Hi All

Anyone one out there know of any commercial or otherwise MV version
control software... besides PRC?

Regards
Justin

Justin,

PRC is very good for MV in my opinion but you could look at non-MV
related products like Perforce (www.perforce.com). jBASE used to use
it to control development a few years ago, not sure what they are using
now. Of cource it won't track Dict or Proc changes and your program
files need to be Directory based but it is a very good product.

Rick Weiser
DesignBais International

On Dec 13, 11:30 pm, "Juss" <justingledh... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

I've been thinking about this a lot lately. PRC is the defacto
standard because it's much more than just a VCS. But for some it's
overkill and it's not really of use to anyone where System Builder
isn't suitable - that includes all D3 sites and other MV platforms.

The next option for basic VCS might be to wrap 'cvs' or 'subversion'
in triggers and calls to the host OS. As always, I'd do this as a
commercial venture but getting people to actually buy it might be
tough.

<mini soapbox>
I'm sure some people will clamor that such tools should be open
source, but this is where Pick people confuse freedom with free beer.
All of the burden falls on a select few to spend their time just so
that others can sell solutions to their user base - there's very
little equity in this market. Solve that problem and we'd probably
have a lot more solutions available to us. Until that problem is
solved we simply do without as the 'demand' side of the market remains
indignant about paying for software and the 'supply' side of the
market spends its time on projects that actually feeds their families.
</>

T

Intuit Eclipse has outstanding version control functionality build into its
development system.

I'm not sure how much I can tell you that isn't proprietary, but it has
program locking, an intelligent numbering system (ex: v12.345 would imply a
lot more than a simple sequential numbering format would suggest), a compare
module which shows all changes to a program from one version to the next,
historical archiving, unlimited undo while you're developing (neat if you're
testing and need to go back a few versions), and a lot more. It's not well
documented, but they might be willing to sell/train to a non-competitor
(Distribution).

It's used in-house, and I don't know if it's ever been sold, but it might be
worth a look.

http://www.eclipseinc.com/

Ed

"Juss" <justingledhill (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

Hi
Why not use the system that comes with Visual Basic. I think that it will
allow any text file to be controlled and basic programs are simply that.
Peter McMurray
"Juss" <justingledhill (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

"Excalibur" wrote:
Ask anyone who has lost their software in the bowels of VSS, and
you'll know exactly why not. That reminds me - be sure any software
you keep in a vcs is backed-up elsewhere as plain text. The vcs is
supposed to be insurance against some problems, but then you need
insurance against a corrupted vcs repository.

VSS is also MS-centric and an appropriate solution would need to be
very cross-platform capable.

BTW, I forgot to mention GNU Arch, another entry in the collection of
vcs competitors.

T

Hi

PE editor have very simple SC (save versions, 'check in' and 'check
out', rollback, compare, history). PE is free, open source and saves
data on server (D3 or UniVerse).

MS VSS interesting only for Visual Studio developers (integrity). I
using VSS 10 years with C++ VB, InterDev and never lost data.

Regards,
Grigory

Juss wrote:
I'm curious...why not PRC? --dawn

Hi Dawn
I may be remembering incorrectly but isn't PRC the product that we saw at
Spectrum a couple of years ago that started at $US20,000 and went up. The
lady certainly new her stuff and had Sarbanes-Oxley off pat but how could
any small software house afford that. After all it is just a tool and
therefore has to have a significant payback. Like Grigory mentioned his is
part of the Briz package.
Peter McMurray
"dawn" <dawnwolthuis (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

Excalibur wrote:
That would be cdp's BobJ's daughter and as best I can tell, she does
know her stuff.

That was my first guess, but he didn't mention dollars in his
requirements just "not PRC" so I was curious. --dawn