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Default PICK 'runoff' word processing? - 01-05-2006 , 08:42 PM






We have a D3/AIX multivalue healthcare logistics system, originally
installed late 1980s. The system documentation was originally created
using a PICK proprietary word processing program called 'runoff' (so
I'm told). The documentation is extensive, but currently unusable,
since we have no one who knows 'runoff'. I'm looking for any
old-school pickkies who know what 'runoff' is, and (ideally) know of a
translation program that can create simple .TXT files from 'runoff'.
Any help or explanation is sincerely appreciated!


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Default Re: PICK 'runoff' word processing? - 01-06-2006 , 05:31 AM







mabosa wrote:
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We have a D3/AIX multivalue healthcare logistics system, originally
installed late 1980s. The system documentation was originally created
using a PICK proprietary word processing program called 'runoff' (so
I'm told). The documentation is extensive, but currently unusable,
since we have no one who knows 'runoff'. I'm looking for any
old-school pickkies who know what 'runoff' is, and (ideally) know of a
translation program that can create simple .TXT files from 'runoff'.
Any help or explanation is sincerely appreciated!
Matt,

I was there when Tom Ells wrote Runoff @ Microdata in 1975. I was an
early user of runoff the next year when I wrote a translation program
to send runoff documents into a Compugraphic typesetter to publish a
magazine. I do not have a current translator program, but it is not a
hard project. Send me more detail off line ( obsolete_john a@t yahoo
d.o.t com )

John Bohner



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Ross Ferris
 
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Default Re: PICK 'runoff' word processing? - 01-06-2006 , 05:49 AM



(runoff = word processor) usually equates to false - text processor
would be more appropriate.

Generating the documentation is fairly straight forward - the TCL
command line would typically be

RUNOFF <filename> <document root>

Where <filename> is the file where your documentation is stored, and
<document root> is the name of the first item in your tree (which may
chain to other documents, or simply include them)

If you have access to a terminal emulator like Accuterm, you can simply
add an "(n" option to activate nopaging and capture the output to a
file .... Then use yur favourite editor to tidy up.

Depending on your version of D3, you may also be able to simply setup a
shared printer that file, but the screen capture usually works AOK.


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Default Re: PICK 'runoff' word processing? - 01-06-2006 , 09:53 AM




mabosa wrote:
Quote:
We have a D3/AIX multivalue healthcare logistics system, originally
installed late 1980s. The system documentation was originally created
using a PICK proprietary word processing program called 'runoff' (so
I'm told). The documentation is extensive, but currently unusable,
since we have no one who knows 'runoff'. I'm looking for any
old-school pickkies who know what 'runoff' is, and (ideally) know of a
translation program that can create simple .TXT files from 'runoff'.
Any help or explanation is sincerely appreciated!
Matt,

Email me directly to provide details / scope.

John Bohner



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mg.ryder@gmail.com
 
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Default Re: PICK 'runoff' word processing? - 01-06-2006 , 10:54 AM



AFAIW, D3 still supports runoff - althougn I think the documentation is
sparse. You might find better documentation from Malcolm Bull or Jon
Sisk.
As I recall, the runoff processor has a simple syntax:
RUNOFF FILENAME ITEMNAME(S) LPTR
and lo and behold you have formatted text in the spooler to grab and do
what you will with.

hth
Mike


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Default Re: PICK 'runoff' word processing? - 01-06-2006 , 12:46 PM



If you assign the output to a hold file, it will be in the PEQS file. You
can then export it to "dos" and use word against the file.

Runoff has been around for many years as a way to create a primitive
wordprocessing document. It is not unique to Pick as I used a version of
runoff on a DEC VAX machine while in grad school to write my papers.

Eugene

P.S. Does Universe, Unidata, Reality have a version of runoff? I am
curious as all of my documentation is also in runoff.


"mabosa" <mattheb (AT) mail (DOT) amc.edu> wrote

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We have a D3/AIX multivalue healthcare logistics system, originally
installed late 1980s. The system documentation was originally created
using a PICK proprietary word processing program called 'runoff' (so
I'm told). The documentation is extensive, but currently unusable,
since we have no one who knows 'runoff'. I'm looking for any
old-school pickkies who know what 'runoff' is, and (ideally) know of a
translation program that can create simple .TXT files from 'runoff'.
Any help or explanation is sincerely appreciated!




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Rick Weiser
 
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Default Re: PICK 'runoff' word processing? - 01-06-2006 , 01:04 PM



I think Tony G. has a converter for runoff. If you search archives
here I think he posted something a few weeks ago about it.

Rick


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Rick Weiser
 
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Default Re: PICK 'runoff' word processing? - 01-06-2006 , 01:06 PM



Here is Tony's email. I'm sure he will talk about this with you:

gravagno at home.net

Rick


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Default Re: PICK 'runoff' word processing? - 01-06-2006 , 01:50 PM




mabosa wrote:
Quote:
We have a D3/AIX multivalue healthcare logistics system, originally
installed late 1980s. The system documentation was originally created
using a PICK proprietary word processing program called 'runoff' (so
I'm told). The documentation is extensive, but currently unusable,
since we have no one who knows 'runoff'. I'm looking for any
old-school pickkies who know what 'runoff' is, and (ideally) know of a
translation program that can create simple .TXT files from 'runoff'.
Any help or explanation is sincerely appreciated!

From my memory, a simple command at TCL will allow you to see the
items. Add (P) to direct the output to a printer.

:RUNOFF FILENAME ITEMNAME <ret>


Niall



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Tony Gravagno
 
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Default Re: PICK 'runoff' word processing? - 01-06-2006 , 01:56 PM



"Rick Weiser" wrote:
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I think Tony G. has a converter for runoff. If you search archives
here I think he posted something a few weeks ago about it.

Thanks Rick, Here's a copy so people don't need to hunt.

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