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Default Response from mvCommunitymap (Repost from U2UG) - 03-17-2011 , 09:57 AM






First off we want to thank everyone that has visited, provided
feedback and have made contributions to mvCommunitymap.com. Secondly,
I apologize for the length of this post, but I do feel the need to
clarify some issues.

We did anticipate some skepticism from the mvCommunity and I apologize
for not responding to your posts yesterday.

There are two reasons why we haven't publicized everyone in our
database.
# 1, We have to respect the Users privacy and confidentiality, not
just end-users, but vendors as well. As a vendor, how often do you
advertise the tools that you use to run your business. We don't
unless we thought it would have a positive impact on sales. So for an
end-user how would marketing "We use MV" positively impact there
sales?

Secondly, which I thought might have been too obvious, is that we are
a business. mvCommunitymap does provide a free service to the entire
community, users and vendors. It does not however provide free
advertising, except to User Groups, they get their group profile
displayed at no charge. Why, because generally speaking a User Group
is giving back to the mvCommunity by providing networking
opportunities and operating at cost. Every one else will need to pay
for the advertising.

Since we are a business, yes, we hope to get some new business out of
this venture. Not by poaching, but by and through advertising. We
can say confidently that more companies have heard of mvCommunitymap
and TRI-SYS today than on Monday. Will it lead to more business? We
don't know, that's the gamble of advertising. But, while advertising
our business, we have been able to give something back to the
mvCommunity. Something that the mvCommunity can use to advertise
itself, in our opinion.

This is not a scheme to scam you out of your client lists. In fact,
for those of you that, understandably, don't want to release your
customer names, we offer you a way of contributing, maintaining the
anonymity of customers and getting some free advertising. If you want
to participate, supply us with a list of your clients, but ONLY
include your internal client number or some other code that can
uniquely identify them to YOU and their zip code. This way you are
not releasing any customer identifiable information to anyone. And, in
return, when anyone clicks on the map marker, we will display "This
location is verified by Your Vendor Name Here."

Please explain to me if we are missing how this would violate A) your
confidentiality with your customers and B) how we would be able to
poach from this type of list. We do however see a downside to this.
There will be an increased chance of duplication.

We are working on a routine that multiple vendors could run against
their list to produce a uniquely identifiable code, based on user name
and zip. The trick is how do we make it so that the code can't be
reversed engineered by us to reproduce the Customer name and zip. I'm
open to any ideas or suggestions.

We have been made aware, this morning, that some countries zip/postal
codes are a bit more accurate than the US and the location revealed is
too accurate. We are working to rectify this issue, but if anyone
else has concerns such as this, please let us know.

As we originally stated in our announcement, what really is going to
make this site powerful is the participation of the mvCommunity. We
are happy to work with you to address any concerns that you may have.
We know that this site can benefit the entire Global mvCommunity with
your help. The stronger this site is the more it will benefit us all.

A posting asked why should we be trusted. Well for most of you we
haven't earned that trust, so I'm not asking you to trust us, I'm just
asking you to participate in the process for now and we plan to earn
your trust as time goes by.

Again, thanks for your time and feedback.
Sincerely,

Sincerely,
Curt Stewart
mvCommunitymap.com
A world view of the MultiValue Community
(p) 262-432-3897
(c) 262-227-9619
www.mvCommunitymap.com
Mapping MultiValue Users Worldwide!
View my LinkedIn ® Profile

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Default Re: Response from mvCommunitymap (Repost from U2UG) - 03-19-2011 , 03:20 PM






On Mar 17, 11:57*am, oldpickyone <cstewa... (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote:
Quote:
First off we want to thank everyone that has visited, provided
feedback and have made contributions to mvCommunitymap.com. Secondly,
I apologize for the length of this post, but I do feel the need to
clarify some issues.

We did anticipate some skepticism from the mvCommunity and I apologize
for not responding to your posts yesterday.

There are two reasons why we haven't publicized everyone in our
database.
* * * * # 1, We have to respect the Users privacy and confidentiality, not
just end-users, but vendors as well. As a vendor, how often do you
advertise the tools that you use to run your business. *We don't
unless we thought it would have a positive impact on sales. *So for an
end-user how would marketing "We use MV" positively impact there
sales?

* * * * Secondly, which I thought might have been too obvious, isthat we are
a business. mvCommunitymap does provide a free service to the entire
community, users and vendors. *It does not however provide free
advertising, except to User Groups, they get their group profile
displayed at no charge. *Why, because generally speaking a User Group
is giving back to the mvCommunity by providing networking
opportunities and operating at cost. Every one else will need to pay
for the advertising.

Since we are a business, yes, we hope to get some new business out of
this venture. *Not by poaching, but by and through advertising. *We
can say confidently that more companies have heard of mvCommunitymap
and TRI-SYS today than on Monday. *Will it lead to more business? We
don't know, that's the gamble of advertising. *But, while advertising
our business, we have been able to give something back to the
mvCommunity. *Something that the mvCommunity can use to advertise
itself, in our opinion.

This is not a scheme to scam you out of your client lists. In fact,
for those of you that, understandably, don't want to release your
customer names, we offer you a way of contributing, maintaining the
anonymity of customers and getting some free advertising. If you want
to participate, supply us with a list of your clients, but ONLY
include your internal client number or some other code that can
uniquely identify them to YOU and their zip code. *This way you are
not releasing any customer identifiable information to anyone. And, in
return, when anyone clicks on the map marker, we will display "This
location is verified by Your Vendor Name Here."

Please explain to me if we are missing how this would violate A) your
confidentiality with your customers and B) how we would be able to
poach from this type of list. *We do however see a downside to this.
There will be an increased chance of duplication.

We are working on a routine that multiple vendors could run against
their list to produce a uniquely identifiable code, based on user name
and zip. The trick is how do we make it so that the code can't be
reversed engineered by us to reproduce the Customer name and zip. *I'm
open to any ideas or suggestions.

We have been made aware, this morning, that some countries zip/postal
codes are a bit more accurate than the US and the location revealed is
too accurate. *We are working to rectify this issue, but if anyone
else has concerns such as this, please let us know.

As we originally stated in our announcement, what really is going to
make this site powerful is the participation of the mvCommunity. *We
are happy to work with you to address any concerns that you may have.
We know that this site can benefit the entire Global mvCommunity with
your help. *The stronger this site is the more it will benefit us all.

A posting *asked why should we be trusted. *Well for most of you we
haven't earned that trust, so I'm not asking you to trust us, I'm just
asking you to participate in the process for now and we plan to earn
your trust as time goes by.

Again, thanks for your time and feedback.
Sincerely,

Sincerely,
Curt Stewart
mvCommunitymap.com
A world view of the MultiValue Community
(p) 262-432-3897
(c) 262-227-9619www.mvCommunitymap.com
Mapping MultiValue Users Worldwide!
* * View my LinkedIn ® Profile
Actually, the 12 digit code that is on the envelope identifies a
unique building or residence in the USA while the 9-digit zipcode
identifies the not only the block bat also the side of the block.

Henry

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