Back on the air as of 18:15 PST, Dec 11.

Clifton Oliver wrote:
I get CDP whenever I want. I use
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.databases.pick

You should try it Clif. It really is a very nice interface. Try a
search. Maybe even have a look and a think about u2ug google group.
It's rarely down. You could even sign up and check out the post and
receive by email options - if you either can't or don't want to use the
google browser interface from the airport, internet kiosk, office,
client site, internet cafe, your Mum's, or wherever, 24/7/365.

Mike.

Mike Preece wrote:

yup the google interface is good - it is what i use, and a group for
the u2ug rather than a mailing list would be so much better - in my
opinion ...

Symeon wrote:
1. To be fair, Mike Preece already started one, a Google group called
"u2-users". Same name as email list, but completely independent.
Speaking only for myself, while I like Google's user interface, I don't
see the point of 2 forums. There's much more traffic on u2-users email
list than the Google group ( *cough* when up *cough* - actually this
is the only outage like this that I am aware of. To be fair.) If we
were starting from scratch, I'd vote for Mike's solution, but we're
not, so my loyalties remain with the email list.
Having ONE common place is paramount.


2. U2UG is smack dab in the middle of making some major back- &
frontend changes to the lists, the web-site, and the various U2UG
forums. It's a shame this outage occurred, so soon before the
mechanism behind it is to be changed.


3. The user interface (email &/or browser (notice the "&") ) must be -
and will be - separated out from the underlying function of managing
posts to threads and ongoing on-topic conversation. Google allows
both. Hey, we're a bunch of database geeks. We understand separating
data from interface(s). Nothing new here!
The idea is ONE repository, ONE backend & remain flexible about
different user interfaces. Presently, web-browsing & email are the two
popular ones.


4. Currently, U2UG has custodial care of the u2 lists, which Clif
Oliver started and then maintained for so many years.
Anyone can subscribe, even if not a U2UG member. (www.u2ug.org, "Email
Lists" on left menu)

The user interface is currently email (with browser-based search of
archives).
U2-users - on-topic. mostly tech, some marketing
U2-community - water cooler chat among friends
SBsolutions - System Builder
RBsolution - RedBack

There are other U2UG forums, & they are currently web-based, with email
notification if desired. Again, expect changes.


5. Please feel free to email me personally if you have strong opinions
or wishes. I'm on the board for another year. Or post here. Or to
u2-users list.


6. If you really care, u2ug elections are coming up. Nominations (&
volunteering) for the board are open until Jan 10. Email boar (AT) u2ug (DOT) org.


I will keep you appraised of upcoming improvements.


Chuck Stevenson
U2UG Board...

"Mike Preece" <michael (AT) preece (DOT) net> wrote

So is U2UG mailing lists, rarely down. God this thread is starting to sound
like a bunch of "those" people. Yeah, that's right, users!

LMAO

Give me break.