YHBT.

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frosty

"Ross Ferris" <rossf (AT) stamina (DOT) com.au> wrote

On Mar 4, 9:47*am, "frosty" <fros... (AT) bogus (DOT) tld> wrote:

But the lure was sssssoooooooooo tasty!!

On Mar 3, 8:25*am, Tony Gravagno
<address.is.in.po... (AT) removethis (DOT) com.invalid> wrote:
As I said, I'm no Pick expert, but I would disagree with this. In a
previous job, I was the one who built this server the customer has in
question and I loaded and installed about 80 other identical servers.
All were D3 ProPlus 7.1 loaded onto RedHat 4.2. We used a genuine
RedHat 4.2 CD and installed and configured the o/s completely separate
from ProPlus.

This is why I was wondering if I could keep things simple and do the
same, but use the latest version of ProPlus, version 7.3, and use the
latest version of RedHat that this will work on.


If you don't mind me asking loads of questions, then maybe that will
give me some confidence to go down the D3 Linux route again.
My main problem here is the cost of upgrading the D3 licenses, cost of
entering into TigerLogic support (told is compulsory for 1st year at
least) and the hassle of having to go through a TigerLogic VAR to get
these upgrades.

It would be far easier all round if I could just reload what they had
onto new hardware or something not quite so new which worked!

On Mar 4, 8:20*am, matt <d3data... (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote:
Is it even possible to get D3 ProPlus 7.3? The TigerLogc web site
indicates that the product is dead. No new licenses are available.

I suspect the client is not on maintenance. Will TL even activate
what they have on a new server? I suspect that unless their policies
have changed, it is going to be an expensive experience to get this
activated.

Eugene

On Mar 2, 2:36*pm, d3matt <d3data... (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote:
Hi Matt,

Please give us a call to see how we can help you

Kind regards

On 4/03/2010 2:54 p.m., Mandi wrote:
Wow! Is this the first TL posting here since Tony "left"?

Brian

Yeah, it was; pretty decent troll, actually.
I'll give it ***.

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frosty

On 2 Mar, 14:36, d3matt <d3data... (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote:
Out of curiosity, I wondered if this could be built in a virtual
machine. I don't have a D3 proplus install disk, and I don't have a D3
linux disk. But I decided that if I could install one of the ancient
RedHat OS then installing D3 proplus might work.

Well, I couldn't find RH 4.2 but I found an iso of RH 5.2.

I have now installed that in a virtual machine using Sun Virtualbox -
and having got a networked virtual machine, it can go anywhere that
Sun/Oracle will take it.

Just an academic exercise but someone may be interested.

Wow, glad to see this forum is read my some familiar faces!
I'll pick this up again on Monday and follow up on these comments.

Just to quickly comment on some of the posts above.... Yes I agree,
customers should pay for their software. But if you have 10 year old
Windows 98 PC and you have paid for MS Office 2000 and that is all you
use and want to continue to use, then you can see why a customer
expects you to be able to load their existing software back onto a new
PC. Add to that the fact that they haven't paid anything for 6+
years as they didn't use support and didn't want any new features or
upgrades.
Obviously it is far more complicated than that, but all they want is
for me to fix a hardware fault and not change their software. I could
change the motherboard, but their problems are so random now it would
be so much easier to change all the hardware and start with something
that you know works. And of course, everyone wants the cheapest
solution, especially in this current financial climate.
Trouble is that I can't say "no, not possible" and leave them in the
lurch. I end up doing favours rather than earning a wage!

I like the virtual machine idea. Never played with that technology
before.

On Mar 5, 9:53*pm, matt <d3data... (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote:
<snip> * Add to that the fact that they haven't paid anything for 6+
Well, they rolled the dice and have been in front for 6 years - but
I'd suggest that NOW they DO need support, and the "new feature" they
want is to be able to run on new hardware.

If their hardware is as flakey as you indicate, I'd suggest they rush
it across to you as fast as possible in their Model T! (hmm, bad
analogy - that would be worth a bit today, whereas their current
hardware owes them nothing)

Anyway, I think this thread has had it's day (PLUS it is the weekend!!)