I'm giving a series of training courses to a group of trainees who will
be practising their skills on the Personal Edition of UV. One of them
wants to move any deleted data to the Windows RECYCLE BIN before she
deletes them from the UV files.

Question: Where is the Windows RECYCLE BIN?

regards

Malcolm Bull

how long is a piece of string? it depends...

normally the root of the hard drive - if multiple hard drives, then
multiple copies of Recycle bin.

To get the data into the Recycle Bin, simply use Windows Explorer to
delete the data - that way the data can easily be restored by clicking
"restore" when the Recycle Bin is open.

Bear in mind that one can change the location, for example I may have a
small C:\ drive and a much bigger D:\ drive and so I choose to put the
recycle bin on D:\.

One can also rename the thing so look for synonyms like Trash, or
Vullis (afrikaans for trash!)

hope that helps!

Malcolm,

It's usually a hidden folder (directory) name RECYCLED on each drive,
but this location can be specified by right clicking on the recycle
icon.

As I recall that icon is one of the hardest to remove, for those of us
who like very clean desktops.

If your question was tongue in cheek, I don't have an answer.

Malcolm,

I don't think you want to do that. Its too easy to clear the recycle
bin. I would suggest creating a UV file (or directory) and then
copying the data to this file before deleting it. You could rename the
id (filename*id) before copying it. This way you're protecting the
PICK data yet still giving the same benefit as the recycle bin.

Rick Weiser
DesignBais International

Rick Weiser wrote:
I agree with Rick. Save the data on UV, not in the recycle bin! This
person lacks the elementary understanding of the difference between
DOS/WIN style files/data and UV hashed/frame style of recording data.
Even if you could get the data to the recycle bin, it would be
disastrous to try to restore the data to UV using the recycle bin
restore function.

BTW: A piece of string is twice as long as from the center to either
end.

Dave Weaver, Weaver Consulting

Rick Weiser wrote:
I agree with Rick. Save the data on UV, not in the recycle bin! This
person lacks the elementary understanding of the difference between
DOS/WIN style files/data and UV hashed/frame style of recording data.
Even if you could get the data to the recycle bin, it would be
disastrous to try to restore the data to UV using the recycle bin
restore function.

BTW: A piece of string is twice as long as from the center to either
end.

Dave Weaver, Weaver Consulting

MBTraining (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote:

Has she thought about what she'd like to happen on CLEAR.FILEs etc.?

Mike.

MBTraining (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote:

The Windows Recycle Bin is a system resource which is accessible
programmatically. When items in UV are deleted you can have a trigger
copy the data through a Win32 API call to the Recycle Bin. Otherwise
there are no guarantees that the recycle bin will get a record of data
that is deleted programmatically through the UV file update process.
to keep such items unique, save them to Windows with a unique
timestamp, then programmatically remove them. If restoring, use the
recycle bin recovery process, then programmatically pull the items
back into UV, minus the time stamp.

All that said, this is not the way to do deletion/recovery but it does
answer the original question. UV/MV are powerful enough to do
anything you ask - but as the proverb says, "be careful about what you
ask for because you might get it". If you want to recover data later,
try integrating with a version control system like PRC or use one of
the techniques described in this forum and elswhere to tie in to
CVS/RCS/subversion, etc.

Many ways to skin this cat but your user is asking how to do it with a
dull spoon. I suggest something sharper.

HTH.
T

I always wondered who wrote the Microsoft manuals. You have been
moonlighting all this time
Peter McMurray