I will clarify my thoughts since this thread seems to have gone a bit
astray.

Yes, someone might be able to create a "MV Provider" for DBMail so
that all transactions are then stored in MV. From there people can
write MV BASIC plugins to do filtering, auto responding, and perhaps
create functions that are simply unavailable anywhere else.
Publishing code like this would add MV into the list of available
platforms, thus providing some positive marketing as well as yielding
a tool that might interest and inspire others in the Pick market.

That's all great stuff, and sort of what I was hoping to see from
Henry when I asked about vision. I suspect that is what was on his
mind, just not articulated as such. It may cost me a greek coffee to
find out but I think that would be a coin well spent.

What I got out of this was "hey, this is interesting" and when asked
"why" the response was akin to "I don't know but it's interesting"...
I'm reminded of the scene in 2001 A Space Odyssey where the cavemen
gather around the monolith, summoning courage to go near or even touch
the artifact - and they're later inspired to bash heads with bones. I
suppose it's a stretch to hope that one of these days we'll be the
ones building the monolith for others to gather in awe, but there's
some solace in the belief that as long as we're making tools for
bashing our own heads, we're making some kind of progress.

Major winky alert for those who didn't get it.

T

Tony, does your talent know no bounds? That's very good.

Tony,

Your script reads like a scene from "The Bald Soprano" by Eugène
Ionesco.

Excellent!

Robert

On May 2, 7:47*pm, "Jeff Caspari" <mu... (AT) idt (DOT) net> wrote:
Tony is good but, gathering from his comments, he should have
answered my question with silence.

Henry

On May 3, 3:57*pm, uiterwyk <rob... (AT) uiterwyk (DOT) net> wrote:
Robert:

Is it relevant that last Friday I was at the (Dutch) Queens Birthday
party?

Henry

On May 3, 3:13*pm, hbkeultjes <hbkeult... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Henry I'm reminded of a quote from my favorite philosopher:

All the best things in life are free
But you can give them to the birds and bees, I want Money!
Ooo ooo ooo ooo
That's what I want
ooo ooo oo ooo
That's what I need
ooo ooo ooo oo
That's what I want!

On 5/4/11 9:56 AM, wjhonson wrote:
Berry Gordy is your favorite philospher?!?

FYI, John Lennon did not write those lyrics.
But he did write, "Imagine no possessions;
I wonder if you can."

--
frosty

Henry, I am happy to write free and open source software if I am paid
to do so, or if there is another business model which can be applied
such that I don't suffer in the process.

This is the great common myth about FOSS, that it should be offered at
no cost (misunderstanding of 'free') to the masses by competent
programmers who don't need to pay bills.

All jokes aside, again, your post was 1/3 baked: You mention software
with no application and no business model.

BTW, DBMail wouldn't need to be ported to QM or any other MV DBMS.
With a platform-independent data provider it could work against any MV
DBMS. I use such tools for my own development, where a single library
via a config change can connect into DBMS platforms using UO.NET,
QMClient.NET, mv.NET, MVSP, or over a raw SSH connection. But I'm not
going to offer this for free or as open source.

And for the record, I actually do contribute to several FOSS projects
unrelated to MV, for my own benefit primarily but I derive pleasure
from the helping others as well. There's gotta be a reason for
someone to do this.

T

I did give you an opportunity to convey some vision. When you
declined, this thread had no other raison d'être but entertainment.

hbkeultjes wrote:
Act II is where you explain how Thunderbird is an email server or how
DBMail is an email client. I suspect this is when the program gets
all sci-fi and an alternate universe is used as a mechanism to further
the story to a point where this somehow makes any sense.

Time to quit, Henry. Let's have a good laugh and move on.

BTW, thanks for the positive comments in this thread. I must say, I'm
astounded that after almost 3 decades in this business, I dunno if I'm
pleased or not that the one attribute that people seem to appreciate
the most here is not my ability to connect MV to a coffee pot or
telephone, but an amateur sense of comedy, which is what I usually
write here but most people don't usually get it. (Oh yes, and run-on
sentences, I know you guys love those too...)

For a little more humor injected into a topic to which many people
here can relate, everyone is welcome to visit my most recent blog:
nospamNebula-RnD.com/blog/tech/mv/2011/05/back-in-my-day1.html

Regards,
T