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Re: RPL books for learning -
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"murthi" <c_xyz_murthi (AT) seeing_xyz_green (DOT) net> wrote in message news:V8uLf.13374$Em2.95 (AT) trndny05 (DOT) .. I was waiting for *someone else* to point out that it's probably none of our business to comment on Rachael's management, linguistic, or other shortcomings. She asked a question in what she presumed would be a friendly climate. Obviously it was not. The level of reaction to her queries was just insensitive, to say the least. But think what it would have been had she posted to the Cod worshippers! Bobj She would have got a load of codswallop, of course !! So she does not speak (a presumption), or write good English...there are many such programmers who can quite competently maintain or build software applications (I've known several). Do you think she is not aware of her English skills? So her management is falling down on its job (another presumption)...how is that relevant? How can one presume it was "appropriate" or not for Realtime to contact her manager? She may have been the one assigned to contact them. And if she wants to screw up her system, again, i wouldn't second-guess her. Sure, don't reveal proprietary secrets or how to break into SYSPROG, but why the hectoring? Rachel, if you're still there, I personally feel bad about the tone of the replies. There was useful information there, but certainly not well presented. Chandru Murthi "Bruce A. Holt" <REMOVE-THISmvdbman (AT) REMOVE-THISyahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:_MkKf.34842$F_3.30035 (AT) newssvr29 (DOT) news.prodigy.net... "Dave Weaver" <weaver22 (AT) pacbell (DOT) net> wrote in message news:1140229521.450245.301180 (AT) g47g2000cwa (DOT) googlegroups.com... And improving spelling, grammar and writing skills appear to be needed as well. (I'll probably regret that previous sentence just as soon as I hit the button. But, at the time I felt it needed to be said.) I have to agree with Dave and I know he doesn't mean anything derogatory or insulting towards Rachel. It's just that any lack in these skills only multiplies the difficulty Rachel faces. It seems to me, though, that Rachel's challenge with spelling, grammar and writing could be due to English being a second language for her. I don't know that for a fact, but the results are going to be the same. What little documentation we have in our little corner of the IT world is written predominantly in English, so command of that language would shorten Rachel's learning curve. Just my own devalued 2¢ -Bruce |
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I was waiting for *someone else* to point out that it's probably none of our business to comment on Rachael's management, linguistic, or other shortcomings. She asked a question in what she presumed would be a friendly climate. Obviously it was not. The level of reaction to her queries was just insensitive, to say the least. |
anyone else's business? I am speaking only for myself, but my intent in
posting was strictly observational and if you look closely, you will see the
evidence of that intent. I also believe (and expressed it in my post) that
Tony offered tons of help but, due to her seeming lack of understanding,
Rachel was unable to utilize the help offered. Beside, this is a public
forum and we should all be able to express our opinions (which I did, which
I am doing and which you did too). As for *insensitivity*, as I expressed in
my *opinion*, Tony offered help not just once, not just twice but three
times and did it very patiently, again, this is just *my opinion*.
Additinally, I am bilingual and I know that you, Chandru, are also at least
bilingual (probably more). We both understand what happens when skills in a
particular language are lacking. So many things get miscommunicated and
misunderstood. I doubt Tony could have offered help in any better way, other
than discovering her native tongue and communicating with her on a common
basis...*if* he also had skills in that tongue.
Just my opinion, to which I am entitled. Please don't shoot me! *grins*
(I believe my 2¢ is rapidly devaluing!)
-Bruce
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(I believe my 2¢ is rapidly devaluing!) |
(I believe my 2¢ are rapidly devaluing!)
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--it happens to us all--
-Bruce
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If Rachael is talking about R83 rpl on reality based machines, it was also known as xproc (advance proc), and is really Proc with muscle(but not a lot). I am still developing code in it (ha ha), and it really is'nt nice at all, if there are no manuals etc etc.Normally the systems have had all comments taken out, so that they could fit on the machine, fit into a 32k record size limit etc etc. Rachael has left her email address, so you could always contact her on that |
communications interfaces. As I understand it she comes from a
relational background and just has some unlearning to do.
They'rerunning D3 with all current apps, written mostly in RPL except for
some BASIC stuff that I wrote. Matthew, 32k limits are a thing of the
distant past. RPL has been enhanced with 256 file buffers and other
restrictions have been removed. If you have such limitations, or even
want to convert your system to BASIC, drop me a note.
Tony
TG@ removethisNebula-RnD.com
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