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Tony Gravagno
 
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Default Re: Pick based ERP systems - 10-23-2006 , 03:15 PM






Quote:
johnmarshall wrote:
Just curious - out of all the ERP packages out there, are there any
largish ones that are Pick based?

Tony Gravagno wrote:
In short, yes.
"Marik" wrote:
Quote:
After answering "YES" to the question, you really didn't provide any
answers.
I know a couple companies that sell high-end packages that have read
this thread and have not responded. That's marketing in the Pick
world for you. If vendors are going to hide themselves then they're
doomed to die with all the rest of them, so why should I give names
and try to keep them in business? For anyone else, no one is paying
me on either side to research vendors or to provide leads. I don't
have time for free matchmaking anymore.

T


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Ross Ferris
 
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Default Re: Pick based ERP systems - 10-23-2006 , 04:05 PM






Thanks for the thought Bob!

Now that I'm "back on deck", I responded directly to John. Our R5
product MIGHT fit the bill (of materials?), but as Dawn's post
suggests, "ERP" means different things to different people, though I
believe that John's requirements are more "classical" in approach (ie:
manufacturing/distribution)

Our software solutions are used by companies of all sizes, across an
EXTREMELY broad range of industry sectors (Ladies Fashion Retail
through to Ship Building & Repair, manufacturing everything from
underground minining equipment through to selling office products - and
then we have the "esoteric" one-off developments, like bloodstock
management systems)

Our clients range in size from the "traditional" family-run small
businesses through to publicly listed multi-nationals (and also
"family-run" multi-nationals!), with our largest client responsible for
around $3bn in annual retail sales.

We have "bumped into" high-end products like SAP - and won!, but we
have also had clients migrate from R5 to SAP, typically as part of
global system consolidation. We are actively trying to move ourselves
UP the food chain, and Visage obviously plays a significant part in
this effort.

At the same time we remain focused on our roots, and the traditional
heartland of "pick".

However, every prospect brings their own dynamic - if we think we may
offer a good fit, great - if not, then let the client know, and move
on.

Whilst this "honesty" is something we all should do (in the solution
sales arena), the number of people that comment that they find this
honesty "refreshing" is alarming! It has also proven to be a great long
term sales strategy - in this last 12 months we were approached by
someone for the 3rd time (previously said "no" and pointed them in the
right direction) and we finally said "YES, we can do that" - they are
now a client/business partner.

Ross Ferris
Stamina Software
Visage > Better by Design!


Marik wrote:
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I believe that the system sold by Stamina (Ross Ferris) might qualify
and IES from Infolab.cu in South Africa would also qualify. I would
state however that neither would be in the scale of SAP.
Bob Marik



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ddspell-m3
 
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Default Re: Pick based ERP systems - 10-23-2006 , 11:11 PM



We use Millennium III (M3 for short) from Rover Data Systems
(http://www.roverdata.com/) out of Tustin, CA. It was written to be
portable to any MVDB, but they sell it on Raining Data's D3, either
Linux or Windows. It has been around for 15 years and started as a
character based system which still works.

Modules include: A/R, A/P, G/L, Production, Purchasing, Inventory
Control, MRP, Sales & Marketing, EIS, Workflow, and it supports bar
coding.

It utilizes a custom GUI client and features some rapid development
tools, such as a graphical screen designer. Programs are event driven
and structured. Source code provided for the M3 application, but not
for the ACE engine that drives the screens/reports.

Reports can be downloaded as text, or imported directly into
Word/Excel, or emailed, or can be generated as a PDF in addition to
printing. M3 also allows for background execution of processes and
reports.

We have a 50 user implementation running on a Dell PowerEdge 1400 and
RedHat Linux.

The company was named after the founders, Ron Vogel and Vern Jorgenson.
Prior to founding Rover Data, they worked on Manfact II from
Madic-Compufact.


Regards,
Danny

johnmarshall (AT) xtra (DOT) co.nz wrote:
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Just curious - out of all the ERP packages out there, are there any
largish ones that are Pick based?

John


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jkcullum
 
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Default Re: Pick based ERP systems - 10-25-2006 , 08:54 AM



johnmarshall (AT) xtra (DOT) co.nz wrote:
Quote:
Just curious - out of all the ERP packages out there, are there any
largish ones that are Pick based?

John
John,

Activant offers Prelude (used to be Prelude Inc), which was originally
written in Pick,
but is now Unidata/SB+.

Read about it here:
http://www.activant.com/products/activant-prelude/

-Jim



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pickit
 
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Default Re: Pick based ERP systems - 10-26-2006 , 08:23 AM



Jim,
Activant (Previously Triad) also offers a Pick alternative with their
Ultimate software package.
Although the package is based on the old SHIMS software (for hardware
stores), UItimate is designed for automotive (parts) warehouse
distributors and chain stores.

It's a complete package (a/r, a/p, inventory, etc..) but really is
focused on the automotive market.

We've been using it since 1994, and Activant still actively develops
and supports it.

jkcullum wrote:
Quote:
johnmarshall (AT) xtra (DOT) co.nz wrote:
Just curious - out of all the ERP packages out there, are there any
largish ones that are Pick based?

John

John,

Activant offers Prelude (used to be Prelude Inc), which was originally
written in Pick,
but is now Unidata/SB+.

Read about it here:
http://www.activant.com/products/activant-prelude/

-Jim


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john@mrpsystems.co.uk
 
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Default Re: Pick based ERP systems - 10-30-2006 , 04:56 AM



There is an MRP/ERP pacakge in UK from MRP Systems.

This has all the fundamentals of a good MRP pacakge

Stock Control
BOM
Order Processing
Sales Processing
Process Control
Machine Shop
Job Costing
WIP

runs in many UK clients from 10 users to over 200 users


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bob marik
 
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Default Re: Pick based ERP systems - 10-30-2006 , 09:37 PM




pickit wrote:
Quote:
Jim,
Activant (Previously Triad) also offers a Pick alternative with their
Ultimate software package.
Although the package is based on the old SHIMS software (for hardware
stores), UItimate is designed for automotive (parts) warehouse
distributors and chain stores.

It's a complete package (a/r, a/p, inventory, etc..) but really is
focused on the automotive market.

We've been using it since 1994, and Activant still actively develops
and supports it.

jkcullum wrote:
johnmarshall (AT) xtra (DOT) co.nz wrote:
Just curious - out of all the ERP packages out there, are there any
largish ones that are Pick based?

John

John,

Activant offers Prelude (used to be Prelude Inc), which was originally
written in Pick,
but is now Unidata/SB+.

Read about it here:
http://www.activant.com/products/activant-prelude/

-Jim
Interesting. If my information is correct, Intuit Eclipse (mentioned
earlier in this thread) is also based on the SHIMS software.



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Ed Sheehan
 
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Default Re: Pick based ERP systems - 10-31-2006 , 08:14 AM



Intuit Eclipse was initially written by two guys in a garage. I was there
long enough to have heard about any link to SHIMS or any other package. But
it was designed from the ground up by utilizing experts in the PHCP
distribution business, so I doubt that it evolved that way. Possibly someone
at Eclipse left and created SHIMS?

Ed

"bob marik" <rmarik (AT) mcbaincamera (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
pickit wrote:
Jim,
Activant (Previously Triad) also offers a Pick alternative with their
Ultimate software package.
Although the package is based on the old SHIMS software (for hardware
stores), UItimate is designed for automotive (parts) warehouse
distributors and chain stores.

It's a complete package (a/r, a/p, inventory, etc..) but really is
focused on the automotive market.

We've been using it since 1994, and Activant still actively develops
and supports it.

jkcullum wrote:
johnmarshall (AT) xtra (DOT) co.nz wrote:
Just curious - out of all the ERP packages out there, are there any
largish ones that are Pick based?

John

John,

Activant offers Prelude (used to be Prelude Inc), which was originally
written in Pick,
but is now Unidata/SB+.

Read about it here:
http://www.activant.com/products/activant-prelude/

-Jim

Interesting. If my information is correct, Intuit Eclipse (mentioned
earlier in this thread) is also based on the SHIMS software.




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frosty
 
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Default Artisan code (was: Pick based ERP systems) - 10-31-2006 , 03:05 PM



Brings to mind this exchange from cdt:

Quote:
"David Cressey" <dcressey (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:51G1h.5560$ee4.5310 (AT) trndny06 (DOT) ..
I honestly think that this phenomenon, and others like it, keep
occuring because most people learn programming before they learn
data management. Perhaps in some future generation, people will
learn the fundamentals of data before they learn how to write code.

Roy Hann wrote:
I don't see that happening in my lifetime. I expect to be bogged
down in what I call "artisan code" for the rest of my life. (Artisan code
is code written by happy energetic amateurs operating on intuition and
folklore.)
--
frosty

Ed Sheehan wrote:
Quote:
Intuit Eclipse was initially written by two guys in a garage. I was
there long enough to have heard about any link to SHIMS or any other
package. But it was designed from the ground up by utilizing experts
in the PHCP distribution business, so I doubt that it evolved that
way. Possibly someone at Eclipse left and created SHIMS?

Ed

"bob marik" <rmarik (AT) mcbaincamera (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:1162265846.379363.72380 (AT) i42g2000cwa (DOT) googlegroups.com...

pickit wrote:
Jim,
Activant (Previously Triad) also offers a Pick alternative with
their Ultimate software package.
Although the package is based on the old SHIMS software (for
hardware stores), UItimate is designed for automotive (parts)
warehouse distributors and chain stores.

It's a complete package (a/r, a/p, inventory, etc..) but really is
focused on the automotive market.

We've been using it since 1994, and Activant still actively develops
and supports it.

jkcullum wrote:
johnmarshall (AT) xtra (DOT) co.nz wrote:
Just curious - out of all the ERP packages out there, are there
any largish ones that are Pick based?

John

John,

Activant offers Prelude (used to be Prelude Inc), which was
originally written in Pick,
but is now Unidata/SB+.

Read about it here:
http://www.activant.com/products/activant-prelude/

-Jim

Interesting. If my information is correct, Intuit Eclipse (mentioned
earlier in this thread) is also based on the SHIMS software.



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