Oracle is pleased to announce the availability of Field Test 2
for it's continuing Rdb 7.2 Beta Program. The field test of Oracle
Rdb 7.2 is available to run on OpenVMS Industry Standard 64 for HP
Integrity Servers and for OpenVMS for AlphaServer systems. The
kits are available for download on the Rdb 7.2 Beta program web
site (http://otnbeta.oracle.com/Rdb/index.htm) for registered
Beta customers.

The Field Test 2 kit includes the following products:

- Oracle Rdb for Itanium and Alpha
- Oracle CODASYL DBMS for Itanium and Alpha
- Oracle CDD/Repository for Itanium and Alpha
- Oracle SQL/Services & OCI Services for Rdb for Itanium and
Alpha
- Oracle Rdb Native JDBC Drivers for Itanium and Alpha
- Oracle Replication Option for Rdb for Itanium and Alpha
- Oracle Trace for Rdb for Itanium

Oracle expects to release Oracle Rdb Release 7.2 for production
use in the second half of calendar year 2005. If you have not done
so already, you can register for the Rdb 7.2 Beta Program by
visiting
our Beta Program web site (http://otnbeta.oracle.com/Rdb/index.htm).

Ginger Vollmar
Rdb Beta Programs Administrator
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opinions expressed here are mine and mine alone
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express or represent any opinions or commitment
of oracle corporation.

norman lastovica / oracle rdb engineering

"Norman Lastovica" <norman.lastovica (AT) oracle (DOT) com> wrote

I really wish that OracleRdb would stop mouthing the HP mantra that
Integrity 64 systems are "Industry Standard". I do not observe widespread
acceptance of this particular hardware architecture sufficient to merit the
moniker "Industry Standard".

Upon re-reading - "available to run on OpenVMS Industry Standard 64 for HP
Integrity Servers" I realise that I may have misunderstood.
Is Oracle claiming that OpenVMS is somehow industry standard ratehr than the
Itanic part of HP Integrity Servers?

This quoted phrase is nonsensical to me and must be marketing speak - a
language I do not master.

Dr. Dweeb.

In article <42f14e8d$0$67258$157c6196 (AT) dreader2 (DOT) cybercity.dk>, "Dr. Dweeb" <NOSPAM_5msg0h202 (AT) sneakemail (DOT) com> writes:
"OpenVMS Industry Standard 64" is the formal name of the operating system.
Yes, it's kinda annoying, but don't blame Oracle for it; if they're making a
formal press release, they have to call it by the name its owner calls it.

-- Alan

"Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing" <winston (AT) SSRL (DOT) SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
wrote in message news:00A47BD0.83D0DEBD (AT) SSRL (DOT) SLAC.STANFORD.EDU...
OK. That is information I did not possess. Thanks. Ginger & Norm are
excused.
Now, please knife the idiot who coined that phrase and the intellectual
lightweights who authorised its use.

I will now go outside and puke.

Dr. Dweeb.

In article <42f14e8d$0$67258$157c6196 (AT) dreader2 (DOT) cybercity.dk>, "Dr. Dweeb" <NOSPAM_5msg0h202 (AT) sneakemail (DOT) com> writes:
Unfortunately as Sue Skonetski posted in February 2003 HP's official name for
OpenVMS on Itanium is

"hp OpenVMS Industry Standard 64"

which should be used in any title, heading or first mention in body text of the
product.


see

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...db4bfd2?hl=en&





David Webb
Security team leader
CCSS
Middlesex University

In article <42f16031$0$67257$157c6196 (AT) dreader2 (DOT) cybercity.dk>, "Dr. Dweeb"
<NOSPAM_5msg0h202 (AT) sneakemail (DOT) com> wrote:

"OpenVMS Industry Standard 64" is indeed the name of the operating system.

Nobody particularly likes it. The "idiot" (your term) who came up with it
doesn't like it either. All the reasonable names run up against Intel
trademark problems, and getting permission to use them would have required
some poor soul to spend months dealing with lawyers in at least two big,
dumb corporations, with no guarantee of success. Meanwhile V8.2 would
have been held up waiting for a name.

But this was more information you did not possess, so naturally you just
assume other folks are idiots and should be knifed.

Go knife yourself.

Robert Deininger wrote:

....

All the reasonable names run up against Intel
You mean that Intel has actually trademarked 'Itanic'?!

Or does that fail your personal test for reasonableness?

- bill

"Robert Deininger" <rdeininger (AT) mindspringdot (DOT) com> wrote

You ?

I see.

VMS for Itanium cannot exist without a new name?
One of the few OS's supporting Itanium cannot use the Itanium name - the
architecture which HP co-invented/developed ?

It would appear that it was not to be a problem for Microsoft and their
"Windows Server 2003 64-bit Itanium Edition"

We should simply accept that HP, which is about to become a company 99%
dependent upon the will of Intel for the survival of all their PC and
enterprise systems is not on sufficiently good terms with Intel to be able
to use the Itanium name on their products. You guys must be in worse shape
than I thought.

With partners like Intel, HP apparently does not need enemies !

I do not possess all information any more than you do.

"Saucer of milk, table 3 please"

Dr. Dweeb.

david20 (AT) alpha2 (DOT) mdx.ac.uk wrote:
Okay, as long as they don't start abbreviating it OVIS, because then
we'd need a different mascot. Would it be "a sheep in shark's clothing"
or "a shark in sheep's clothing" I wonder. Maybe someone could work
something up like a sheep with a shark head.;-)

I wonder what other buzz-words we could surround VMS with that would
improve its image even further?

WhoDat? wrote:
many were so sure that when we were burdened with OpenVMS as a name that
things couldn't get worse. Not only is it worse, but it makes OpenVMS
seem reasonable.

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