Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL Training

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On 12 Dec 2003, Chris Travers wrote:

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Date: 12 Dec 2003 20:46:57 +0800
From: Chris Travers <chris (AT) travelamericas (DOT) com
To: Keith C. Perry <netadmin (AT) vcsn (DOT) com
Cc: Bret Busby <bret (AT) busby (DOT) net>, pgsql-novice (AT) postgresql (DOT) org,
pgsql-general (AT) postgresql (DOT) org
Subject: Re: [GENERAL] [NOVICE] PostgreSQL Training

On Fri, 2003-12-12 at 02:04, Keith C. Perry wrote:

Agreed. However-- there is a push in the IT world (much resisted here)
to try to make sysadmin/DBA positions more of a technician-oriented
rather than academic oriented. The idea here is that it reduces IT
costs (perhaps, though, at the expense of returns).

I think it just the opposite- or perhaps better said, its starting to chance. I
think many companies have learned that a piece of paper is just that- especially
in the case of certs. This is not to say that there are exceptions but lets
face it, it really comes down to what a person has actually done. The change
I'm seeing is that the decision making folks are more often asking "what have
you done and how can we confirm" instead of "what are you certified/degreed in
and can we see the paper"

I still think that there is a movement in many businesses to see the
role of DBA, sysadmin, etc. as that of a glorified technician rather
than a really serious professional. Certifications are a part of it,
but it is a broader pattern. This is especially true of the market of
mid-size businesses. The larger businesses tend to have the lower ranks
manned by glorified techs, while the upper ranks are managed by the more
academic types.

I assume from the content of the above paragraph, that certification is
regarded as applying to only administartors, be they DBA's or Systems or
Network Administrators.

However, certifications such as the MCAD and MCSD, exist, for
applications and solutions developers, and, there are offered by USA
universities, across the Internet, certificates in web programming; in
other words, also, applications developers.

The MySQL certifications, from what I understand, the four
certifications, two existing and two planned, to which I have
previously alluded, cover both administrators and developers.

To cover both areas, are important, and, no doubt, equally important, so
that developers, in addition to administrators, can obtain
certifications that relecvt and afford recongition of, their skills.

--
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
...............

"So once you do know what the question actually is,
you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
Chapter 28 of
"The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
A Trilogy In Four Parts",
written by Douglas Adams,
published by Pan Books, 1992
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