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Re: PICK Ports -
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Thanks to everyone who has piped up so far. If others recall any of the ports, even if it is already on the list, feel free to pipe up with dates, stories, details, etc. Thanks. *--dawn |
MicroVAX VMS operating system. That was perhaps one of the oddest
ones I've ever worked on, because as I understand it, there were only
a handful of actual installs in the world.
I worked on it from about say.... (scratches head, stares blankly out
window for 15 minutes)... 1989 to 1991 ? ish ?
At any rate I would not recommend to anyone the task of spending an
entire weekend upgrading VMS and then upgrading the Ultimate layer on
top of it. Luckily I only had to do that once, but hey I learned
about two dozen obscure commands I'm never going to need again! Woo
hooo!
Does VMS actually run anywhere in the world anymore? Indonesia?
Botswana? Where do old operating systems go to die?
Will Johnson
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On Sep 21, 3:10*pm, dawn <dawnwolth... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Thanks to everyone who has piped up so far. If others recall any of the ports, even if it is already on the list, feel free to pipe up with dates, stories, details, etc. Thanks. *--dawn Peep. *I recall working on Ultimate's implementation on top of the MicroVAX VMS operating system. *That was perhaps one of the oddest ones I've ever worked on, because as I understand it, there were only a handful of actual installs in the world. I worked on it from about say.... (scratches head, stares blankly out window for 15 minutes)... 1989 to 1991 ? *ish ? At any rate I would not recommend to anyone the task of spending an entire weekend upgrading VMS and then upgrading the Ultimate layer on top of it. *Luckily I only had to do that once, but hey I learned about two dozen obscure commands I'm never going to need again! Woo hooo! Does VMS actually run anywhere in the world anymore? *Indonesia? Botswana? *Where do old operating systems go to die? Will Johnson |
I really appreciate all the efforts made to keep the history of Pick,
uh, excuse me, Multivalue alive. I have Dawn's original poster and
look forward to another coming out. A lot of the newer folks are into
the latest technology and don't know the history, and when you say
frame fault or GFE, they look at you with a totally blank expression.
I'm all for progress and using new and better ways of doing things,
but, as the old saying goes, if we don't remember history, we are
doomed to repeat it. Does that mean 16K of core memory (shudder) is
coming back?
Charlie Noah
The views and opinions expressed herein are my own (Charlie Noah) and
do not necessarily reflect the views, positions or policies of any of
my former, current or future employers, employees, clients, friends,
enemies or anyone else who might take exception to them.
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On Sep 21, 3:10*pm, dawn <dawnwolth... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Thanks to everyone who has piped up so far. If others recall any of the ports, even if it is already on the list, feel free to pipe up with dates, stories, details, etc. Thanks. *--dawn Peep. *I recall working on Ultimate's implementation on top of the MicroVAX VMS operating system. *That was perhaps one of the oddest ones I've ever worked on, because as I understand it, there were only a handful of actual installs in the world. I worked on it from about say.... (scratches head, stares blankly out window for 15 minutes)... 1989 to 1991 ? *ish ? At any rate I would not recommend to anyone the task of spending an entire weekend upgrading VMS and then upgrading the Ultimate layer on top of it. * |
info, Will.
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Luckily I only had to do that once, but hey I learned about two dozen obscure commands I'm never going to need again! Woo hooo! Does VMS actually run anywhere in the world anymore? *Indonesia? Botswana? *Where do old operating systems go to die? Will Johnson |
even Digital Unix is rare by now, I suspect. There might even be
someone nursing along a Primos system, although that is more of a long
shot. As for where they go when they die, I figure that since it is so
difficult to actually fully remove any previously production product
like these, surely they end up in heaven. cheers! --dawn
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On Sep 22, 7:47*am, wjhonson <wjhon... (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote: On Sep 21, 3:10*pm, dawn <dawnwolth... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Thanks to everyone who has piped up so far. If others recall any of the ports, even if it is already on the list, feel free to pipe up with dates, stories, details, etc. Thanks. *--dawn Peep. *I recall working on Ultimate's implementation on top of the MicroVAX VMS operating system. *That was perhaps one of the oddest ones I've ever worked on, because as I understand it, there were only a handful of actual installs in the world. I worked on it from about say.... (scratches head, stares blankly out window for 15 minutes)... 1989 to 1991 ? *ish ? At any rate I would not recommend to anyone the task of spending an entire weekend upgrading VMS and then upgrading the Ultimate layer on top of it. *Luckily I only had to do that once, but hey I learned about two dozen obscure commands I'm never going to need again! Woo hooo! Does VMS actually run anywhere in the world anymore? *Indonesia? Botswana? *Where do old operating systems go to die? Will Johnson Hi All, I really appreciate all the efforts made to keep the history of Pick, uh, excuse me, Multivalue alive. I have Dawn's original poster and look forward to another coming out. |
before. I'm sure you have some. smiles. --dawn
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A lot of the newer folks are into the latest technology and don't know the history, and when you say frame fault or GFE, they look at you with a totally blank expression. I'm all for progress and using new and better ways of doing things, but, as the old saying goes, if we don't remember history, we are doomed to repeat it. Does that mean 16K of core memory (shudder) is coming back? Charlie Noah The views and opinions expressed herein are my own (Charlie Noah) and do not necessarily reflect the views, positions or policies of any of my former, current or future employers, employees, clients, friends, enemies or anyone else who might take exception to them. |
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From Newsgroup: comp.databases.pick Hi Dawn, As we discussed at the Spectrum Conference, it would be nice to move QM out of the obscurity of the "See also" box. We are a serious player in the multivalue market. At Spectrum, we were displaying a sign saying "Over 100 installations in the last 100 days". This trend has continued and now at day 264 of the year we can claim 281 commercially licensed installations this year. Now that is good news indeed. |
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On Sep 22, 8:58*am, Charlie Noah <cwn... (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote: On Sep 22, 7:47*am, wjhonson <wjhon... (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote: On Sep 21, 3:10*pm, dawn <dawnwolth... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Thanks to everyone who has piped up so far. If others recall any of the ports, even if it is already on the list, feel free to pipe up with dates, stories, details, etc. Thanks. *--dawn Peep. *I recall working on Ultimate's implementation on top of the MicroVAX VMS operating system. *That was perhaps one of the oddest ones I've ever worked on, because as I understand it, there were only a handful of actual installs in the world. I worked on it from about say.... (scratches head, stares blankly out window for 15 minutes)... 1989 to 1991 ? *ish ? At any rate I would not recommend to anyone the task of spending an entire weekend upgrading VMS and then upgrading the Ultimate layer on top of it. *Luckily I only had to do that once, but hey I learned about two dozen obscure commands I'm never going to need again! Woo hooo! Does VMS actually run anywhere in the world anymore? *Indonesia? Botswana? *Where do old operating systems go to die? Will Johnson Hi All, I really appreciate all the efforts made to keep the history of Pick, uh, excuse me, Multivalue alive. I have Dawn's original poster and look forward to another coming out. Thanks, Charlie. Now tell me a story, even if one you have told before. I'm sure you have some. *smiles. *--dawn A lot of the newer folks are into the latest technology and don't know the history, and when you say frame fault or GFE, they look at you with a totally blank expression. I'm all for progress and using new and better ways of doing things, but, as the old saying goes, if we don't remember history, we are doomed to repeat it. Does that mean 16K of core memory (shudder) is coming back? Charlie Noah The views and opinions expressed herein are my own (Charlie Noah) and do not necessarily reflect the views, positions or policies of any of my former, current or future employers, employees, clients, friends, enemies or anyone else who might take exception to them. |
One comes to mind. In 1984 or thereabouts I worked on a MDCS Sequel
(Reality). I wanted to be able to turn the user's break key on and off
programmatically. Nowadays that's easy, but back then it wasn't. A
customer engineer told me he knew which OS object frame controlled the
break key, and if we found the right entry point, we could create a
user exit verb to do it. One of my coworkers was in the office, and
seeing what was about to happen, removed herself as far from the
potential train wreck as possible. We experimented a few minutes with
no results, then the whole system hung. We ended up having to reboot,
and when we did, there were GFEs everywhere. It was as though someone
had dragged a sharp knife blade across the disk platters. The MIS
Director (we called them that in those days) was a very religious man,
but he came by my door and had a few well chosen expletives for me. We
had a huge mess to clean up, and I think we ended up doing a restore
from the night before. The customer engineer disappeared quickly, and
wouldn't come back for months. Ah, those were the days!
Best,
Charlie
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