Dear All,

I upgraded one of my site to 7.5.2 but had downloaded it back to
7.4.4 in less than 24 hrs.

Problem 1

- lines will be locked by D3's own process (Wrapupsub) and can't free
back the user license (dev-kill, reset-user (x.., etc) until reboot
the system

Problem 2

- this is more horrible
- same set of data and programs will generate out 2 different result
between 7.5.2 and 7.4.4
- some details is missing in 7.5.2 and the figure is incorrect as well
- reason = unknown


I am wondering how RD does the QA & QC nowadays, we will definitely
encounter problem(s) in each new release. Each time is different
issues which it is very difficult to do a pre-test b4 deploy to the
production environment.


Rgds,

Hi
Most important what are you running RH or Windows?
Is the code Flash Compiled or a simple BASIC/COMPILE?
Are you using the VME or FSI?
I am Most concerned as I intend to do this on Thursday and have had no major
problems on my own machine (Indices excluded :-) )
Peter McMurray
"skypirate" <singdad (AT) singdad (DOT) no-ip.com> wrote

On Feb 13, 10:39 am, "Peter McMurray" <excalibu... (AT) bigpond (DOT) com> wrote:

Peter,

7.5.2 indicates this is D3/NT (which I assumed you also guessed from
the FSI references - but you are right, full designation can help)

I wouldn't do that upgrade on Thursday .... call me if you want details

"skypirate" wrote:
You know all those nasty things that over the years I've been saying
would happen if people didn't run betas or report problems?
They happened...

T

On Feb 12, 5:31 pm, Tony Gravagno
<g6q3x9lu53... (AT) sneakemail (DOT) com.invalid> wrote:
Just as importantly .. this happens when a company really doesn't care
about or use the products they ship. My guess is that RD is not
running all systems with this release. I could be wrong but this
should have been found by them.

As for reporting things to them .. i have tried 3 times to get access
to their forum .. i have received no reply except the automated '.. we
really care and will be back to you .. ' message.

Although I agree with you that the 'user community' for any product
must hold the mother ships feet to the fire .. if only i could
connect with the mother ship

skypirate ha scritto:
I have some customers on D3/NT 7.5.2 without any noticeable issue.
The main 'difference' with the D3/Nt 7.x.x I found is the LPV
behavior: check the dicts with LPV in a place different than the
very first position after the F.
Regards,
Stefano

david wrote:

RD runs all of their apps over D3 Linux, so it's no surprise NT has
more issues.

This might be considered getting defensive though most people here
know most of my ties with RD have been severed - it's not lack of
caring that influences the software quality at RD, it's lack of
resources. What I indicated above is the consistent downward spiral
where:
1 people don't report issues, so they don't get fixed
2 more people find issues and dump the software
3 there's less funding due to lost customers so people get let go
4 with less people doing QA more bugs creep in
5 goto 2

I find it interesting that people who migrate to other platforms have
no reservation about contacting their new DBMS vendor even when they
felt indignant about doing so with RD. I'll acknowledge that some
people have had issues with RD Support, and they chose to migrate
rather than escallate their issues to management. Though the number
of people complaining about personal issues with support is way out of
line with the number of sites that migrate, so this isn't an excuse.

You missed the part where they say the forum is not for official
support, it's for public discussion. If you have official issues and
you have a current support agreement, call or email Support.

Hmm, I never made a statement quite like that but I do believe the
inmates should take more part in running this prison.

If you have issues contacting your vendor, why don't you call their
800 line and either ask for Support or ask your Sales rep to process
your request for access to the forum? This isn't just put to you
directly Dave - taking this step seems to be extremely difficult for
many people. Though after a lot of public indignation we usually find
out people who can't get through to support usually don't have a
current support agreement either.

Dead horse still being beaten, sorry.
T

On Feb 14, 7:48 am, stefano <stef... (AT) friuldata (DOT) it> wrote:

Hmmm, interesting. We just uncovered a problem with LPV this week on
D3/Linux 7.4.2 A239 ...

What I indicated above is the consistent downward spiral
The only thing that has changed over the years are 3 and 4. However, most
companies lose customers. The big difference here is they are not being
replaced.

Upgrading without necessity is folly, imo.

Hi Jeff
I have allowed sites to carry on with old established versions although I
have insisted on RD maintenance. However I have just discovered from Ross
Ferris that the new you beaut bangers that are all one can buy today will
not run 7.2.1 successfully. So it really is necessary to upgrade
occasionally.

I totally disagree with Tony that people don't report issues so they don't
get fixed. It is the other way around, for many years people who did report
issues got ignored so they gave up and continued using the work arounds.
Personally I feel that all would be much better if they threw out half the
Linux boxes and started using Microsoft like the real world for their day to
day work. If the situation has now changed it is unfortunate that the horse
may have bolted.
Regards
Peter McMurray
"Jeff Caspari" <FDFDFDFD (AT) sneakernet (DOT) com.invalid> wrote