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"Peter McMurray" <excalibur21 (AT) bigpond (DOT) com> wrote: ...it is extremely unlikely that RD a Microsoft partner would use something that vanished from the later release. Peter, you don't know RD like we do. This is very likely.The political, not technical Microsoft partnership is only for their PDP.NET product, lot of good that does. The relationship doesn't extend to D3, which has never been MS certified. T |
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Hopefully someone can help. I have loaded D3, successfully, and licensed it but when I reboot the system and try to start the D3 service, it stops immediately and MS returns an error that says: "RPC Locator has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience." I have checked the RPC Locator service and it says started. I have tried repeatedly to get D3 the run correctly. It seems to be on the latest version that this happens as I had everything working well with a previous release on W2K. I have also tried this on two separate systems, both with XP-Pro. I must be doing something wrong but I have spoken with RD support and they say that they have experienced this problem but do not have a recorded solution for it. Thanks for your time. Regards, Neil Neil Charrington C.A. Software Systems T: +44 1564 777011 F: +44 1564 777454 W: www.casoftware.co.uk |
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Hi Again I believe that we need more information urgently. In particular the version of D3 as this could affect all of us. |
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I am afraid that I still do not trust a third party to properly install XP as they usually leave that to the goofy kid on school break. |
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I am amazed that the RD/MS relationship does not include D3 which I have always found to be an excellent product. Peter McMurray |
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"Tony Gravagno" <g6q3x9lu53001 (AT) sneakemail (DOT) com.invalid> wrote in message news:sg61n1tmorju22u2l7co3l8q9c9ddj971o (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... "Peter McMurray" <excalibur21 (AT) bigpond (DOT) com> wrote: ...it is extremely unlikely that RD a Microsoft partner would use something that vanished from the later release. Peter, you don't know RD like we do. This is very likely.The political, not technical Microsoft partnership is only for their PDP.NET product, lot of good that does. The relationship doesn't extend to D3, which has never been MS certified. T |
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Hi Neil, This is like "teaching Grandma to suck eggs", but here goes. Is the D3VME service starting with system priveledges, or have you created an administrative user and running the service as that user. I have had a similar problem with the SQL debugger within Visual Studio, which was solved by creating the administrative user and starting the SQL service under those priveledges. Something to do with a couple of DLL files being installed when the computer was registered to another network. Regards Jon "Neil Charrington" <neil (AT) casoftware (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message news:672dnSfAIek9HfLeRVnyuw (AT) pipex (DOT) net... Hopefully someone can help. I have loaded D3, successfully, and licensed it but when I reboot the system and try to start the D3 service, it stops immediately and MS returns an error that says: "RPC Locator has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience." I have checked the RPC Locator service and it says started. I have tried repeatedly to get D3 the run correctly. It seems to be on the latest version that this happens as I had everything working well with a previous release on W2K. I have also tried this on two separate systems, both with XP-Pro. I must be doing something wrong but I have spoken with RD support and they say that they have experienced this problem but do not have a recorded solution for it. Thanks for your time. Regards, Neil Neil Charrington C.A. Software Systems T: +44 1564 777011 F: +44 1564 777454 W: www.casoftware.co.uk |
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"Peter McMurray" wrote: Hi Again I believe that we need more information urgently. In particular the version of D3 as this could affect all of us. I'll send Neil a nudge to check this thread. We have other business dealings so I'm interested in seeing him resolve this as well. I am afraid that I still do not trust a third party to properly install XP as they usually leave that to the goofy kid on school break. I dunno if they are working with OEM systems, I don't think so, but that's a good idea. He did say they had a prior release of D3 running, but he didn't say if it was on the same box. I am amazed that the RD/MS relationship does not include D3 which I have always found to be an excellent product. Peter McMurray Nevertheless, that is the case. I was employed at RD for many years, last position was DBMS Product Manager, and I know some of the issues in this area. I try to keep up with their current initiatives, including whatever aspects of their relationship with Microsoft that they make public, and to my knowledge there is no business link between D3 development and Microsoft. While my company is now a jBASE Distributor, my primary development environment is still D3. Our focus (I and those who provide services through Nebula R&D) is changing but I'll continue to support D3 for as long as it seems appropriate, technically and in a business sense. Yes, it is an excellent product, but there have been a lot of technical and business issues that stand in the way of our pursuing a future with it anymore. A lot of companies run with D3NT, including many of my clients here in CDP, but many large D3NT end-users have dropped it over the years too. That's mostly due to growing pains in the platform, not issues with D3 itself, if one can make such a distinction. From a business perspective I'm hoping that upcoming releases address the problems, and that RD can take some leadership to get new VARs and motivate existing VARs to sell more apps. In the mean time I've needed to make some major strategic changes here. C'est la vie. T "Tony Gravagno" <g6q3x9lu53001 (AT) sneakemail (DOT) com.invalid> wrote in message news:sg61n1tmorju22u2l7co3l8q9c9ddj971o (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... "Peter McMurray" <excalibur21 (AT) bigpond (DOT) com> wrote: ...it is extremely unlikely that RD a Microsoft partner would use something that vanished from the later release. Peter, you don't know RD like we do. This is very likely.The political, not technical Microsoft partnership is only for their PDP.NET product, lot of good that does. The relationship doesn't extend to D3, which has never been MS certified. T |
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Hi Tony, Sorry for the lack of response/appreciation for the replies to my original email, my news system seems to have given up the ghost and I have just reinstalled it. Further developments and expansion of the original mail: 1: I was using a D3 version 7.2.x on Win 2000 on my laptop and it worked fine. I then came to upgrade as I had to reload D3. RD said 7.2 was not a supported release as well as me being an undesirable (politically speaking) as I was developing software and they stopped their policy of free software for developers. 2: I was eventually given an evaluation copy of D3 (version 7.4.5), which was the version I have been trying to load unsuccessfully on WinXP-Pro. 3: I changed Win 2K to Win XP-Pro/SP2 for various internal reasons and loaded D3 - it came up with RPC Locator errors. I called RD support and Mark Morley spent some time with me trying to resolve the problem, to no avail. 4: I loaded a new system with a "virgin" XP-Pro with SP2 and then tried loading D3 again and I had the same problem RPC Locator error. 5: Mark then spent some more time with me trying to resolve this and came up with it being an authentication error on our Domain. I tried everything I could think of to resolve it and decided to ask the group for their input. That is where we were until this morning. 6: I have now loaded D3 on our 2003 Server and " hey presto" everything works (or is working so far). So I now have 4 weeks evaluation to get OSMOSiS updated on D3 - which does not present a problem. Thanks for everyone's input. I would also like to say that the support I have had from RD UK (Mark and Mandi in particular) has been superb, even if the support from those above has not. When are the people at the top of RD (including Mario and Keith - in the UK) going to learn that the more software is developed on their products (D3 included) then the more of their software will be sold - it's not rocket science. How much does it cost them to supply developers with a 5-User version of D3 free-of-charge? How much will they gain if products like ours are available on their platforms? Anyway, thanks again. Best regards, Neil. "Tony Gravagno" <g6q3x9lu53001 (AT) sneakemail (DOT) com.invalid> wrote in message news:f458n1po2vdc0iqhqu1q988c909sqdjgqr (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... "Peter McMurray" wrote: Hi Again I believe that we need more information urgently. In particular the version of D3 as this could affect all of us. I'll send Neil a nudge to check this thread. We have other business dealings so I'm interested in seeing him resolve this as well. I am afraid that I still do not trust a third party to properly install XP as they usually leave that to the goofy kid on school break. I dunno if they are working with OEM systems, I don't think so, but that's a good idea. He did say they had a prior release of D3 running, but he didn't say if it was on the same box. I am amazed that the RD/MS relationship does not include D3 which I have always found to be an excellent product. Peter McMurray Nevertheless, that is the case. I was employed at RD for many years, last position was DBMS Product Manager, and I know some of the issues in this area. I try to keep up with their current initiatives, including whatever aspects of their relationship with Microsoft that they make public, and to my knowledge there is no business link between D3 development and Microsoft. While my company is now a jBASE Distributor, my primary development environment is still D3. Our focus (I and those who provide services through Nebula R&D) is changing but I'll continue to support D3 for as long as it seems appropriate, technically and in a business sense. Yes, it is an excellent product, but there have been a lot of technical and business issues that stand in the way of our pursuing a future with it anymore. A lot of companies run with D3NT, including many of my clients here in CDP, but many large D3NT end-users have dropped it over the years too. That's mostly due to growing pains in the platform, not issues with D3 itself, if one can make such a distinction. From a business perspective I'm hoping that upcoming releases address the problems, and that RD can take some leadership to get new VARs and motivate existing VARs to sell more apps. In the mean time I've needed to make some major strategic changes here. C'est la vie. T "Tony Gravagno" <g6q3x9lu53001 (AT) sneakemail (DOT) com.invalid> wrote in message news:sg61n1tmorju22u2l7co3l8q9c9ddj971o (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... "Peter McMurray" <excalibur21 (AT) bigpond (DOT) com> wrote: ...it is extremely unlikely that RD a Microsoft partner would use something that vanished from the later release. Peter, you don't know RD like we do. This is very likely.The political, not technical Microsoft partnership is only for their PDP.NET product, lot of good that does. The relationship doesn't extend to D3, which has never been MS certified. T |
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Neil: I just installed a new Penguin server running Win2K3. I installed D3 v7.4.4 and I got all kinds of RPC errors in the application event logs. RDUS indicated there were some hardware issues with the SATA RAID controller, so I had to send back the Penguin and buy a Dell. Their PDP.NET product and D3 weren't working properly so I'll have to wait and see what happens with the new certified Dell server. Of course, one still has to worry about the gigabit NICs, as RDUS hasn't resolved that problem in several years. Best of luck. :-( Bill |
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