I have a customer who is using a very old machine running RedHat 4.2
and D3 ProPlus 7.1. Their hardware needs changing as I suspect there
is a motherboard fault. I would like to put them onto an IBM x226
server (I have a new one which has been in stock for years!) which can
run RedHat 9.
What I need to know is can I keep them on D3 ProPlus and therefore not
requiring a software upgrade? I don't want to open a big can of worms
by changing too much which will effect their application.
Would it be possible to run D3 ProPlus 7.3 (which looks to be the last
version) on RedHat 9?
Would it be possible to re-activate their 7.1 licenses on 7.3?
And if the two above are possible, where can I get the D3 ProPlus 7.3
install files from as they are no longer on TigerLogic's ftp site.

Matt, D3ProPlus is an obsolete product that was intended to help
AP/Pro users transition to D3 without worrying about the OS. ProPlus
is an OS/DBMS/Appliance and does not ride on another OS. It's
technically a distro of Linux (based on RedHat Linux) since the OS was
pre-configured to support nothing but D3, like it's AP/Pro
predecessor. Not long after the product was in the field, people were
asking for all kinds of features to make the environment more complex.
Essentially they were asking for D3 Linux, which like all other
platforms is the DBMS over an OS that anyone can get from other
sources. The original idea was to give people something simple and
limited but once people got familiar with Linux the whole concept was
a non-issue.

Therefore - if your client has a D3ProPlus CD, it should install
directly to hardware, just like Linux. If you don't have a CD, maybe
someone here can provide it - unfortunately I think I just tossed mine
a few weeks ago. If you have any desire to tweak the platform, you'll
need D3 Linux, and you'll need to contact TigerLogic (formerly Raining
Data, formerly Pick Systems) to see if there are any upgrade options
anymore, or if your client will now need to simply make a new
purchase.

HTH
Tony Gravagno
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d3matt wrote:

On Mar 3, 1:36*am, d3matt <d3data... (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote:
I really doubt that you are doing this customer any favours by keeping
them on an obsolete software platform, and selling them a "new" server
that was withdrawn from the market 3 years ago!!

I understand your desire to be able to offload some old (worthless)
stock, but I just don't see the how the "value" proposition stacks up
- no hardware warranty, no software support, NO WAY!!

Could I respectfully suggest that if you were open with your client,
you might be surprised to discover that they WERE willing to purchase
current generation hardware, so that they can call IBM support if they
do have a hardware failure, and if this means having to pay for a D3
upgrade to run on this platform AND be able to call for help, it
should be seen as a smart decision for a business critical system.

The alternative may be sheer panic in 12 months time when the x226
dies, and you can't find a piece of crappy old iron that will run
ProPlus. At the moment it sounds like you might have the "luxury" of
being able to plan/test migration to D3 and make sure there ARE no
problems .... the alternative to me just highlights one of the
problems that face our niche - and sadly, all to often this is driven
from a lack of understanding from the IT professional.

Let you client know the real score. Tell them your REAL
preference .... and if that is to stay on ProPlus, so be it, but at
least let the client know there are more widely supported alternatives
- their answer may surprise you, provided you give THEM all of the
facts!!

(well, that's it for MY March Rant ...)

On Mar 2, 6:14*pm, Ross Ferris <ro... (AT) stamina (DOT) com.au> wrote:
March? Isn't Australia in the southern hemisphere?

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Kevin Powick

On Mar 3, 12:02*pm, Kevin Powick <kpow... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
Sorry!

Ok, MY Hcram Rant

(Couldn't locate an upside-down character font to use for you - nice
Hockey result BTW :-)

Like Ross pointed out, you have a small window of opportunity to do
this right. ProPlus was really crippled, I don't think it could even
do a virtual save.

You're going to run into unexpected problems no matter what you do, so
you might as well go with a good, new linux box. You'll be a hero
when you're all done. The speed boost alone will make everyone happy.

Start by practicing moving the data and compiling the programs. If
you don't have source code, you might be able to move the compiled
items.

Good Luck

On Mar 2, 8:36*am, d3matt <d3data... (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote:
Matt,

Wow...so many challenges and so many OTHER sound alternatives. My
advice is to convince your client to leave the past and migrate to
Universe on the Intel/Windows platform. Life will be soooo much easier
for all of you.

Dave

On Mar 3, 9:19*am, Dave <dmorrison... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Oh, yes. All of your migration headaches will magically vanish by
going to Universe. Smooth sailing ahead. :/

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Kevin Powick

Dave,

You have obviously NEVER DONE A MIGRATION FROM PRO+ TO UNIVERSE!! (on
a limited budget and timeframe

The customer isn't going to want to foot the bill for such a
conversion (heck, apparently they don't even want hardware from this
century!!), and D3/Linux WILL be sooooooooo much easier,

Hmmm, actually you probably should take this up directly with
D3MATT .... I'm sure he will pay for your assistance with the
conversion :-)

YHBT.

--
frosty


"Kevin Powick" <kpowick (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

On Mar 3, 9:19 am, Dave <dmorrison... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Oh, yes. All of your migration headaches will magically vanish by
going to Universe. Smooth sailing ahead. :/

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Kevin Powick