Updating MV Family Tree

#21

dawn wrote:

Quote:

I am planning to make changes to the electronic version of the
MultiValue Family Tree poster in the coming year. The 2002 version of
the pdf is found at

http://www.tincat-group.com/mv/familytree.html

I received some information from Alan Pritchard that his publications
had a complete list of all implementations of Pick he 't have access to
copies right now. Does anyone have copies of the Pick Resources Guide
(1986) and Pick Resources Guide/International (1987 and 1990)? He said
the information was under the hardware sections. Thanks in advance for
any help in finding these.

He also wrote "There was at least one microfilm retrieval system
(Kodak, maybe) that used an embedded Pick system in it." Does anyone
recall that?

Thanks. --dawn

#22

dawn wrote:

Quote:

dawn wrote:

<snip>

Quote:

He also wrote "There was at least one microfilm retrieval system
(Kodak, maybe) that used an embedded Pick system in it." Does anyone
recall that?

Thanks. --dawn

Dawn,

I once salvaged data for a customer from a Kodak KAR 4000 system. KAR
4000 was an ADDS machine running Mentor and held a database providing an
index to documents stored on microfilm.

Hope this helps.

Steve Lancour

#23

Steve Lancour wrote:

Quote:

dawn wrote:
dawn wrote:

snip

He also wrote "There was at least one microfilm retrieval system
(Kodak, maybe) that used an embedded Pick system in it." Does anyone
recall that?

Thanks. --dawn

Dawn,

I once salvaged data for a customer from a Kodak KAR 4000 system. KAR
4000 was an ADDS machine running Mentor and held a database providing an
index to documents stored on microfilm.

Hope this helps.

Steve Lancour

Very cool. I think that means it is an application on ADDS Mentor
rather than a separate port. Although there are some great apps and a
better historian than I might be able to track a lot of apps down
sometime, I think this means that the Kodak implementation doesn't make
it to the poster. If anyone disagrees, let me know. Thanks a bunch!
--dawn

#24

dawn wrote:

Quote:

Steve Lancour wrote:

dawn wrote:

dawn wrote:

snip

He also wrote "There was at least one microfilm retrieval system
(Kodak, maybe) that used an embedded Pick system in it." Does anyone
recall that?

Thanks. --dawn

Dawn,

I once salvaged data for a customer from a Kodak KAR 4000 system. KAR
4000 was an ADDS machine running Mentor and held a database providing an
index to documents stored on microfilm.

Hope this helps.

Steve Lancour

Very cool. I think that means it is an application on ADDS Mentor
rather than a separate port. Although there are some great apps and a
better historian than I might be able to track a lot of apps down
sometime, I think this means that the Kodak implementation doesn't make
it to the poster. If anyone disagrees, let me know. Thanks a bunch!
--dawn

It was not a Kodak-specific port. MOE was well-hidden from the user but
it was definitely MOE.

#25

Steve Lancour wrote:

Quote:

dawn wrote:

Steve Lancour wrote:

dawn wrote:

dawn wrote:

snip

He also wrote "There was at least one microfilm retrieval system
(Kodak, maybe) that used an embedded Pick system in it." Does anyone
recall that?

Thanks. --dawn

Dawn,

I once salvaged data for a customer from a Kodak KAR 4000 system. KAR
4000 was an ADDS machine running Mentor and held a database providing an
index to documents stored on microfilm.

Hope this helps.

Steve Lancour

Very cool. I think that means it is an application on ADDS Mentor
rather than a separate port. Although there are some great apps and a
better historian than I might be able to track a lot of apps down
sometime, I think this means that the Kodak implementation doesn't make
it to the poster. If anyone disagrees, let me know. Thanks a bunch!
--dawn

It was not a Kodak-specific port. MOE was well-hidden from the user but
it was definitely MOE.

If you recall an approximate date, I can include it and other
applications in the varied timeline even if not in the poster. Thanks,
Steve. --dawn

#26

On 27 Nov 2005 11:20:33 -0800, "dawn" <dawnwolthuis (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:

dawn wrote:
I am planning to make changes to the electronic version of the
MultiValue Family Tree poster in the coming year. The 2002 version of
the pdf is found at

http://www.tincat-group.com/mv/familytree.html

I received some information from Alan Pritchard that his publications
had a complete list of all implementations of Pick he 't have access to
copies right now. Does anyone have copies of the Pick Resources Guide
(1986) and Pick Resources Guide/International (1987 and 1990)? He said
the information was under the hardware sections. Thanks in advance for
any help in finding these.

He also wrote "There was at least one microfilm retrieval system
(Kodak, maybe) that used an embedded Pick system in it." Does anyone
recall that?

T'was installed at Kodak in Melbourne mid '80's... Based on ADDS
Mentor - they were neighbours in Hauppauge (sp??), NY...

Quote:

Thanks. --dawn
Regards,

Bruce Nichol
Talon Computer Services
ALBURY NSW Australia

http://www.taloncs.com.au

If it ain't broke, fix it until it is....

#27

I had a friend for a while, Phil Kramer, who, I believe, worked for a
company called Scan Optics(?). I think they were aimed at medical imaging,
but they did a lot of testing with Zippy comics. I belive they were an OA
shop. Frosty, just before he came to work for you?

Mark Brown

"dawn" <dawnwolthuis (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:

He also wrote "There was at least one microfilm retrieval system
(Kodak, maybe) that used an embedded Pick system in it." Does anyone
recall that?

Thanks. --dawn

#28

Yes,

It was from Kodak and it used an ADDS machine.

Eugene
"dawn" <dawnwolthuis (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:

dawn wrote:
I am planning to make changes to the electronic version of the
MultiValue Family Tree poster in the coming year. The 2002 version of
the pdf is found at

http://www.tincat-group.com/mv/familytree.html

I received some information from Alan Pritchard that his publications
had a complete list of all implementations of Pick he 't have access to
copies right now. Does anyone have copies of the Pick Resources Guide
(1986) and Pick Resources Guide/International (1987 and 1990)? He said
the information was under the hardware sections. Thanks in advance for
any help in finding these.

He also wrote "There was at least one microfilm retrieval system
(Kodak, maybe) that used an embedded Pick system in it." Does anyone
recall that?

Thanks. --dawn

#29

dawn wrote:

Quote:

Steve Lancour wrote:

dawn wrote:

Steve Lancour wrote:

dawn wrote:

dawn wrote:

snip

He also wrote "There was at least one microfilm retrieval system
(Kodak, maybe) that used an embedded Pick system in it." Does anyone
recall that?

Thanks. --dawn

Dawn,

I once salvaged data for a customer from a Kodak KAR 4000 system. KAR
4000 was an ADDS machine running Mentor and held a database providing an
index to documents stored on microfilm.

Hope this helps.

Steve Lancour

Very cool. I think that means it is an application on ADDS Mentor
rather than a separate port. Although there are some great apps and a
better historian than I might be able to track a lot of apps down
sometime, I think this means that the Kodak implementation doesn't make
it to the poster. If anyone disagrees, let me know. Thanks a bunch!
--dawn

It was not a Kodak-specific port. MOE was well-hidden from the user but
it was definitely MOE.

If you recall an approximate date, I can include it and other
applications in the varied timeline even if not in the poster. Thanks,
Steve. --dawn

I worked on the customer's KAR 4000 in about 1996 and it was already
pretty old by then. A Google search for "KAR 4000" found this:

http://www.kodak.com/global/en/corp/...2687/2695/2702

Steve

#30

Steve Lancour wrote:

Quote:

dawn wrote:
Steve Lancour wrote:

dawn wrote:

Steve Lancour wrote:

dawn wrote:

dawn wrote:

snip

He also wrote "There was at least one microfilm retrieval system
(Kodak, maybe) that used an embedded Pick system in it." Does anyone
recall that?

Thanks. --dawn

Dawn,

I once salvaged data for a customer from a Kodak KAR 4000 system. KAR
4000 was an ADDS machine running Mentor and held a database providing an
index to documents stored on microfilm.

Hope this helps.

Steve Lancour

Very cool. I think that means it is an application on ADDS Mentor
rather than a separate port. Although there are some great apps and a
better historian than I might be able to track a lot of apps down
sometime, I think this means that the Kodak implementation doesn't make
it to the poster. If anyone disagrees, let me know. Thanks a bunch!
--dawn

It was not a Kodak-specific port. MOE was well-hidden from the user but
it was definitely MOE.

If you recall an approximate date, I can include it and other
applications in the varied timeline even if not in the poster. Thanks,
Steve. --dawn

I worked on the customer's KAR 4000 in about 1996 and it was already
pretty old by then. A Google search for "KAR 4000" found this:

http://www.kodak.com/global/en/corp/...2687/2695/2702

Good find, Steve. Thanks! --dawn

Quote:

Steve