Where would one go to talk about launching a WEB App that needs a
multivalue back end?
Any experiences out there to share on the best mv platform to use?
Is there an old thread someone could point me to?
I have heard that OpenQM is a plausible solution. Anyone vouch for this
idea?
Any information would be appreciated.

On 1 Jun 2006 20:17:24 -0700, "Pickles" <johnrowell (AT) worldnet (DOT) att.net>
wrote:

If only 'cos Coyote comes bundled with "commercial" OpenQM...

Best? Dunno... Cheapest? Most likely. Uses 3 licence-seats,
though.


Bruce Nichol
Talon Computer Services
ALBURY NSW Australia

http://www.taloncs.com.au

If it ain't broke, fix it until it is....

If you want someone to host a MV web app, then try EasyCo - www.easyco.com

Cheers,

Brian Speirs

Pickles wrote:

Hi.

You don't say where in the world you are. However you might wish to take
a look at UniVision.

http://www.edp.co.uk/solutions/sol_univision.html

It is a very capable MVDBMS which has the connectivity you need for
connecting to the web. The company (EDP Plc) is also an ISP so can
provide web-hosting for you.

Hope this helps.

John

Pickles wrote:

Hi John - Next question is what type of web app - if it is asp/.net
then uniobjects fits in nicely and so a u2 db would be great. I am sure
Tony will talkup the wonders of mv.net as well - so you really have a
plethora of choice ...

My personal experiance of web aps with mv backends is with u2, and
there are a lot of tools that work very well.

Rgds
Symeon.

John Bend wrote:

If you go for OpenQM, you have several choices re the web components.
Coyote comes bundled for free. DesignBais now supports QM. FreedomBase
has supported QM for a very long time.

Martin Phillips, Ladybridge Systems.

Symeon, you're right that I'd mention mv.NET but in looking for the
right solution for the problem, like you, I'd ask for more info about
the kind of app, the audience, and many other questions. I might also
recommend DesignBais, which BTW, I can help with:
http:// removethisNebula-RnD.com/news/pr-060522-designbais.htm

I think the question is a very good one - where is the best place to
host MV apps which are internet-enabled? Hardly any IIS hosts allow
anything more than "components", certainly not a full DBMS like QM or
D3 or jBASE. Full virtual server Windows hosts are very expensive. A
host like EasyCo is ideal to host a DBMS, webserver, and Linux-based
connectivity. If you want a .NET solution you can use Mono at EasyCo,
or a multi-homed topology may be in order: you will need to host your
connectivity with one IIS host and proxy DBMS requests back to EasyCo,
or wherever your DBMS is hosted. Don't cringe too quickly, a lot of
sites you use on a daily basis are based on multi-server server farms,
inter-connected extranets, and pages generated via Web Services which
aggregate content from multiple sources.

About which DBMS? I'd say use whichever one you want because your
chances of finding a place to host an MV DBMS are about equal no
matter which one you choose.

As always the real answer is to start with a definition of the real
problems and that will help point to the best answers:
- Who is your target audience?
- What web development products seem best suited to this audience?
- What tools are you comfortable with? (OS, DBMS, web dev)
- How much can you afford?
- Is this a charity site? Personal? For profit?
- Do you expect your final product to fund the infrastructure or are
you looking for everything for free because you don't really expect
the site to make you any money?
- What sort of traffic do you expect?

I know that's probably too much info but frequently around here people
ask questions where the answer to the question isn't really the
solution to the problem they're trying to solve.

I'll be happy to discuss your needs and then we can present a more
focused set of questions to this forum if you wish.

HTH
Tony
TG@ removethisNebula-RnD.com


"Symeon" <symeonb (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Pickles wrote:
Wait, I know the answer to this one; I saw it on
another group:

"Anybody who suggests solutions without knowing the
requirements is a crank." =`;^>

--
frosty

"Pickles" <johnrowell (AT) worldnet (DOT) att.net> wrote

Here.

Virtually all.

Things change. I suggest you post your specific requirements. You will be
able to get all the help you need.

Yes.

Back to you.

Hi Tony, Symeon.

Yes, pretty much everything you say is true Tony. Then again there are
those of us who have (ahem) a lot of experience in the multivalue world?

:-)

I did not promote UniVision and EDP Plc as strongly as they deserve. I
am a techie, not a sales person and my enthusiasm for the product comes
from working with it rather than anything else.

EDP Plc are a hosting ISP and also maintain the UniVision database. How
many companies fit that profile?

Like jBase UniVision can accurately emulate a number of popular
multivalue databases.

It already has .net and Java tools. I know because my dissertation used
the Java library. I had to write one for D3.

UniVision is supported by Web publishing tools. It makes the job easier
but you will have to contact EDP Plc sales for further info.

Finally EDP Plc have a GUI Business Intelligence tool (myViewpoint)
which will enhance ANY multivalue application and will soon work over
Internet networks.

It all adds up to some damned fine arguments for using UniVision if your
locale and application suite. Like I say, though I work for the company
(EDP Plc own the company that employs me) my opinion comes from working
with the product.

HTH.

John


Tony Gravagno wrote: