We are going to develop our Rich clients (GUI Apps) with .NET. The
problem is that we don´t know what product is the best. We are
considering mv.NET (Blue Finity) and Pick Data Provider (Raining Data)
but we don't have experience with these tools.
The number of users of the application is 100 and we have to analyze
the cost of the licenses (How many licenses?). The system is D3NT 7.2.0
(Windows 2000 Server)
Anyone have experience with mv.NET or Pick Data Provider?

Regards,

Marcos Alonso Vega

Hola Marcos:
Yo he tenido una duda parecida. Al final me he inclinado por mv.net. La
razón principal ha sido soporte. Aquí Dyssa pasa de PDP y si tienes
que buscar el soporte en RD USA no lo tengo demasiado claro. Te
quedaría la opción de Manolo Beltran, te lo puedo localizar si
quieres, desde Valencia. Realmente fue el que creo PDP, pero su
conocimiento de D3 es bajo, trabaja sobre todo con Unidata.

Lo que yo hago es trabajar a través de Tony Gravagno. El tiene mucha
experiencia en todo lo que tiene relación con .net y d3. El soporte me
lo da directamente él. Realmente estoy empezando con mv.net y con
..net. He hecho mucho con VB, VBA y ASP. Mi idea es poder dar el soporte
de mv.net yo directamente.

Si estás interesado en hablar conmigo, mándame un mail desde los
foros de Raining Data (usuario jra) o preguntale mi teléfono a Jaime
de Dyssa o en Elinfor en Oviedo.

Yo estoy en Bilbao.

Un saludo

joseba real de asua

Do you have to stay on D3? mv.NET works with QM which would massively
reduce your costs.

Martin Phillips, Ladybridge Systems.

I was impressed by mv.net from FusionWare.

douglas (AT) pickteam (DOT) com wrote:
I probably shouldn't say this, but what the hell? I wouldn't touch a
Fusionware product, because I'd be too worried that they won't be around
to support it. They've been teetering on the brink for far too long.

I apologise for the inevitable offense, but I would feel remiss if I
didn't offer these words of advice.

Luke

Hola Joseba

No he podido enviarte un e-mail desde el foro de Raining Data, ya que
aunque estoy registrado, no me permite ver tu e-mail ni enviarte nada.
Estaría muy interesado en ponerme en contacto contigo. Nosotros
estamos en Gijón y quizás alguna vez coincidimos en Dyssa ya que
llevamos muchos años en el mundo Pick. En principio tambien había
pensado en que mv.NET tenía "mejor pinta", pero necesitaba que alguien
me lo confirmase o me contase sus experiencias.

Como no estoy seguro de que el e-mail que aparece en Google Grupos sea
el correcto, no me importa darte el mío y así me pondría en contacto
contigo.

Saludos y gracias por contestar,

Marcos Alonso Vega

Mi e-mail :
alonvega arroba hotmail punto com



jra ha escrito:

Hola Joseba

No he podido enviarte un e-mail desde el foro de Raining Data, ya que
aunque estoy registrado, no me permite ver tu e-mail ni enviarte nada.
Estaría muy interesado en ponerme en contacto contigo. Nosotros
estamos en Gijón y quizás alguna vez coincidimos en Dyssa ya que
llevamos muchos años en el mundo Pick. En principio tambien había
pensado en que mv.NET tenía "mejor pinta", pero necesitaba que alguien
me lo confirmase o me contase sus experiencias.

Como no estoy seguro de que el e-mail que aparece en Google Grupos sea
el correcto, no me importa darte el mío y así me pondría en contacto
contigo.

Saludos y gracias por contestar,

Marcos Alonso Vega

Mi e-mail :
alonvega arroba hotmail punto com



jra ha escrito:

Luke Webber wrote:
the UK with offices in Portland Oregon in the USA. FusionWare may be a
reseller but the "real beef" if BlueFinity.

Ron White

--
Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service
------->>>>>>http://www.NewsDemon.com<<<<<<------
Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access

"Luke Webber" <luke (AT) webber (DOT) com.au> wrote

Isn't mv.NET from Bluefinity, not Fusionware?

We are presently using an evaluation version of mv.NET and find it to
operate as advertised. We haven't moved over to the licensed product
yet, because our project is late getting off the ground.

A few thoughts:

1) We considered RD's product, but decided against it because we felt
their "heart" was not really into it. On the other hand, BlueFinity is a
smaller company, but seems to have their "heart' in their product. The
company is staking themselves on .NET and mv.NET. They seen to have the
personnel to develop it. They also seem to be advancing it along as
Microsoft advances .NET itself. That's a good sign. We feel comfortable
with their vision.

2) I have e-mailed them with support questions a number of times, and
they have answered them. Sometimes it has taken them a bit of time (and
nagging), but they have eventually come through. (For me, in the US, I
also have to consider that their research staff is in the UK, so there
is a time gap.)

3) Their "Get Started" manual is very good. They have a "How do I do
...." section which really gets you started quickly - things like how to
read a record, write a record, do a select, etc. So you can get up and
running fairly quickly with rudimentary operations.

4) Their "Reference Manual" needs improvement (but I believe they have
told me that they are working on it). It's important they do so, since
not all the commands are as intuitive as you might think. For instance,
I couldn't figure out how to use their DCOUNT command - didn't know how
to tell it that the delimiter I wanted it to count was a multivalue
mark. It turns out they **assume** you are counting multivalue marks -
not an assumption I would have made. Had there been documentation and an
example I think I would have figured that out.

5) I do have confidence in their desire to improve the product. I asked
them about stipulating a column name (rather than a column position)
when extracting data from a DataReader. They told me it can't be done
now, but that it would be in the next release. So they are open to
suggestions and improvements.

All in all, I think it is a good product. BlueFinity has scheduled some
demos here in the US in the next few months, so I would suggest anyone
considering it to see a demo. But seeing that Joseba answered you in
Spanish, I assume you are in a Spanish speaking country. Maybe you can
contact BlueFinity and they can do something for you.

Hope this helps.

Sholom


alonvega (AT) hotmail (DOT) com wrote: