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Default sending text messages to mibile phones - 05-13-2005 , 08:05 AM






Hi,

I'm wondering if somebody could point me to a routine to send
textmessages from Universe on Unix to a mobile phone .
Preferbly a 'world-wide' solution as we have customers all over the
world.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Frans

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George
 
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Default Re: sending text messages to mibile phones - 05-13-2005 , 08:18 AM







Frans wrote:
Quote:
Hi,

I'm wondering if somebody could point me to a routine to send
textmessages from Universe on Unix to a mobile phone .
Preferbly a 'world-wide' solution as we have customers all over the
world.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Frans
Frans,


Most mobile phone providers allow emails to be sent to their
mobile phones. We send emails to the phones of our IT staff when a
drive is filling up, we detect a system crash, a program error is
detected,... We currently use sprint and the email address to the
respective phones is in the following format :
WWWXXXYYYY (AT) messaging (DOT) sprintpcs.com ( where WWWXXXYYYY is the phone
number of the mobile phone).

The phone number for each phone could be loaded into a record with the
user as the key.

The Unix sendmail routine is used to send the emails.

George



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Default sending text messages to mibile phones - 05-13-2005 , 08:47 AM



On 13 May 2005 06:18:17 -0700, "George" <zhammerle (AT) hubert (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
Frans wrote:
Hi,

I'm wondering if somebody could point me to a routine to send
textmessages from Universe on Unix to a mobile phone .
Preferbly a 'world-wide' solution as we have customers all over the
world.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Frans

Frans,


Most mobile phone providers allow emails to be sent to their
mobile phones. We send emails to the phones of our IT staff when a
drive is filling up, we detect a system crash, a program error is
detected,... We currently use sprint and the email address to the
respective phones is in the following format :
WWWXXXYYYY (AT) messaging (DOT) sprintpcs.com ( where WWWXXXYYYY is the phone
number of the mobile phone).

The phone number for each phone could be loaded into a record with the
user as the key.

The Unix sendmail routine is used to send the emails.

George
Hi George,

Good idea!

I got sendmail woking perfectly so that might be a solution.

Frans


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Tony Gravagno
 
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Default Re: sending text messages to mibile phones - 05-13-2005 , 07:04 PM



Just for reference, email to smart phones these days is not really the
same as SMS. You're going to quickly find that one size does not fit
all. I'd recommend you put up a web page for your customers that says
"if this solution does not work for your phone or network, please tell
us why". Not only is that good Customer Service but you'll find out
what the issues are pretty quick.

Here's a heads-up: Once you get started with SMS (Simple Messaging)
for a large user base, you'll probably find out about EMS (Extended),
so you may do well to look at both of them simultaneously.

There is a company called Simplewire that simplifies development and
deployment of these sorts of solutions.
See: http://www.15seconds.com/Issue/010327.htm for some basic info
that looks semi-unbiased but it's written by the President of the
company.
See: http://www.simplewire.com/support/fa...641327403.html for
info about why SMS is better than email for this sort of thing.
They have some other interesting FAQs and white papers that explain
why a universal solution is not as slam-dunk easy as sending an
e-mail, for both business and technical reasons.

If and when you find email inadequate, also Google around for things
like "Net::SMS" and "linuxsms", or "sms development" and related
keywords, and investigate other ways to do this. You can easily call
to Perl, VB, and other code outside of Universe if you do decide to
use third-party controls that handle this sort of thing for you.

HTH
Tony, Nebula R&D
Specializing in connecting MV software to ... anything
TG@ removethisNebula-RnD
..com

Frans <frans (AT) remove (DOT) this.utt-magne.com> wrote:

Quote:
On 13 May 2005 06:18:17 -0700, "George" <zhammerle (AT) hubert (DOT) com> wrote:


Frans wrote:
Hi,

I'm wondering if somebody could point me to a routine to send
textmessages from Universe on Unix to a mobile phone .
Preferbly a 'world-wide' solution as we have customers all over the
world.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Frans

Frans,


Most mobile phone providers allow emails to be sent to their
mobile phones. We send emails to the phones of our IT staff when a
drive is filling up, we detect a system crash, a program error is
detected,... We currently use sprint and the email address to the
respective phones is in the following format :
WWWXXXYYYY (AT) messaging (DOT) sprintpcs.com ( where WWWXXXYYYY is the phone
number of the mobile phone).

The phone number for each phone could be loaded into a record with the
user as the key.

The Unix sendmail routine is used to send the emails.

George

Hi George,

Good idea!

I got sendmail woking perfectly so that might be a solution.

Frans


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Frans
 
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Default sending text messages to mibile phones - 05-14-2005 , 06:38 AM



Thanks Tony,

great answer! .

In understand that the textsize is a mayour limitation for SMS. Now
since I lie in the EU I'm exposed to GSM and SMS myself but I'm
wondering what the 'standars' for mibiles in other parts of the world
are.


Frans


On Fri, 13 May 2005 17:04:15 -0700, Tony Gravagno
<g6q3x9lu53001 (AT) sneakemail (DOT) com.invalid> wrote:

Quote:
Just for reference, email to smart phones these days is not really the
same as SMS. You're going to quickly find that one size does not fit
all. I'd recommend you put up a web page for your customers that says
"if this solution does not work for your phone or network, please tell
us why". Not only is that good Customer Service but you'll find out
what the issues are pretty quick.

Here's a heads-up: Once you get started with SMS (Simple Messaging)
for a large user base, you'll probably find out about EMS (Extended),
so you may do well to look at both of them simultaneously.

There is a company called Simplewire that simplifies development and
deployment of these sorts of solutions.
See: http://www.15seconds.com/Issue/010327.htm for some basic info
that looks semi-unbiased but it's written by the President of the
company.
See: http://www.simplewire.com/support/fa...641327403.html for
info about why SMS is better than email for this sort of thing.
They have some other interesting FAQs and white papers that explain
why a universal solution is not as slam-dunk easy as sending an
e-mail, for both business and technical reasons.

If and when you find email inadequate, also Google around for things
like "Net::SMS" and "linuxsms", or "sms development" and related
keywords, and investigate other ways to do this. You can easily call
to Perl, VB, and other code outside of Universe if you do decide to
use third-party controls that handle this sort of thing for you.

HTH
Tony, Nebula R&D
Specializing in connecting MV software to ... anything
TG@ removethisNebula-RnD
.com

Frans <frans (AT) remove (DOT) this.utt-magne.com> wrote:

On 13 May 2005 06:18:17 -0700, "George" <zhammerle (AT) hubert (DOT) com> wrote:


Frans wrote:
Hi,

I'm wondering if somebody could point me to a routine to send
textmessages from Universe on Unix to a mobile phone .
Preferbly a 'world-wide' solution as we have customers all over the
world.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Frans

Frans,


Most mobile phone providers allow emails to be sent to their
mobile phones. We send emails to the phones of our IT staff when a
drive is filling up, we detect a system crash, a program error is
detected,... We currently use sprint and the email address to the
respective phones is in the following format :
WWWXXXYYYY (AT) messaging (DOT) sprintpcs.com ( where WWWXXXYYYY is the phone
number of the mobile phone).

The phone number for each phone could be loaded into a record with the
user as the key.

The Unix sendmail routine is used to send the emails.

George

Hi George,

Good idea!

I got sendmail woking perfectly so that might be a solution.

Frans


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David Morris
 
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Default Re: sending text messages to mibile phones - 05-14-2005 , 12:40 PM



Frans once wrote in <0ub981hbods6s6195rl8pupsg9ed1gbbdc (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>...
Quote:
On 13 May 2005 06:18:17 -0700, "George" <zhammerle (AT) hubert (DOT) com> wrote:


Frans wrote:
Hi,

I'm wondering if somebody could point me to a routine to send
textmessages from Universe on Unix to a mobile phone .
Preferbly a 'world-wide' solution as we have customers all over the
world.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Frans
Not directly, but we have a Multitech GSM modem fitted on one of our
systems - it just needs a SIM card. I grabbed a bit of software called
SMSTools - written by a German guy - that implements a polling daemon
which picks up messages from a queue and sends them to the GSM modem via
the serial port. We actually use it for network monitoring and alerts
via Nagios, but it's not beyond the wit of anyone smart to work out how
to get messages into the queue from most applications, especially in the
*nix world.
--
David Morris


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Excalibur
 
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Default Re: sending text messages to mibile phones - 05-14-2005 , 05:31 PM



Hi
Australia - a major Pick market - uses three methods.

City bound folks use gsm. My wifes phone roamed happily in Paris last year.
Travellers like me use CDMA which is the Telstra choice for long distance
country areas.
Real bush bashers - Land Rovers across the Great Sandy Desert, girls on
camels looking for the wilderness, mining engineers, and of course TV/Radio
journalists use Satellite phones.

Enjoy the ride to "standards"

Thanks for the tips Tony. Spot on as usual.

Peter McMurray

"Frans" <frans (AT) remove (DOT) this.utt-magne.com> wrote

Quote:
Thanks Tony,

great answer! .

In understand that the textsize is a mayour limitation for SMS. Now
since I lie in the EU I'm exposed to GSM and SMS myself but I'm
wondering what the 'standars' for mibiles in other parts of the world
are.


Frans




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Simon
 
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Default Re: sending text messages to mibile phones - 05-15-2005 , 05:25 PM




Frans wrote:
Quote:
Hi,

I'm wondering if somebody could point me to a routine to send
textmessages from Universe on Unix to a mobile phone .
Preferbly a 'world-wide' solution as we have customers all over the
world.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Frans
Hi Frans,
I use 'BLAT' - (freeware : just Google search for it), from Universe on
Windows - just shell out to the DOS prompt and off you go...., and I
think it's capable for Unix too.
Simon.



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John V
 
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Default Re: sending text messages to mibile phones - 05-18-2005 , 10:24 PM



Hi,
There are alot of companies that offer email to SMS services. This would
be your easiest bet assuming you can send an email from your mv environment
(or !shell out and use sendmail/BLAT/xyz)

This should work 'transparently' in the sense that your application should
not need to know in advance what sort of handset your recipients mobile will
be.

However, knowing what sort of handset the receiver has can allow you to do
some cool things. e.g. If you know the recipient has a Nokia handset then
you can send them things like VCAL (calendar entries) & VCARD (business
cards) directly.

Drop me line if you would like code or specifications.


John.

"David Morris" <david (AT) 127 (DOT) 0.0.1> wrote

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Frans once wrote in <0ub981hbods6s6195rl8pupsg9ed1gbbdc (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>...
On 13 May 2005 06:18:17 -0700, "George" <zhammerle (AT) hubert (DOT) com> wrote:


Frans wrote:
Hi,

I'm wondering if somebody could point me to a routine to send
textmessages from Universe on Unix to a mobile phone .
Preferbly a 'world-wide' solution as we have customers all over the
world.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Frans

Not directly, but we have a Multitech GSM modem fitted on one of our
systems - it just needs a SIM card. I grabbed a bit of software called
SMSTools - written by a German guy - that implements a polling daemon
which picks up messages from a queue and sends them to the GSM modem via
the serial port. We actually use it for network monitoring and alerts
via Nagios, but it's not beyond the wit of anyone smart to work out how
to get messages into the queue from most applications, especially in the
*nix world.
--
David Morris



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