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Rasputin Paskudniak
 
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Default Quickie Forms-Based Application Builder for PostgreSQL? - 08-25-2009 , 06:51 AM






Greetings.

Although a newbie at PostgreSQL, I have jumped right in to write the SQL
scripts to create the tables in my database, including foreign key
constraints and many-to-many relations. The problem now is that in
order to use these tables, I will need a forms-based application
builder. I have yet to learn Java and Python and the like.

Informix has (or had?) isql to help folks compose a simple forms-based
app to access and update the database. We used 4GL for more complex
forms-based apps. Is there a similar (in spirit) application builder
built-in to PostgreSQL to accomplish the same? The most sophisticated
feature I need for now (I think) would be the ability to open a
drop-down menu whose data is selected from another table.

Any suggestions? OK, any friendly, useful suggestions? ;-)

Thanks much.
-- Rasputin

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Thomas Kellerer
 
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Default Re: Quickie Forms-Based Application Builder for PostgreSQL? - 08-25-2009 , 07:34 AM






Rasputin Paskudniak, 25.08.2009 13:51:
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Informix has (or had?) isql to help folks compose a simple forms-based
app to access and update the database. We used 4GL for more complex
forms-based apps. Is there a similar (in spirit) application builder
built-in to PostgreSQL to accomplish the same? The most sophisticated
feature I need for now (I think) would be the ability to open a
drop-down menu whose data is selected from another table.

Any suggestions? OK, any friendly, useful suggestions? ;-)
I have no experience with it, but there is a development environment called once:radix which seems to promise to do exactly what you need. It's Postgres based and OpenSource:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/onceradix/
http://www.oncetechnologies.com/newo...onceradix.html

Thomas

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Rasputin Paskudniak
 
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Default Re: Quickie Forms-Based Application Builder for PostgreSQL? - 08-25-2009 , 02:20 PM



Thomas Kellerer wrote:
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Rasputin Paskudniak, 25.08.2009 13:51:
Informix has (or had?) isql to help folks compose a simple forms-based
app to access and update the database. We used 4GL for more complex
forms-based apps. Is there a similar (in spirit) application builder
built-in to PostgreSQL to accomplish the same? The most sophisticated
feature I need for now (I think) would be the ability to open a
drop-down menu whose data is selected from another table.

Any suggestions? OK, any friendly, useful suggestions? ;-)

I have no experience with it, but there is a development environment
called once:radix which seems to promise to do exactly what you need.
It's Postgres based and OpenSource:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/onceradix/
http://www.oncetechnologies.com/newo...onceradix.html

Thomas
SIGHHhhh....
Tom, that was one promising idea. I downloaded onceradix and unzipped
(actually, unpacked) it. Looking at the installation web page, it
requires java and something called tomcat. Well, tomcat was installable
from Synaptec Package Manager. I chose tomcat6 over tomcat5.5. But the
installation has some rules about where things should be installed,
locations that Ubuntu does not comply with. The alternative is to edit
a smörgåsbord of configuration files.

I believe this is what is known is a "can of worms". I may revisit this
product in the future; it seems like the perfect developer environment,
once past the installation hurdles. And since I am just a single user,
not a business, I probably can't afford the installation help they are
obviously trying to sell.

I think I'll hold out for another solution here. Who knows, maybe I
ought to put aside Perl and pick up the PHP books I have stashed away...

Thanks much for a very worthwhile try.

-- Rasputin

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Thomas Kellerer
 
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Default Re: Quickie Forms-Based Application Builder for PostgreSQL? - 08-26-2009 , 02:44 PM



Rasputin Paskudniak wrote on 25.08.2009 21:20:
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I have no experience with it, but there is a development environment
called once:radix which seems to promise to do exactly what you need.
It's Postgres based and OpenSource:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/onceradix/
http://www.oncetechnologies.com/newo...onceradix.html

Thomas

SIGHHhhh....
Tom, that was one promising idea. I downloaded onceradix and unzipped
(actually, unpacked) it. Looking at the installation web page, it
requires java and something called tomcat. Well, tomcat was installable
from Synaptec Package Manager. I chose tomcat6 over tomcat5.5. But the
installation has some rules about where things should be installed,
locations that Ubuntu does not comply with. The alternative is to edit
a smörgåsbord of configuration files.

I believe this is what is known is a "can of worms".
Well it's a regular Java based web application (JavaEE). As I'm working in that environment it seems perfectly easy to install for me even with non-default paths (which I usually do as well).

Tomcat can simply be "installed" by unzipping the archive that is available from the Apache website, but if you have never used it before I can understand that it's probably quite confusing...

Regards
Thomas

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Thomas Kellerer
 
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Default Re: Quickie Forms-Based Application Builder for PostgreSQL? - 08-27-2009 , 04:46 PM



Rasputin Paskudniak wrote on 25.08.2009 21:20:
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I think I'll hold out for another solution here. Who knows, maybe I
ought to put aside Perl and pick up the PHP books I have stashed away...
There is another one which seems to be very similar to once:radix

http://www.wavemaker.com

It has installer packages for Windows and Linux, so it might be easier to install than once:radix.

I found it here:
http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Comm...eSQL_GUI_Tools

Regards
Thomas

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Jochen Lutz
 
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Default Re: Quickie Forms-Based Application Builder for PostgreSQL? - 08-29-2009 , 04:25 AM



Rasputin Paskudniak <rpaskudniak (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
Informix has (or had?) isql to help folks compose a simple forms-based
app to access and update the database. We used 4GL for more complex
forms-based apps. Is there a similar (in spirit) application builder
built-in to PostgreSQL to accomplish the same? The most sophisticated
feature I need for now (I think) would be the ability to open a
drop-down menu whose data is selected from another table.

Any suggestions? OK, any friendly, useful suggestions? ;-)
Depending on the complexity of your database, Gedafe [1] might be an
option. It has rather strict requirements in database design (unique
field names), but with that fullfilled (and, optionally, some metada-
ta in the database, it builds the frontend automatically.

[1] http://isg.ee.ethz.ch/tools/gedafe/


Jochen

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