? As an outsider I wonder what they (i.e. academy) award criteria are. |
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There are so many "interdiscipline" papers! The process goes usually like this: "Look ma, wavelets are really cool. What if we apply them to the database optimization?" Got a paper, got award. |
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In the Information Dependencies case, the really insightful and much more well written paper was by Dalkilic&Roberson ([8]). Much less condenced material, better examples, much better notation -- overall more pleasure to read. Now, application of information dependency to XML normalization may be indeed a revolutionary idea (I honestly don't know), but my suspicion is that the motivation factor was quite similar: "Look, XML really hot, and Information dependencies are cool. What if we marry them?" |
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That alone would certainly not have been enough. If I would have to summarize their major achievement then it is that they managed to characterize the classical normal forms in an information-theoretic way and they managed to generalize this for the XML data model, which is important because the notion of "update anomaly" is less clear there, and justified that way a normal they had introduced earlier. This has (1) deepened our insight into the classical normal forms for the nested and flat relational model and (2) opened the way for more research on normal forms for more complex data models such as the XML data model. |
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"Jan Hidders" <jan.hidders (AT) pandora (DOT) be> wrote in message news:n2x3b.6238$LD6.306225 (AT) phobos (DOT) telenet-ops.be... That alone would certainly not have been enough. If I would have to summarize their major achievement then it is that they managed to characterize the classical normal forms in an information-theoretic way and they managed to generalize this for the XML data model, which is important because the notion of "update anomaly" is less clear there, and justified that way a normal they had introduced earlier. This has (1) deepened our insight into the classical normal forms for the nested and flat relational model and (2) opened the way for more research on normal forms for more complex data models such as the XML data model. I thought that Dalkilic&Robertson should be credited for #1 (for "flat" relations, at least). |
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theoretical issues of the XML data model and query languages where studied? Surely that would be a bit difficult if there wasn't a theoretical foundation, now wouldn't it? |
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On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 22:27:16 +0000, Jan Hidders wrote: theoretical issues of the XML data model and query languages where studied? Surely that would be a bit difficult if there wasn't a theoretical foundation, now wouldn't it? Studying isn't necessarily sane. |
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