Updating MV Family Tree

#71

Thiot wrote:

Quote:

Let's not forget that Lionel Singer had a deal with Wicat and as such
was referred to by the Wicat folks as Wicat Australia whether that was
the company name or not. Lionel as I understand it was the hold of the
Pick license for Wicat and then he had an agreement with the hardware
manufacturer, Wicat to market Pick on Wicat everywhere but Australia.
Gus Giobbi can confirm this but it was Lionel who coordinated Tina
Turner for that Spectrum Show and that was right before her
re-emergence on to the musical scene. Lionel also had "golden
toothpicks" at that show that he referred to as "Pick Gold". Wicat was
the first commercially available computer with a Motorola 68000
processor and beat the market by 8 months. That year they went from $3
mil to $24 mil in sales. Their first O/S was proprietary mainly
oriented towards their authoring applications but they also licensed
Unix and Pick.

If anyone can add more light into all of this please jump in.

Lionel also had the good sense to steal John Perrin from AWA. John went
to the US to do the 68K port with the Pick Systems guys.

I remember the Tina Turner show. There was a lot of money sloshing
around in MV in those days. How things have changed.

Luke

#72

Please reply to hbkeultjes at earthlink dot net

I don't recall any 68K port that Pick Systems itself did and was
available in the USA.

Did Pick Systems do that port for Wicat specifically, rather than Wicat
doing that themselves like ADDS did here in the USA.

As to the first port on the 68K, I am reasonably sure that was not
true. At the first ever Comdex in Anaheim, the infamous one in the
tents at 100F+ , there was vendor with a very small, for that time, 68K
system running Pick. I can still kind of see in my mind the guy who
run a company, a guy with a PhD, kind of short Italian or Eastern
European looking.

Anyone else able to fill in those details?

Henry Keultjes
Database Scientifics Project http://www.ncolug.org/ppc.htm
Microdyne Company
Mansfield Ohio USA

Luke Webber wrote:

Quote:

Thiot wrote:
Let's not forget that Lionel Singer had a deal with Wicat and as such
was referred to by the Wicat folks as Wicat Australia whether that was
the company name or not. Lionel as I understand it was the hold of the
Pick license for Wicat and then he had an agreement with the hardware
manufacturer, Wicat to market Pick on Wicat everywhere but Australia.
Gus Giobbi can confirm this but it was Lionel who coordinated Tina
Turner for that Spectrum Show and that was right before her
re-emergence on to the musical scene. Lionel also had "golden
toothpicks" at that show that he referred to as "Pick Gold". Wicat was
the first commercially available computer with a Motorola 68000
processor and beat the market by 8 months. That year they went from $3
mil to $24 mil in sales. Their first O/S was proprietary mainly
oriented towards their authoring applications but they also licensed
Unix and Pick.

If anyone can add more light into all of this please jump in.

Lionel also had the good sense to steal John Perrin from AWA. John went
to the US to do the 68K port with the Pick Systems guys.

I remember the Tina Turner show. There was a lot of money sloshing
around in MV in those days. How things have changed.

Luke

#73

Jim Idle wrote:

Quote:

Peter McMurray wrote:
"dawn" <dawnwolthuis (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
In Australia the Microdata REALITY was marketed by AWA and became the ROYALE

I guess it should have been the quarter pounder in the US then!

John Travolta.

<rimshot>
--
Cheers,
SDM -- a 21st century schizoid man
Systems Theory internet music project links:
soundclick <www.soundclick.com/systemstheory>
garageband <http://www.garageband.com/artist/systemstheory>
"Soundtracks For Imaginary Movies" CD released Dec 2004
"Codetalkers" CD coming end of 2005
NP: nothing

#74

csigline (AT) hotmail (DOT) com wrote:

Quote:

Please reply to hbkeultjes at earthlink dot net

I don't recall any 68K port that Pick Systems itself did and was
available in the USA.

Did Pick Systems do that port for Wicat specifically, rather than Wicat
doing that themselves like ADDS did here in the USA.

As to the first port on the 68K, I am reasonably sure that was not
true. At the first ever Comdex in Anaheim, the infamous one in the
tents at 100F+ , there was vendor with a very small, for that time, 68K
system running Pick. I can still kind of see in my mind the guy who
run a company, a guy with a PhD, kind of short Italian or Eastern
European looking.

I recall walking into a loading dock in Irvine or Santa Ana, handing
over a check, and carrying the Pertec under my arm back to my car. What
a difference from Microdata or Ultimate! But then I also remember "The
Computer Store" in Santa Monica, the "world's only computer store".

Bill Cooke

Quote:

Anyone else able to fill in those details?

Henry Keultjes
Database Scientifics Project http://www.ncolug.org/ppc.htm
Microdyne Company
Mansfield Ohio USA

#75

Bill Cooke wrote:

Quote:

csigline (AT) hotmail (DOT) com wrote:
Please reply to hbkeultjes at earthlink dot net

I don't recall any 68K port that Pick Systems itself did and was
available in the USA.

Did Pick Systems do that port for Wicat specifically, rather than Wicat
doing that themselves like ADDS did here in the USA.

As to the first port on the 68K, I am reasonably sure that was not
true. At the first ever Comdex in Anaheim, the infamous one in the
tents at 100F+ , there was vendor with a very small, for that time, 68K
system running Pick. I can still kind of see in my mind the guy who
run a company, a guy with a PhD, kind of short Italian or Eastern
European looking.

I recall walking into a loading dock in Irvine or Santa Ana, handing
over a check, and carrying the Pertec under my arm back to my car. What
a difference from Microdata or Ultimate! But then I also remember "The
Computer Store" in Santa Monica, the "world's only computer store".

I remember in late 1981 sitting in a Scripps Ranch area coffee shop
with two executives from the company I was with at the time (Monitor
Labs). They wanted my professional opinion about "personal computers".
Was there any future in them, and did I think a personal computer
store might be a good business? I said "yes" and "yes", but I hedged
my bets, and I also told them I thought Apple was the smart way to go.
I did manage to tell them that Atari wouldn't be the winner. Good
guesswork there! They did alright, despite me, eventually being bought
out by Businessland IIRC.
--
Cheers,
SDM -- a 21st century schizoid man
Systems Theory internet music project links:
soundclick <www.soundclick.com/systemstheory>
garageband <http://www.garageband.com/artist/systemstheory>
"Soundtracks For Imaginary Movies" CD released Dec 2004
"Codetalkers" CD coming Spring 2006
NP: The Australian Pink Floyd Show "Live In Liverpool" DVD

#76

csigline (AT) hotmail (DOT) com wrote:

Quote:

Please reply to hbkeultjes at earthlink dot net

Why not keep it in CDP?

Quote:

I don't recall any 68K port that Pick Systems itself did and was
available in the USA.

Did Pick Systems do that port for Wicat specifically, rather than Wicat
doing that themselves like ADDS did here in the USA.

As to the first port on the 68K, I am reasonably sure that was not
true. At the first ever Comdex in Anaheim, the infamous one in the
tents at 100F+ , there was vendor with a very small, for that time, 68K
system running Pick. I can still kind of see in my mind the guy who
run a company, a guy with a PhD, kind of short Italian or Eastern
European looking.

Thiot didn't actually say it was the first 68K port, but just that the
Wicat was the first commercially available 68K-based system. Not the
first 68K Pick system. I can't personally speak for either claim,
because those memories have gone with most of my high school maths. It
ran another OS as well, which was used for computer-based training. In
fact, WICAT stood for something very like "World Institute for Computer
Aided Training".

Luke

Quote:

Anyone else able to fill in those details?

Henry Keultjes
Database Scientifics Project http://www.ncolug.org/ppc.htm
Microdyne Company
Mansfield Ohio USA

Luke Webber wrote:

Thiot wrote:

Let's not forget that Lionel Singer had a deal with Wicat and as such
was referred to by the Wicat folks as Wicat Australia whether that was
the company name or not. Lionel as I understand it was the hold of the
Pick license for Wicat and then he had an agreement with the hardware
manufacturer, Wicat to market Pick on Wicat everywhere but Australia.
Gus Giobbi can confirm this but it was Lionel who coordinated Tina
Turner for that Spectrum Show and that was right before her
re-emergence on to the musical scene. Lionel also had "golden
toothpicks" at that show that he referred to as "Pick Gold". Wicat was
the first commercially available computer with a Motorola 68000
processor and beat the market by 8 months. That year they went from $3
mil to $24 mil in sales. Their first O/S was proprietary mainly
oriented towards their authoring applications but they also licensed
Unix and Pick.

If anyone can add more light into all of this please jump in.

Lionel also had the good sense to steal John Perrin from AWA. John went
to the US to do the 68K port with the Pick Systems guys.

I remember the Tina Turner show. There was a lot of money sloshing
around in MV in those days. How things have changed.

Luke

#77

Bill Cooke wrote:

Quote:

csigline (AT) hotmail (DOT) com wrote:

Please reply to hbkeultjes at earthlink dot net

I don't recall any 68K port that Pick Systems itself did and was
available in the USA.

Did Pick Systems do that port for Wicat specifically, rather than Wicat
doing that themselves like ADDS did here in the USA.

As to the first port on the 68K, I am reasonably sure that was not
true. At the first ever Comdex in Anaheim, the infamous one in the
tents at 100F+ , there was vendor with a very small, for that time, 68K
system running Pick. I can still kind of see in my mind the guy who
run a company, a guy with a PhD, kind of short Italian or Eastern
European looking.

I recall walking into a loading dock in Irvine or Santa Ana, handing
over a check, and carrying the Pertec under my arm back to my car. What
a difference from Microdata or Ultimate! But then I also remember "The
Computer Store" in Santa Monica, the "world's only computer store".

I don't, so clue me in if you would. What was sold in the world's only

computer store? Was the Pick OS loaded on anything? If not, what OS's
were? When did it exist?
Thanks. --dawn

#78

dawn wrote:

Quote:

Bill Cooke wrote:
csigline (AT) hotmail (DOT) com wrote:

Please reply to hbkeultjes at earthlink dot net

I don't recall any 68K port that Pick Systems itself did and was
available in the USA.

Did Pick Systems do that port for Wicat specifically, rather than Wicat
doing that themselves like ADDS did here in the USA.

As to the first port on the 68K, I am reasonably sure that was not
true. At the first ever Comdex in Anaheim, the infamous one in the
tents at 100F+ , there was vendor with a very small, for that time, 68K
system running Pick. I can still kind of see in my mind the guy who
run a company, a guy with a PhD, kind of short Italian or Eastern
European looking.

I recall walking into a loading dock in Irvine or Santa Ana, handing
over a check, and carrying the Pertec under my arm back to my car. What
a difference from Microdata or Ultimate! But then I also remember "The
Computer Store" in Santa Monica, the "world's only computer store".

I don't, so clue me in if you would. What was sold in the world's only
computer store? Was the Pick OS loaded on anything? If not, what OS's
were? When did it exist?

http://www.mactech.com/articles/mact.../Apr86History/
This is a story by Dick Heiser, Founder, The Computer Store, opened in
July 1975.

The Computer Store sold, primarily, Altairs and their ilk, plus parts
and accessories, books, and enthusiasm. It's where I bought an apple.
Definitely no Pick. Actually I was buying time at pick & assoc right
about then.

The Pertec was much later. The connection was simply my experience of
walking in, paying, and walking out literally with a computer under your
arm. It was added into a Pick configuration, doubling the system power
with only a serial connection, and a single shopping experience.

~ ~ Bill

Quote:

Thanks. --dawn